lowing
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma … -civilians
Found this on the net along with a question: Where is the outrage?

Pictures of Abu Ghraib came to define Iraq and demonized Bush for the liberals. Those were pictures of soldiers posing in front of prisoners.

There pictures are of soldiers posing in front of dead civilians they had killed as part of Obama's Afghanistan. Now, where are the liberals with their outrage and disdain for Obama? Where is the media crucifying the president?

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unnamednewbie13
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Moved to DST as requested. Also deleted EE junk and bad link stuff.
lowing
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Moved to DST as requested. Also deleted EE junk and bad link stuff.
thank you. I felt like I walked in on a teenage girl sleepover. didn't mean to interrupt EE.

Sorry for the intrusion ladies.

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1927
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The very first paragraph says it all really.  Didnt they learn from their mistakes before?  It seems not

How can someone bring themselves to do that, must be hatred
lowing
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1927 wrote:

The very first paragraph says it all really.  Didnt they learn from their mistakes before?  It seems not

How can someone bring themselves to do that, must be hatred
cant dispute that, but again.....how come the media and the liberals are not eating obama alive for this?

can we not agree this is infinitely than pictures with prisoners?

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Shocking
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Did they blame Bush for the kid that threw a puppy off of a cliff?

An entire prison and a couple individuals are different things. Doesn't matter much to me though, Obama... Bush, same shit.

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I dunno.  It isn't right...no matter what.  I wasn't really in an outrage at Bush over the previous incident.  I didn't feel like it was something he could have changed.  It was an immediate chain of command problem IMO.
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unnamednewbie13
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You could argue that Obama's war was inherited and not started by the administration. Needless to say, whatever he was informed about it was enough to make him keep troops deployed, or he's as much of a campaign bullshitter as any other politician.

The case has already created shock around the world, particularly with the revelations that the men cut "trophies" from the bodies of the people they killed.
Sounds like WW2 all over again.
1927
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Maybe that will happen as that very first paragraph says 'bracing'.  I cant talk on any level in regardless to politics, certanly not another countries, however, with whats going on in Libya and other places right now, this is the last thing USA/NATO/UK whoever needs.

Its no Obama's fault, its only the fault of those troops involved, but the blame will go right to the top wont it?  What could of he done about it? Not much, I suppose its what he does next that'll count
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I didn't see it on Fox News either
1927
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I just read the whole article.

Bunch of fucking animals, Im glad someone grassed them up and they are standing trial.  Send them back out there and let the locals decide what punishment.
lowing
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1927 wrote:

Maybe that will happen as that very first paragraph says 'bracing'.  I cant talk on any level in regardless to politics, certanly not another countries, however, with whats going on in Libya and other places right now, this is the last thing USA/NATO/UK whoever needs.

Its no Obama's fault, its only the fault of those troops involved, but the blame will go right to the top wont it?  What could of he done about it? Not much, I suppose its what he does next that'll count
Don't get me wrong, I do not blame Obama, and I do not think this defines the war either, however, when something like this happened before, the media the liberals and even this forum trashed the hell out of Bush and defined the war by those pictures.

These events are so much more worse than anything that happen in Abu Ghraib, yet no calls for Obamas head on a platter, like Bush.
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1927 wrote:

I just read the whole article.

Bunch of fucking animals, Im glad someone grassed them up and they are standing trial.  Send them back out there and let the locals decide what punishment.
they are! how the hell are these trials not news like that of Lynndie England?
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SEREMAKER wrote:

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except for 1 apparently
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I'm sure there's plenty of outrage in Afghanistan. This shit now gets conveniently buried under the Libya/Japan stories though. Those guys need to get arse fucked with the long arm of the court martial. They've only gone and made things worse for their comrades anyway.

People will come in saying "It's war it happens lol you don't understand" - Plenty of fucking people go to war, plenty. Most don't go crazy at all, let alone this sort of crazy. Even usmarine over here, the guy is a complete fuckery but he doesn't seem like the guy who would get pushed to do stupid/crazy shit or the type of person that's been scarred for life over what he's seen. There ain't no excuse for what these guys did, and they were stupid enough to record it all, most people don't do stupid shit...and even less record it all down.
Shocking
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You'd think there would be at least one guy in a platoon that would object to doing shit like that, how did so many nutters end up in one team?

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Mekstizzle wrote:

I'm sure there's plenty of outrage in Afghanistan. This shit now gets conveniently buried under the Libya/Japan stories though. Those guys need to get arse fucked with the long arm of the court martial. They've only gone and made things worse for their comrades anyway.

People will come in saying "It's war it happens lol you don't understand" - Plenty of fucking people go to war, plenty. Most don't go crazy at all, let alone this sort of crazy. Even usmarine over here, the guy is a complete fuckery but he doesn't seem like the guy who would get pushed to do stupid/crazy shit or the type of person that's been scarred for life over what he's seen. There ain't no excuse for what these guys did, and they were stupid enough to record it all, most people don't do stupid shit...and even less record it all down.
This all happened long before Libya and Japan though. I mean c'mon, remember Abu Ghraib?!! Remember the coverage and the demonizing?

can we really deny the media is in love with Obama after this, compared to what they did to Bush for far less?

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Shocking wrote:

You'd think there would be at least one guy in a platoon that would object to doing shit like that, how did so many nutters end up in one team?
it's that age-old phenomenon called "peer pressure"
lowing
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Trotskygrad wrote:

Shocking wrote:

You'd think there would be at least one guy in a platoon that would object to doing shit like that, how did so many nutters end up in one team?
it's that age-old phenomenon called "peer pressure"
can you honestly say you would fall for peer pressure like that? Hell, I didn't even smoke as a teenager when it was the "cool" thing to do.

Yes all of you college and HS kids on bf2s, smoking makes you cool, so inhale deep, and hold it as long as you can, the longer you hold it, the cooler you are!!
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I've heard on the news here, that this has come out on Afghan New Year. What passe's for the press there hasn't got their teeth into it....yet.
The Pres has seen the pic's and is said that he will comment on it when back in D.C.
The troops have been charged, C.I.D. is on it.....

We will see how it plays out.
lowing
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Karbin wrote:

I've heard on the news here, that this has come out on Afghan New Year. What passe's for the press there hasn't got their teeth into it....yet.
The Pres has seen the pic's and is said that he will comment on it when back in D.C.
The troops have been charged, C.I.D. is on it.....

We will see how it plays out.
in court no doubt, we are seeing how it will play out in the media already.
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Trotskygrad wrote:

Shocking wrote:

You'd think there would be at least one guy in a platoon that would object to doing shit like that, how did so many nutters end up in one team?
it's that age-old phenomenon called "peer pressure"
I don't think anyone would give in to peer pressure so easily. Posing with dead enemy combatants undoubtedly happens, although a bit sick, but with civvies? Taking trophies?

At that point your mind oughtta tell you 'this is wrong'.
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Is lowing the new ATG? If so, that should be his forum title.

Smells of a set up. If true, shame on them; if not then shame on the sources of the story.
Premature to say anything else.
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