It's not just the US, it's the world. What is a work ethic anyway, breaking your balls to make someone else achieve a bigger profit margin?lowing wrote:
There is no shortage of people in the US with a complete lack of work ethic. It costs the company money which is trickled down to all of us as a burden to carry.SenorToenails wrote:
The thing I always wonder about people who do believe that is...where is their self respect and sense of pride?lowing wrote:
Since you are not posting anything constructive, I will ask.
Do you feel it is the company's job to cater to your health needs and pay for you not to be at work? Or maybe that is something that should be someone else's responsibility, like, I dunno, YOURS?
And by 'that', I mean " feel it is the company's job to cater to your health needs and pay for you not to be at work"
I think in this case, it means actually doing the job you're paid to do.jord wrote:
It's not just the US, it's the world. What is a work ethic anyway, breaking your balls to make someone else achieve a bigger profit margin?lowing wrote:
There is no shortage of people in the US with a complete lack of work ethic. It costs the company money which is trickled down to all of us as a burden to carry.SenorToenails wrote:
The thing I always wonder about people who do believe that is...where is their self respect and sense of pride?
And by 'that', I mean " feel it is the company's job to cater to your health needs and pay for you not to be at work"
No silly, that's slavery.SenorToenails wrote:
I think in this case, it means actually doing the job you're paid to do.jord wrote:
It's not just the US, it's the world. What is a work ethic anyway, breaking your balls to make someone else achieve a bigger profit margin?lowing wrote:
There is no shortage of people in the US with a complete lack of work ethic. It costs the company money which is trickled down to all of us as a burden to carry.
Except for the whole 'getting paid' part, lolBlue Herring wrote:
No silly, that's slavery.SenorToenails wrote:
I think in this case, it means actually doing the job you're paid to do.jord wrote:
It's not just the US, it's the world. What is a work ethic anyway, breaking your balls to make someone else achieve a bigger profit margin?
Good example: Physical Therapy. I know an employee who gets to leave during the work day for his multiple monthly "massages". Mind you, a PM (Project Manager) making six figures.SenorToenails wrote:
hahahahaha, I don't get how that kind of shit can be claimed with a straight face.Jay wrote:
Or get put on the hook for paying for their employees diet plans along with a personal trainer.SenorToenails wrote:
I dunno, they might get sued for providing the means to make the diabetes worse!
Was this due to an on-the-job injury? How else could an employer find that acceptable, unless there was some prior agreement (flex time, etc...)?Ilocano wrote:
Good example: Physical Therapy. I know an employee who gets to leave during the work day for his multiple monthly "massages". Mind you, a PM (Project Manager) making six figures.
I believe pre-existing condition. But be valuable enough to the company, and you can pretty much make up your own terms. We have people here who do DBA support wirelessly from the beach in Hawaii. I can pretty much work from home if I need to (need to take care of personal things during the day for example). Make up the balance of the 40 hours at night or the weekend or just take PTO.SenorToenails wrote:
Was this due to an on-the-job injury? How else could an employer find that acceptable, unless there was some prior agreement (flex time, etc...)?Ilocano wrote:
Good example: Physical Therapy. I know an employee who gets to leave during the work day for his multiple monthly "massages". Mind you, a PM (Project Manager) making six figures.
If you really need to ask that question, then consider yourself part of the problem.jord wrote:
It's not just the US, it's the world. What is a work ethic anyway, breaking your balls to make someone else achieve a bigger profit margin?lowing wrote:
There is no shortage of people in the US with a complete lack of work ethic. It costs the company money which is trickled down to all of us as a burden to carry.SenorToenails wrote:
The thing I always wonder about people who do believe that is...where is their self respect and sense of pride?
And by 'that', I mean " feel it is the company's job to cater to your health needs and pay for you not to be at work"
Prior arrangement/perk of the job...gotcha. Your standard wageslave won't get that kind of benefit!Ilocano wrote:
I believe pre-existing condition. But be valuable enough to the company, and you can pretty much make up your own terms. We have people here who do DBA support wirelessly from the beach in Hawaii. I can pretty much work from home if I need to (need to take care of personal things during the day for example). Make up the balance of the 40 hours at night or the weekend or just take PTO.SenorToenails wrote:
Was this due to an on-the-job injury? How else could an employer find that acceptable, unless there was some prior agreement (flex time, etc...)?Ilocano wrote:
Good example: Physical Therapy. I know an employee who gets to leave during the work day for his multiple monthly "massages". Mind you, a PM (Project Manager) making six figures.
That is a little different than what the OP is referring to though, isn't it?
Yeah. But with this new issue, those perks could become the norm.SenorToenails wrote:
Prior arrangement/perk of the job...gotcha. Your standard wageslave won't get that kind of benefit!Ilocano wrote:
I believe pre-existing condition. But be valuable enough to the company, and you can pretty much make up your own terms. We have people here who do DBA support wirelessly from the beach in Hawaii. I can pretty much work from home if I need to (need to take care of personal things during the day for example). Make up the balance of the 40 hours at night or the weekend or just take PTO.SenorToenails wrote:
Was this due to an on-the-job injury? How else could an employer find that acceptable, unless there was some prior agreement (flex time, etc...)?
That is a little different than what the OP is referring to though, isn't it?
lol... Ha, I wish.Ilocano wrote:
Yeah. But with this new issue, those perks could become the norm.SenorToenails wrote:
Prior arrangement/perk of the job...gotcha. Your standard wageslave won't get that kind of benefit!Ilocano wrote:
I believe pre-existing condition. But be valuable enough to the company, and you can pretty much make up your own terms. We have people here who do DBA support wirelessly from the beach in Hawaii. I can pretty much work from home if I need to (need to take care of personal things during the day for example). Make up the balance of the 40 hours at night or the weekend or just take PTO.
That is a little different than what the OP is referring to though, isn't it?
Seriously, if the changes are dramatic, it could just lead to more outsourcing in the short run, followed by a revision in the law to lessen its scope a year or two later.
We're already outsourcing. I need a database reindexed. I shoot out a ticket, it gets to our DBA's in India in the evening, and come morning, my database has been optimized.Turquoise wrote:
lol... Ha, I wish.Ilocano wrote:
Yeah. But with this new issue, those perks could become the norm.SenorToenails wrote:
Prior arrangement/perk of the job...gotcha. Your standard wageslave won't get that kind of benefit!
That is a little different than what the OP is referring to though, isn't it?
Seriously, if the changes are dramatic, it could just lead to more outsourcing in the short run, followed by a revision in the law to lessen its scope a year or two later.
I'm 100% fine with that. I just do as little as I can possibly get away with at work...lowing wrote:
If you really need to ask that question, then consider yourself part of the problem.jord wrote:
It's not just the US, it's the world. What is a work ethic anyway, breaking your balls to make someone else achieve a bigger profit margin?lowing wrote:
There is no shortage of people in the US with a complete lack of work ethic. It costs the company money which is trickled down to all of us as a burden to carry.
You're going to need to do better than that.jord wrote:
I'm 100% fine with that. I just do as little as I can possibly get away with at work...
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
ya don't say.jord wrote:
I'm 100% fine with that. I just do as little as I can possibly get away with at work...lowing wrote:
If you really need to ask that question, then consider yourself part of the problem.jord wrote:
It's not just the US, it's the world. What is a work ethic anyway, breaking your balls to make someone else achieve a bigger profit margin?
Yup. At work right now, browsing bf2s...lowing wrote:
ya don't say.jord wrote:
I'm 100% fine with that. I just do as little as I can possibly get away with at work...lowing wrote:
If you really need to ask that question, then consider yourself part of the problem.
Wish it was more active. Not that it matters, I've brought a book as well.
no kiddin'jord wrote:
Yup. At work right now, browsing bf2s...lowing wrote:
ya don't say.jord wrote:
I'm 100% fine with that. I just do as little as I can possibly get away with at work...
Wish it was more active. Not that it matters, I've brought a book as well.
Nope. I might even finish it today. About 20/60 pages read just this morning. Gonna be close.lowing wrote:
no kiddin'jord wrote:
Yup. At work right now, browsing bf2s...lowing wrote:
ya don't say.
Wish it was more active. Not that it matters, I've brought a book as well.
well just remember, if "the man" tries to fuck with ya, you can get the ACLU to claim harassment and discrimination on your behalf. Might even get Sharpton or Jackson to say a few words about your oppression.jord wrote:
Nope. I might even finish it today. About 20/60 pages read just this morning. Gonna be close.lowing wrote:
no kiddin'jord wrote:
Yup. At work right now, browsing bf2s...
Wish it was more active. Not that it matters, I've brought a book as well.
I'm good. If the military taught me one thing, it's how to get away with doing as little as possible. It was essential.lowing wrote:
well just remember, if "the man" tries to fuck with ya, you can get the ACLU to claim harassment and discrimination on your behalf. Might even get Sharpton or Jackson to say a few words about your oppression.jord wrote:
Nope. I might even finish it today. About 20/60 pages read just this morning. Gonna be close.lowing wrote:
no kiddin'
yeah but as companies feel the pinch, they might expect you to actually produce something, so watch out for that. Just remember you got unions and the ACLU there to fight on your behalf.jord wrote:
I'm good. If the military taught me one thing, it's how to get away with doing as little as possible. It was essential.lowing wrote:
well just remember, if "the man" tries to fuck with ya, you can get the ACLU to claim harassment and discrimination on your behalf. Might even get Sharpton or Jackson to say a few words about your oppression.jord wrote:
Nope. I might even finish it today. About 20/60 pages read just this morning. Gonna be close.
I do produce something. Like I said, as little as I can "get away with". I'll be fine.lowing wrote:
yeah but as companies feel the pinch, they might expect you to actually produce something, so watch out for that. Just remember you got unions and the ACLU there to fight on your behalf.jord wrote:
I'm good. If the military taught me one thing, it's how to get away with doing as little as possible. It was essential.lowing wrote:
well just remember, if "the man" tries to fuck with ya, you can get the ACLU to claim harassment and discrimination on your behalf. Might even get Sharpton or Jackson to say a few words about your oppression.
sounds like ya got all your bases covered then, and you know what liberal organizations you can turn to if or when your employer decides they want more from you for their money.jord wrote:
I do produce something. Like I said, as little as I can "get away with". I'll be fine.lowing wrote:
yeah but as companies feel the pinch, they might expect you to actually produce something, so watch out for that. Just remember you got unions and the ACLU there to fight on your behalf.jord wrote:
I'm good. If the military taught me one thing, it's how to get away with doing as little as possible. It was essential.
Jord is trolling you lowing. He doesn't read books.
Lol.
Actually I just ordered "thus spoke zarathrustra" the other day. I believe you enjoyed it.
Actually I just ordered "thus spoke zarathrustra" the other day. I believe you enjoyed it.
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