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Just had a class workout on my arms, I love this feeling

PrivateVendetta wrote:

pirana6 wrote:

creatine came today. i'm still not sold on it but hey, i guess that's why im trying it out right?

Me and my friend split a tub so we're gonna compare what the effect was to each of us. Starting loading phase now... Ill get back to y'all.

I'll be interested to see the effects. I've never wanted to use it, seemed too artificial to me.

Another person commented on my 'impressive' squat yesterday. Ohhh Rigghhht

Getting to the point of almost failure on the last set now.

I'm also very curious on how much lean muscle mass (so not water weight) you actually gain from it.

137.5KGx5 deadlift today. Tried to explode more on the way up, and it helped. Attempting 3 plates next week

ghettoperson wrote:

Do you guys wear weight belts when you lift?

thats for lug heads

Or people who don't want hernias. That said I've no idea how much risk there really is.

It increases abdominal pressure, which helps stabilize your lower back. I don't use one.

You shouldn't need a belt if you lift properly.
A belt can help you to lift more though, i think it can be up to 30lbs or something according to some things i've read.
I don't use one.

I looked at that article Ghetto, and it looks interesting, a bit along the lines of what the guy says in the SL5x5 report, so i might give it a go. I can get into the position, but I have to concentrate on not falling backwards if I rest on my heels.

Kampframmer wrote:

PrivateVendetta wrote:

pirana6 wrote:

creatine came today. i'm still not sold on it but hey, i guess that's why im trying it out right?

Me and my friend split a tub so we're gonna compare what the effect was to each of us. Starting loading phase now... Ill get back to y'all.

I'll be interested to see the effects. I've never wanted to use it, seemed too artificial to me.

Another person commented on my 'impressive' squat yesterday. Ohhh Rigghhht :cool:

Getting to the point of almost failure on the last set now.

I'm also very curious on how much lean muscle mass (so not water weight) you actually gain from it.

Very little. Creatine isn't going to help "build" your muscles. It's highly unlikely that Creatine itself would give you long term gains once you get off of it, and the supplement companies don't want that anyways. You could argue the benifits of an increase in energy (which was always barely noticeable for me), and that increase in energy might stave off muscle fatigue and allow for a better work out.. I guess :/

Creatine may give you the quick appearance of muscle growth, but really it's just cell volumization. .. which technically isn't muscle growth. My experience off and on over the years has been that, as soon as I got off it I dropped weight, and muscle size. There is no "memory function" in this regard. Once the Creatine monohydrate stops assisting in drawing in the water the benefits are gone. Protein, water, and proper rest/recovery are the best things you can do to get your body in an anabolic state after a workout.

btw, it's easy to find articles championing the benefits of creatine online. There is usually a profit factor behind them. I've had a lot of personal experience with this supplement and I can tell you, your money is much better spent on a high quality protein.

I wouldn't take stimulants unless you absolutely feel like you need it. I used to take a Caffine/ephedrine/asprin stack before working out and it helped maintain energy.. but I crashed hard, and would have trouble sleeping if I took it after 5pm.

You might want them some day, if you are feeling really drained. I just wouldn't make it a habit. .. that's another thing. You build a tolerance to those ingredients  (like Caffine), and you need more and more to get the kick. At some point you might feel like you need biochemical help just to pickup the weights. that is not natural and it is not good for your heart. Especially before a workout.

Btw I am not anti-supplement. I just think its far more important to concentrate on form, and building a good workout plan. One thing I like seeing in the comments here is how well you guys are documenting your workout. A lot of people don't do that (in detail). I don't understand how they can hit their goals without tracking their progress. I use a notebook when I am working out, keeping track of every rep.  Maybe its just my personality, but I have to have a clear plan.

Its not nearly as encouraging when you go to the gym and do whatever... but so many people do. Its pretty evident at the gyms I've been to.