BF2S Forums Wave of anti-abortion Bills sweeps US

War Man wrote:

Oh and as I said before, I'm not entirely against abortion for religious reasons only. As I said before, everyone deserves a chance at life no matter the situation.

Then what happens when you kill a civ while you're in the marines war man? You robbed an innocent being of its right to life

don't be logical burnzz, what are you doing?

yeah but thats different

burnzz wrote:

Shocking wrote:

yeah but thats different

it's ok, i believe in the death penalty. unlike others that do, i believe in the right of choice.

I guess that makes you pro-death.

i don't have to guess, Macb. years and situations have formed my opinions, and they are merely that - my opinion.



it just means i have come to begrudge the misery an unwanted pregnancy brings into the world, and the fact that we house murderers that will never be 'rehabilitated'.

religion sais so it must be true

i dont believe in the death penalty but im not against it

nigga*

burnzz wrote:

let's be honest.

who here really believes abortion is ever justified? if you believe it is justified for rape, mother's health, etc. you are pro choice.

if you believe abortion is justified, how do you feel about murder? is there a time that a murderer is ever justified? i'm not talking manslaughter, accidental death, i'm talking about when you pull the trigger to kill a n*****. when death is for personal gain like money or revenge.

The question confuses me a little, you're pro choice right? You mean as in considering human life sacred yet making exceptions for certain situations yes?

Shocking wrote:

The question confuses me a little, you're pro choice right?

i'm pro "take a fucking stance and stick with it".

stupidest fucks who've ever walked the earth wrote:

i'm pro-life, but except in the situation of rape, mother's lifes in danger, days that end in 'y', and when my local congressman tells me not to

someone is either pregnant, or they*re not, amirite?

q: how the fuck can you be pro life if you allow any exceptions?
a: when you*re a quisling. actually, any exceptions means you*re pro-choice. deal with it.

q: how do you know you*re for the death penalty?
a: when you can pull the trigger.

q: why is thread still open?
a: because in true bf2s form, the thread died six pages ago, but no one reported it so it stays open.

Blue Herring wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I don't even know what you said.

My point was that no animal has demonstrated the ability to enter space through thought(and usage of that thought) alone, which demonstrates something unique within humans. Whether or not that's some immeasurable sense or simply a combination of just the right attributes isn't something that can easily be debated at this point (nor is it necessary for the issue), as its not up for debate whether or not human life is given more value in a moral sense, it IS given more value in a moral sense. The question then becomes how do you define a human life, and that's what leads me to the conclusion that I draw.

So, what about when humans weren't able to enter space? Were we animals then? When was this transition point exactly when we were no longer able to be considered animals?

I'm probably nitpicking on turn of the phrase here, but mankind has entered space through machinery and principles brought about by thought, not on thought alone. We're simply the most advanced toolmaking species on the planet, currently, and I don't believe this potential is unique at all. I'll argue that it sets our intelligence apart from other animals' in bombastic technological advances, but by holding it in exclusive esteem to other forms of intelligence and cunning, you'd be just as guilty as those who design IQ tests based on unrealistically narrow criteria.

Apart from that, I'm still not sure where you're taking this.

Uzique, Burnz, shocking/dayarath, and all those pro-choice people. I have a yes or no question for you. Are you guys happy you didn't get aborted? Are you happy you are alive? Just answer yes or no, nothing else.

Uzique wrote:

i guess the mother in a life-threatening situation is worth her chance at life too, then

Have you read my posts thoroughly? If it is a health risk for the mother to give birth then abortion is ok for me. One of those situations "It is either my life or the other persons life" that I have no problem with.

Shocking wrote:

War Man wrote:

Oh and as I said before, I'm not entirely against abortion for religious reasons only. As I said before, everyone deserves a chance at life no matter the situation.

Then what happens when you kill a civ while you're in the marines war man? You robbed an innocent being of its right to life

Shifty wants to go marines, I want to go army. Another thing not all civilians are innocent. But anyway I have no doubt it will haunt me if it was an innocent civilian. Then again, that person didn't get aborted so he did at least had his/her chance at life. Doesn't mean I won't regret killing the innocent civilian. Aborting is denying a person a chance at life. As I have been saying

Jay wrote:

burnzz wrote:

i have never met a more hypocritical set of people than pro-lifers that believe in the death penalty. anyone who believes life is sacred until it's convicted by a jury should be put down.

Or believing that killing in war is somehow justifiable but everywhere else life is sacred.

It is also one of those situations where "It is my life or the other persons life." But doesn't mean people at war don't regret killing people, I have no doubt you have had your regrets if you did kill a person. I'm not gonna ask ya if ya did of course.