probably going to buy this:Zimmer wrote:
Not pointless at all. It does speed up saturation of creatine in the muscles, it just isn't necessary.wah1188 wrote:
I've heard take creatine in 6-8 week cycles with one week off not too sure why. Loading is pretty pointless I feel just take a small amount everyday make sure to drink enough water too.Sturgeon wrote:
I'd probably go for casein at night on both days and whey on the morning of a day after workout as you'll probably need that extra boost of readily available protein when you wake up.
Your body grows used to Creatine after about 8 weeks and stops responding to it. To prevent that you need to do it in cycles to get the full effect from it. Same with pre-workout supplements and the sort.
yeah i do whey, vitamins and fish oil too.Jaekus wrote:
From my own personal experience I noticed a boost with creatine by around the third day from when I started taking it. I don't take it any more though, just whey, multivitamin and fish oil.
Speaking just from my experience. Creatine only produced temporary gains in both size and strength. They used to tell us to take it with HG carbs to help shuttle it into your system. It could have simply been an up sell, because they also sold versions of creatine that you mixed with a hg powder to make a sweet drink. However, I later learned that drinking it with fruit juice did the same thing.HaiBai wrote:
probably going to buy this:Zimmer wrote:
Not pointless at all. It does speed up saturation of creatine in the muscles, it just isn't necessary.wah1188 wrote:
I've heard take creatine in 6-8 week cycles with one week off not too sure why. Loading is pretty pointless I feel just take a small amount everyday make sure to drink enough water too.
Your body grows used to Creatine after about 8 weeks and stops responding to it. To prevent that you need to do it in cycles to get the full effect from it. Same with pre-workout supplements and the sort.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/crea.html
i don't see any point in loading or anything, so i think i'll just take 5 grams everyday. but, i haven't been able to find much information on cycling, or taking a break from it. it's not that i don't believe you or anything, i would just like to read up on it. do you have a link with a guide about this?
I also started in september at 60kg, but i had no idea what i was doing. But right now i weigh 65-66 so you beat me 3kgJebus wrote:
Eh, I weigh about 72-73 now, was 65 in september.Kampframmer wrote:
oic
How much did you gain over how long?
That's what I have. Got about a 3/4s of a tub unused.HaiBai wrote:
probably going to buy this:Zimmer wrote:
Not pointless at all. It does speed up saturation of creatine in the muscles, it just isn't necessary.wah1188 wrote:
I've heard take creatine in 6-8 week cycles with one week off not too sure why. Loading is pretty pointless I feel just take a small amount everyday make sure to drink enough water too.
Your body grows used to Creatine after about 8 weeks and stops responding to it. To prevent that you need to do it in cycles to get the full effect from it. Same with pre-workout supplements and the sort.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/crea.html
i don't see any point in loading or anything, so i think i'll just take 5 grams everyday. but, i haven't been able to find much information on cycling, or taking a break from it. it's not that i don't believe you or anything, i would just like to read up on it. do you have a link with a guide about this?
This is what i hate about explaining things about fitness. If i try to explain shit to people i always get the idea that they dont take me seriously because of my size. If a huge guy would tell someone not to squat and deadlift and just bench 2 days a week for 2 hours they would probably follow that advice a lot sooner than mine.Zimmer wrote:
@ wah - You xcan still be big and be doing it wrong. Also, 4 times/5 times a week is not too much if you've reached that level. If I drop down to 2 days my muscles don't get stronger and bigger. Added to the fact that I'm sure when he says "hitting it hard" he means more than an hour, which is bad and wrong by every single workout/exercise regime out there.
It's all relative man.Kampframmer wrote:
This is what i hate about explaining things about fitness. If i try to explain shit to people i always get the idea that they dont take me seriously because of my size. If a huge guy would tell someone not to squat and deadlift and just bench 2 days a week for 2 hours they would probably follow that advice a lot sooner than mine.Zimmer wrote:
@ wah - You xcan still be big and be doing it wrong. Also, 4 times/5 times a week is not too much if you've reached that level. If I drop down to 2 days my muscles don't get stronger and bigger. Added to the fact that I'm sure when he says "hitting it hard" he means more than an hour, which is bad and wrong by every single workout/exercise regime out there.
yeah, but it creates a lot of bullshit to fly around just because a few guys have good genetics and can get big on a shit program.Kmar wrote:
It's all relative man.Kampframmer wrote:
This is what i hate about explaining things about fitness. If i try to explain shit to people i always get the idea that they dont take me seriously because of my size. If a huge guy would tell someone not to squat and deadlift and just bench 2 days a week for 2 hours they would probably follow that advice a lot sooner than mine.Zimmer wrote:
@ wah - You xcan still be big and be doing it wrong. Also, 4 times/5 times a week is not too much if you've reached that level. If I drop down to 2 days my muscles don't get stronger and bigger. Added to the fact that I'm sure when he says "hitting it hard" he means more than an hour, which is bad and wrong by every single workout/exercise regime out there.
alright, so i found these two links with information about cycling:Zimmer wrote:
That's what I have. Got about a 3/4s of a tub unused.HaiBai wrote:
probably going to buy this:Zimmer wrote:
Not pointless at all. It does speed up saturation of creatine in the muscles, it just isn't necessary.
Your body grows used to Creatine after about 8 weeks and stops responding to it. To prevent that you need to do it in cycles to get the full effect from it. Same with pre-workout supplements and the sort.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/crea.html
i don't see any point in loading or anything, so i think i'll just take 5 grams everyday. but, i haven't been able to find much information on cycling, or taking a break from it. it's not that i don't believe you or anything, i would just like to read up on it. do you have a link with a guide about this?
Look back a page and I've linked to two creatine "about" pages.
I'm not completely sure, I never did.[-DER-]Omega wrote:
side question - is it normal to feel a lot, if not the most soreness in the adductors (muscles around the groin) after the first week of doing squats or might I be failing in my form somewhere?
I would agree with this but i'm interested to know what kind of foot stance you're using? Narrow stance? Wide stance?PrivateVendetta wrote:
I'm not completely sure, I never did.[-DER-]Omega wrote:
side question - is it normal to feel a lot, if not the most soreness in the adductors (muscles around the groin) after the first week of doing squats or might I be failing in my form somewhere?
But it might just be because those muscles are comparatively weak compared to your main squat muscles.
I was working out all summer here. Some days 34 degrees C with 80% humidity. It was kinda fucked, glad it's cooled down a bit.Jebus wrote:
Quite hot today, really sweat a lot.
Good luck man!SonderKommando wrote:
I've been cleared by the doc to start squatting\DLing and stuff again.. Feelsgoodman.
baggs wrote:
I would agree with this but i'm interested to know what kind of foot stance you're using? Narrow stance? Wide stance?PrivateVendetta wrote:
I'm not completely sure, I never did.[-DER-]Omega wrote:
side question - is it normal to feel a lot, if not the most soreness in the adductors (muscles around the groin) after the first week of doing squats or might I be failing in my form somewhere?
But it might just be because those muscles are comparatively weak compared to your main squat muscles.
My stance is heels shoulder width, feet out about 30° and I squat a little deeper below knee level as recommended by Starting Strength. I'm on week 2 of 5x5 and my muscles are probably still adjusting to the load, hence the soreness. No pain no gain eh.Jaekus wrote:
According to Starting Strength you are meant to spread your knees wide during a squat and feel it in the groin muscles of the inner thigh, so this leads one to think your form could be correct as a result. Can't say for sure without seeing how your form is.
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Prison squat?ghettoperson wrote:
Fucksakes, the gym was closed tonight because of the bank holiday. I guess that's Monday off as well. I'm going to do pushups and then try find something heavy to hang off the ends of a skipole to squat with.