i thought the same thing
Is it not people commenting on how they aren't as silent as they are protrayed in films and stuff?
I'm not too familiar with silencers, are they really that useful? Those seemed pretty loud.
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I'm not too familiar with silencers, are they really that useful? Those seemed pretty loud.
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it depends on what ammo you use with them-Sh1fty- wrote:
I'm not too familiar with silencers, are they really that useful? Those seemed pretty loud.
Was he using subsonic ammo in that video?
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no idea
it's hard to tell in videosghettoperson wrote:
That was much quieter than I was expecting. I thought people always say silencers aren't very good?west-phoenix-az wrote:
I want to pick up a AAC Ti-Rant or Evo in 45. Get an adapter and use it on both 9mm and 45. The new 'Ti-RANT 45S' can be disassembled.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
I was thinking Gemtech Blackside 45
Go to 1:25 for 9mm thru a 45 can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pb_LrIJtC8
That's why the industry doesn't call them "silencers" but "suppressors". The goal isn't to make bullets have no noise -- that's not really possible. However, making them safe to use without hearing protection, that's entirely possible and good for you. That's their general aim. Not like, as stated, in ze movies.-Sh1fty- wrote:
silencers
With .22 lr, subsonic ammo and a silenced rifle the bullet impact is usually louder than the shot going off.
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Out of idle curiosity, why the left handed threads on the suppressors/barrels?
Because barrels are usually right handed?Slarty wrote:
Out of idle curiosity, why the left handed threads on the suppressors/barrels?
The spinning bullet could conceivably unscrew the suppressor, I guess.
I'd not heard they were reverse threaded.
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Can make it even quieter if the slide locks after the shot too I think, manually cycled.Dilbert_X wrote:
With .22 lr, subsonic ammo and a silenced rifle the bullet impact is usually louder than the shot going off.
Very good video explanation of suppressed versus unsuppressed pistols, and suppressor using supersonic versus subsonic ammo.
Or, to my way of thinking, "Why the .45 Auto, launching 230gr rounds at 875fps is the perfect handgun caliber for a suppressed pistol"
In a handgun, is there any disadvantage to using sub-sonic ammo? I can see why in a rifle it'd be a disadvantage, so I guess you'd have to make a decision about how close you want to shoot from.
If the standard loading for a cartridge is above supersonic, you need to reduce the velocity to make it sub-sonic. Normally, this is done by increasing the mass of the bullet. Alternatively, you can also reduce the powder charge (or do both). If you reduce the powder charge too much, it might not cycle semi-automatic or automatic firearms. Also in some firearms (AR-15), you can get gas venting toward the shooter. (They do make accessories to prevent this effect.)ghettoperson wrote:
In a handgun, is there any disadvantage to using sub-sonic ammo? I can see why in a rifle it'd be a disadvantage, so I guess you'd have to make a decision about how close you want to shoot from.
Certain handgun cartridges were designed for subsonic loadings, and thus perform quite well in that speed range.ghettoperson wrote:
In a handgun, is there any disadvantage to using sub-sonic ammo? I can see why in a rifle it'd be a disadvantage, so I guess you'd have to make a decision about how close you want to shoot from.
Examples off the top of my head: .45 Auto (230gr), .22 LR.
Other rounds are in-between, and can be easily loaded for supersonic OR subsonic
9x19 (9mm Parabellum) in 115gr is supersonic, in 147gr is subsonic
Yet other rounds are designed to be supersonic, and could only be made subsonic with questionable results.
.44 magnum, .50AE, .500 S&W, etc
General rule of thumb;
If a cartridge is subsonic, stay subsonic - if it is supersonic (1100+ fps), stay supersonic throughout the projectile flight.
Don't get a round that is going to transition from supersonic to subsonic.
Accuracy generally goes to hell in the transonic transition.
(Think Chuck Yeager breaking the sound barrier in The Right Stuff, wobbling and shaking around.)
Has to do with case powder capacity, and mechanics of the pistol designed around the cartridge.
For example, trying to make a Desert Eagle .44 or .50AE launch subsonic rounds will suck, as the mechanism of the pistol is designed around the forces/gasses generated by the lighter supersonic round, and it will frequently jam.
Meanwhile, an MP-5SD submachine gun in 9mm will happily work with both types of rounds.
Now, a good old M1911 .45 Auto (230gr round launched at 875fps), is already subsonic as designed in 1911.
At normal pistol/smg/carbine ranges, the difference between a heavy subsonic round (.45 Auto) and a light fast round (.223) is akin to asking"Do you want to run over them with a motorcycle, or drop a bus on them?"
Personally, I'm a fan of dropping a bus on 'em (.45 Auto), or perhaps 8 busses at once (12 gauge, 00 buck)
Edit: well, MP5 may be a little happier with the alternate bolt head
And, do NOT try to make subsonic cartridges into supersonic +P+ monsters, unless you like, say, breaking off the slide of your M92 pistol with Israeli +P+ 9mm ammo and ramming said explosively disassembled slide into your face at high speeds...
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saw this one over at shotgunworld and was like holy shit!
In the middle of the stage (after 8 or so rounds of birdshot) 2 slugs were required. The shooter loaded 2 Wolf slugs, attempted to fire, *click* (we all thought it was simply a dud)... he quickly performed a malfunction clearance, ejected the first and chambered the next slug, aimed, pulled the trigger, and BOOOOOM.
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtop … p;t=252639
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nobody noticed the slug missing from the first one?
signa wrote:
saw this one over at shotgunworld and was like holy shit!
by the time i logged into shotgunworld to warn someone, it was too late . . .krazed wrote:
nobody noticed the slug missing from the first one?
anyone fill me in one what happened?signa wrote:
saw this one over at shotgunworld and was like holy shit!http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/ … 1399b6.jpgIn the middle of the stage (after 8 or so rounds of birdshot) 2 slugs were required. The shooter loaded 2 Wolf slugs, attempted to fire, *click* (we all thought it was simply a dud)... he quickly performed a malfunction clearance, ejected the first and chambered the next slug, aimed, pulled the trigger, and BOOOOOM.
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtop … p;t=252639
Did the first round go off but block the barrel?
pretty much
that's the inherent risk of time based shooting competition. bad shit happens really fast. the priority shifts from safety to speed. the guy's lucky he's still got both eyes and all the fingers on his weak hand. He probably won't be using cheap wolf garbage anymore, at least not during competition.