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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Never said a thing about conspiracy, I charge blatant bias..
Are Fox ranting about this now that Obama is President? No? Are they biased?

Abu Ghraib was 10,000 times bigger than a few rogue grunts, and directly traceable back to Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney.
a few rouge grunts? How many people do you think went to jail for Abu Ghraib?

Please explain how Abu Ghraib is 10,000 times bigger. I understand that is was covered 10,000 times more intensely, but how was it 10,000 time bigger?

Then explain how it was traceable directly back to Bush and Rumsfeld, and now that Obama is in charge, everyone is responsible for their OWN actions.

Anyway, at least Varegg doesn't have to travel far to see Bush was blamed.
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

And I'm sure this isn't exactly good news for Obamas administration either ...
Really? how can ya tell?
Quite simply because it wouldn't be good news for any administration ...
nope, especially if it were reported with the same zeal Abu Ghraib was.

However with Bush we didn't have to guess that did we?

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lowing wrote:

a few rouge grunts? How many people do you think went to jail for Abu Ghraib?
About 1/100th of the people who should have.
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

a few rouge grunts? How many people do you think went to jail for Abu Ghraib?
About 1/100th of the people who should have.
then how many do you think should go to jail for the death squads?

oh and yer cherry picking again.... address the whole post please

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Abu Ghraib and a small group of out of control grunts are very different situations.

Night.
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Abu Ghraib and a small group of out of control grunts are very different situations.

Night.
lol, I see, well I can't see any argument against that iron clad observation.
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lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:


Really? how can ya tell?
Quite simply because it wouldn't be good news for any administration ...
nope, especially if it were reported with the same zeal Abu Ghraib was.

However with Bush we didn't have to guess that did we?
There is no guessing involved in an issue like this, it wasn't then and it isn't now ...
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:


Quite simply because it wouldn't be good news for any administration ...
nope, especially if it were reported with the same zeal Abu Ghraib was.

However with Bush we didn't have to guess that did we?
There is no guessing involved in an issue like this, it wasn't then and it isn't now ...
not sure how you can say that considering the lack of coverage of this latest incident. Even on this forum people like Dilbert are arguing it is different, still waiting to find out how it is different, never the less, it is different, so far we just gotta take his word for it.
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Nic wrote:

Also Shifty, jesus, you wonder why people bag on you. What do you mean "our guys", living in america does not make you american! Also, are you under the impression that only American soilders have been tortured during war times?
No, but having an American mother makes you American.
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FEOS wrote:

From what I've heard in news reports on this, the photos got to der Speigel as a result of the investigation and prosecution of these douchebags.

That would be the difference and, to me, why there's no reason for outrage. Some people did some horrible things. They are being prosecuted for it. It's not like it was being covered up by anyone (a la Abu Ghraib). Someone blew the whistle on the team, the DoD investigated and started prosecutorial proceedings against them.

As far as trying to keep the pictures from public view? I don't see a problem with it. What purpose does it serve, except to inflame hatred for Americans in general when it wasn't Americans in general who performed these acts? It was an isolated incident that was investigated and prosecuted as soon as it was discovered--a singularly important aspect that is completely missed/overlooked in the reporting's pursuit of headlines.

Ty wrote:

Abu Ghraib prison was, loosely speaking, an institution established by the Bush administration which did not seem to regulate the conduct of the guards and the conditions of the facility leading to behavior that caused outrage. This is a disgusting and sick act by a rogue group of soldiers. The two things are different - but no less shocking. I point out the difference simply to show why the Bush administration copped some flack for Abu Ghraib while the Obama administration is unlikely to cop flak for this.

I don't know why there is little outrage over this. Maybe it's just because people are immune to this stuff which is pretty concerning. Maybe it's because it's the belief that this is an isolated incident. The former seems most likely, with the US media, (both liberally slanted and conservatively slanted,) the news is determined by what's sell-able. I'm guessing that they don't think their viewers care to see more atrocities by the military in the middle-east.
These two posts sum it up quite nicely.

Other than that, I can quite easily imagine this being brought up at some round table discussion at a news agency, and having some exec say "Leave it, Afghanistan is old and moldy, we need something new to keep ratings!"

Beyond that, where is the outrage? I don't know, not like it's something physical that I can say, "Oh yeah! I remember, it's in my sock drawer!"

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