Modern Islam is a blight on humanity

2011-04-05 07:48:11

#201

UnkleRukus: That Guy; +236|5319|Massachusetts, USA

lowing wrote:
UnkleRukus wrote:
lowing wrote:
So, it was the Taliban, or Iraqi insurgents that rioted over the cartoons, right?
So when someone burns the US flag and people get up in arms about it, whats so different?

The US flag is a symbol to us, in the same sense that Muhammad is a symbol to the Islamic world.
I don't see anyone in the states in violent rioting and killing people over a flag burning.

Here's one, you need to look.

Also it shouldn't matter, both are symbols, both get desecrated. Both instances are unacceptable.

Edit: It doesn't need to be in the ME for it to incite a riot lowing.

Last edited by UnkleRukus (2011-04-05 07:49:08)

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2011-04-05 07:52:03

#202

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

UnkleRukus wrote:
lowing wrote:
UnkleRukus wrote:

So when someone burns the US flag and people get up in arms about it, whats so different?

The US flag is a symbol to us, in the same sense that Muhammad is a symbol to the Islamic world.
I don't see anyone in the states in violent rioting and killing people over a flag burning.
Here's one, you need to look.

Also it shouldn't matter, both are symbols, both get desecrated. Both instances are unacceptable.

Edit: It doesn't need to be in the ME for it to incite a riot lowing.

I would argue anyone willing to get upset over the desecration of a symbol has the problem, not the desecrator.

If a symbol is important enough to you to make you attack someone, you probably have mental problems -- whether you're religious or not.

2011-04-05 08:13:20

#203

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6753

Turquoise wrote:
Jay wrote:
And you got butthurt when I called you fascist in the past?

Yeah, that was an overreaction on my part. Sorry about that.

I don't know. I just find it hard to sympathize with cultures radically different from my own. Whatever happens over in the Middle East is really inconsequential to my life beyond affecting the price of gas and a few public debts here and there.

I guess it just makes me glad I live here and not over in that mess.

But then again, what would be the point of sympathizing with them anyway? If our roles were reversed, it's not like they'd care about bombing the shit out of us either.

It's just a dog eat dog world, so you might as well enjoy the decadence partially afforded to us by all the messy shit we do overseas.

retarded attitude. losing all integrity here...

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2011-04-05 08:14:33

#204

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6958|Canberra, AUS

What happened to you Turq? You used to be cool and moderate. Now you're displaying some really weird misanthropic tendencies every now and then.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-04-05 08:25:45

#205

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

Spark wrote:
What happened to you Turq? You used to be cool and moderate. Now you're displaying some really weird misanthropic tendencies every now and then.

I appreciate that, I think.... but seriously... I'm not misanthropic. I just accept the fact that I have no power to change foreign policy. It's fun to discuss, but at the end of the day, whatever happens in a place like Libya really doesn't affect me.

I don't see that as "retarded". I see it as true.

2011-04-05 08:28:19

#206

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6753

and the overall effect of every american citizen taking that stance is...

some world police you are, turq

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2011-04-05 08:32:00

#207

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

Uzique wrote:
and the overall effect of every american citizen taking that stance is...

some world police you are, turq

lol... did you really expect any different?

Any nation with our level of power would do the same if not worse. Hell, we still look like Boy Scouts compared to what the Soviets often did.

Again, you can't blame me anymore than you can blame human nature. That's why "fighting the good fight" seems so silly.

Just enjoy what you have, do what you can to acquire more, and be happy you don't live in a crappy place like Afghanistan.

2011-04-05 08:35:37

#208

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6780

*trashcanistan

2011-04-05 08:37:21

#209

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5542|foggy bottom

Turquoise wrote:
Uzique wrote:
and the overall effect of every american citizen taking that stance is...

some world police you are, turq
lol... did you really expect any different?

Any nation with our level of power would do the same if not worse. Hell, we still look like Boy Scouts compared to what the Soviets often did.

Again, you can't blame me anymore than you can blame human nature. That's why "fighting the good fight" seems so silly.

Just enjoy what you have, do what you can to acquire more, and be happy you don't live in a crappy place like Afghanistan.

name a country the soviet union invaded that was not within its geopolitical sphere of influence or immediate geographic vicinity.

Tu Stultus Es

2011-04-05 08:40:43

#210

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

eleven bravo wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Uzique wrote:
and the overall effect of every american citizen taking that stance is...

some world police you are, turq
lol... did you really expect any different?

Any nation with our level of power would do the same if not worse. Hell, we still look like Boy Scouts compared to what the Soviets often did.

Again, you can't blame me anymore than you can blame human nature. That's why "fighting the good fight" seems so silly.

Just enjoy what you have, do what you can to acquire more, and be happy you don't live in a crappy place like Afghanistan.
name a country the soviet union invaded that was not within its geopolitical sphere of influence or immediate geographic vicinity.

Well, one thing they often did that we sometimes do is influence foreign governments through rebel groups.

They capitalized on rebellions in places like Cuba, for example. They were kind of similar to us in that they often got support in far away places via a shared ideology. They also influenced a lot of South America while we did the same through things like arms trade.

Don't get me wrong, we're similar in a lot of respects.

2011-04-05 08:41:29

#211

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5542|foggy bottom

thanks for the history lesson. you cold have just said you cant think of a single country the ussr invaded.

Tu Stultus Es

2011-04-05 08:42:25

#212

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

eleven bravo wrote:
thanks for the history lesson. you cold have just said you cant think of a single country the ussr invaded.

Always a pleasure, eleven.

2011-04-05 08:44:01

#213

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5542|foggy bottom

idiots like to smile a lot

Tu Stultus Es

2011-04-05 08:45:11

#214

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

Life is too short to not be happy.

2011-04-05 08:48:15

#215

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6282|Vortex Ring State

above 2 posts are off topic

*gets banned for backseat moderating*

no but seriously, USSR didn't stage any serious invasion operations like we did in vietnam or korea. When we started loosing control with the "influence" ops, we sent the military in on those 2 countries.

Whether the USSR had the capability or not is debatable, but the fact is that they only used military forces in neighboring countries, which would be akin to us rolling tanks into mexico or something.

Last edited by Trotskygrad (2011-04-05 08:49:57)

2011-04-05 08:49:49

#216

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5542|foggy bottom

Trotskygrad wrote:
above 2 posts are off topic

*gets banned for backseat moderating*

no but seriously, USSR didn't stage any serious invasion operations like we did in vietnam or korea.

Whether they had the capability or not is debatable, but the fact is that they only used military forces in neighboring countries, which would be akin to us rolling tanks into mexico or something.

that was the point I was making. turq tries so hard to present himself as knowledgeable

Tu Stultus Es

2011-04-05 08:51:51

#217

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

eleven bravo wrote:
Trotskygrad wrote:
above 2 posts are off topic

*gets banned for backseat moderating*

no but seriously, USSR didn't stage any serious invasion operations like we did in vietnam or korea.

Whether they had the capability or not is debatable, but the fact is that they only used military forces in neighboring countries, which would be akin to us rolling tanks into mexico or something.
that was the point I was making. turq tries so hard to present himself as knowledgeable

I guess that's still better than spending most of the time trolling...

2011-04-05 08:52:39

#218

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5542|foggy bottom

dot dot dot

Tu Stultus Es

2011-04-05 09:00:15

#219

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6934|USA

UnkleRukus wrote:
lowing wrote:
UnkleRukus wrote:
So when someone burns the US flag and people get up in arms about it, whats so different?

The US flag is a symbol to us, in the same sense that Muhammad is a symbol to the Islamic world.
I don't see anyone in the states in violent rioting and killing people over a flag burning.
Here's one, you need to look.

Also it shouldn't matter, both are symbols, both get desecrated. Both instances are unacceptable.

Edit: It doesn't need to be in the ME for it to incite a riot lowing.

That was a race riot, obviously, if you read the article. Also it pales in comparison to the riots over cartoons. The irony being, the cartoons depicted Islam as violent and the the outrage over depicted as violent was punctuated by nothing but violence.

I won't even get into the fact that flag burnings in the ME does not incite murder and violent protests in the states. ( like I said)

anyway, feel free to get back to the point that you don't think it was moderates rioting.

Last edited by lowing (2011-04-05 09:30:35)

2011-04-05 09:07:23

#220

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5641|London, England

Spark wrote:
What happened to you Turq? You used to be cool and moderate. Now you're displaying some really weird misanthropic tendencies every now and then.

He's been a neo-con since at least the day I arrived here.

He was kind of all over the place from day to day but that was always his compass bearing.

Look up the history of neo-conservatism. It's probably different from what you believe it to be at least slightly.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-04-05 09:09:39

#221

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5542|foggy bottom

turq is notoriously wishy washy. he takes no poisition.

Tu Stultus Es

2011-04-05 09:13:33

#222

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

DST -- where posters discuss each other almost as much as they discuss issues.

Anyway.... I thought I already said that I prefer we stay out of most conflicts. I'm not sure how that makes me a neocon.

All I'm saying is that I honestly don't care what happens in wherever the conflict occurs. A lot of people like to pretend they care, but I don't bother with that.

2011-04-05 09:15:31

#223

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6934|USA

Turquoise wrote:
DST -- where posters discuss each other almost as much as they discuss issues.

Anyway.... I thought I already said that I prefer we stay out of most conflicts. I'm not sure how that makes me a neocon.

All I'm saying is that I honestly don't care what happens in wherever the conflict occurs. A lot of people like to pretend they care, but I don't bother with that.

lol, yer not just now noticing that are you?

2011-04-05 09:16:32

#224

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6688|North Carolina

lowing wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
DST -- where posters discuss each other almost as much as they discuss issues.

Anyway.... I thought I already said that I prefer we stay out of most conflicts. I'm not sure how that makes me a neocon.

All I'm saying is that I honestly don't care what happens in wherever the conflict occurs. A lot of people like to pretend they care, but I don't bother with that.
lol, yer not just now noticing that are you?

Yeah... I know how they jump on you as well. I guess it's in their nature.

2011-04-05 09:19:07

#225

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5641|London, England

Turquoise wrote:
lowing wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
DST -- where posters discuss each other almost as much as they discuss issues.

Anyway.... I thought I already said that I prefer we stay out of most conflicts. I'm not sure how that makes me a neocon.

All I'm saying is that I honestly don't care what happens in wherever the conflict occurs. A lot of people like to pretend they care, but I don't bother with that.
lol, yer not just now noticing that are you?
Yeah... I know how they jump on you as well. I guess it's in their nature.

what i said wasnt meant as an insult. Just a statement of my observation. Spark seemed shocked.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

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