Beduin wrote:
I do not approve this military operation. People must learn to take care of their own. This is because Libya is a small strategic very rich country.
If you want something, work hard for it and earn it. Nothing is for free you know...
well, that doesn't exactly make them fine representatives of the wishes of the african people.11 Bravo wrote:
so what? thats their problem.Spark wrote:
mostly because the AU is and has always been in gaddafi's pocket.
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If it keeps oil prices down I'm for it. Starting to take the piss these prices.
And I predicted it would happen before the NFZ was announced.FEOS wrote:
C2 and air defenses have to be taken down to ensure the NFZ doesn't get mucked with.
People have been saying that since the NFZ has started to be discussed, Dilbert.
Announcing a NFZ doesn't give the right to flatten everything on the ground which emits a radio signal.
Its a no-fly zone, not a no-radar zone.
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How the hell are you supposed to enforce a no-fly zone if your planes keep getting shot down? In any case this is far more than a simple NFZ.
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Then is will likely be another Somalia, or maybe Nigeria - a corrupt govt in the pocket of the oil companies.Bertster7 wrote:
I don't think so. No one wants to go in on the ground. Providing air and naval support for the rebels is about as far as I think this will go.11 Bravo wrote:
yes it will.FatherTed wrote:
this will not be an Iraq/Afghan
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Have any planes been shot down enforcing the NFZ?Spark wrote:
How the hell are you supposed to enforce a no-fly zone if your planes keep getting shot down? In any case this is far more than a simple NFZ.
Maybe we should just shoot anyone pointing an AK upwards.
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Dilbert_X wrote:
Announcing a NFZ doesn't give the right to flatten everything on the ground which emits a radio signal.
Its a no-fly zone, not a no-radar zone.
Perchance there have been no lost aircraft because the air forces and navies have concentrated on destroying ground-based air defenses?Dilbert_X wrote:
Have any planes been shot down enforcing the NFZ?Spark wrote:
How the hell are you supposed to enforce a no-fly zone if your planes keep getting shot down? In any case this is far more than a simple NFZ.
Maybe we should just shoot anyone pointing an AK upwards.
no thats the risk you take. if one fires at you then take it out. until then....piss off.
Exactly, just as a ceasefire doesn't mean you can still shoot anyone who looks at you funny.11 Bravo wrote:
no thats the risk you take. if one fires at you then take it out. until then....piss off.
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As to why the International community is involved it's because for once it wants to take a stand against something awful. It seems lessons have been learned from Rwanda.
As the why the US is involved... I have no idea. I mean I see it as a good thing but I don't see why other global powers can't do their part instead of it falling to the US armed forces. Again.
As the why the US is involved... I have no idea. I mean I see it as a good thing but I don't see why other global powers can't do their part instead of it falling to the US armed forces. Again.
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again...what is awful? it aint much worse than most countries...worse in others nobody cares about.Ty wrote:
As to why the International community is involved it's because for once it wants to take a stand against something awful.
and that makes it ok? no one said this was consistent.
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~ Richard Feynman
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so you are helping the rebels? good job. im sure that will work out just fine.Spark wrote:
and that makes it ok? no one said this was consistent.
oh and stop saying "it is to protect civilians." bollocks. its for oil and regime change. have fun with the nation building.
It would be nice to think that but I'm highly doubtful, we won't be going into Zimbabwe or Tibet any time soon, nor will we be siding with the Taliban when they 'rebel' against the corrupt Pakistani govt.Ty wrote:
As to why the International community is involved it's because for once it wants to take a stand against something awful. It seems lessons have been learned from Rwanda.
All we're doing is giving a whole new part of the world a reason to hate the west, and I expect 'democracy' in a new Libya to be a total shit-bucket.
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how are you meant to nation build without troops on the ground? don't go down the dx territory marine
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~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
because i know there will be troops on the ground eventually. you can count on it.Spark wrote:
how are you meant to nation build without troops on the ground? don't go down the dx territory marine
If the coalition has learn't anything from Iraq it is secure the oil, change the regime then get the fuck outta there.
Whether they follow this lesson we will soon see.
Whether they follow this lesson we will soon see.
If we don't nation build it will become Somalia, if we do it will be another Nigeria.
Its all a bit odd considering we were chums with Gadaffi until lately.
Its all a bit odd considering we were chums with Gadaffi until lately.
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How do propose to do that? As soon as you leave the oil is unsecured.Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
If the coalition has learn't anything from Iraq it is secure the oil, change the regime then get the fuck outta there.
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Your govt has a higher tax on petrol than the actual cost is. Bitch at them.jord wrote:
If it keeps oil prices down I'm for it. Starting to take the piss these prices.
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No. Try Google.11 Bravo wrote:
did curveball tell you that?FEOS wrote:
WMD: He's still got gobs of them in storage.
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well golly they are so dangerous why did we wait until now? or better yet why are we pissing him off into using them?FEOS wrote:
No. Try Google.11 Bravo wrote:
did curveball tell you that?FEOS wrote:
WMD: He's still got gobs of them in storage.