9.0 Earthquake in Japan (March 11, 2011)

2011-03-11 10:17:21

#101

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|5997|...

The core is still stable, nowadays it's literally impossible to have a repeat of chernobyl in any modern nuclear reactor. There are so many self-correcting mechanisms + like 10 safety nets in case those all fail. And even then, there's still multipile feets of concrete to seperate the outside world from the core, or the reactor entirely.

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2011-03-11 10:22:22

#102

Kez: Member; +778|5701|London, UK

Absolutely, I don't doubt the ability of these scientists who are monitoring the situation and the news isn't really focussing on that issue specifically so I imagine that it's not a major problem right now

2011-03-11 10:33:13

#103

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|5997|...

People are really just terrified of nuclear power since chernobyl tbh, which is just a shame.

The only thing that can make it go wrong is if you drop a nuke right on top of a reactor

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2011-03-11 10:37:04

#104

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6495

Mekstizzle wrote:
The media seem to be blowing this out of proportion, 8.9 is huge and the Tsunamis were big...but Japan has got this shit on lock.

more hype;

https://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3783/031111tsunami5.jpg

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2011-03-11 10:42:00

#105

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6469

Shocking wrote:
People are really just terrified of nuclear power since chernobyl tbh, which is just a shame.

The only thing that can make it go wrong is if you drop a nuke right on top of a reactor

uuuuuuuum, no.

if a reactor's cooling fails (which the plant in japan's did), the core will overheat and literally blow the roof off, ejecting radioactive matter and debris everywhere. when chernobyl overheated and blew its top, it spewed a radioactive cloud that floated and fell over all of europe-- there are still regions in rural places such as north wales where the radioactivity is insane, and the ground/cattle are all poisoned. that's decades ago. nuclear plants are only a risk if you nuke them? oh dear.

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2011-03-11 10:58:34

#106

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6647

If you live in a relatively stable country they're perfectly safe, but somewhere as earthquake prone as Japan seems a little more risky. I'd love there to be more of them in Europe, but Japan/California/Turkey I'd be more concerned about them.

2011-03-11 10:58:48

#107

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|5997|...

A modern day reactor can stay uncooled for weeks without causing any major damage - 'cept to the core itself. Which ends up getting destroyed if all the water which is supposed to cool it is gone, melting it, sort of - but due to the design of the reactor radioactive leaks are largely contained.

This happens when the cooling system fails completely and the water disappears from the core - happens if both the main and internal backup power sources fail (due to the heat of the core, even when shut down, constant circulation of water is necessary to keep it cooled).

There are many different types of reactors though, some have passive cooling systems to prevent the core getting destroyed.

inane little opines

2011-03-11 11:07:32

#108

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|5997|...

Doesn't mean it's perfectly safe though because there is probably still going to be some leakage into the environment, which is why it's absolutely necessary to evacuate anyone in the vicinity.

Nothing of the scale of chernobyl though, which, was also really an unfortunate chain of events in which ALL safety mechanics failed... during a test. Miscommunication, misreading, and everyone doing everything wrong at the same time.

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2011-03-11 11:13:12

#109

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6469

yeah i understand that chernobyl is nearing the 'worst case scenario' end of the scale... but i don't think people want to even take the slightest chance with the minutest of risks when it comes to nuclear accidents. it's extremely bad PR, if anything, for nuclear power. the scale and extent of the damage almost becomes secondary to the fact that there has been a nuclear leak-- almost coming full circle back to your mention of people's irrational fear of anything bearing the 'nuclear' tag.

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2011-03-11 11:15:49

#110

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6469

some of the 'best' (using the term in the most grim fashion) footage

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=016_1299829101

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2011-03-11 11:29:14

#111

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|5997|...

Well yeah, safe to say that a nuclear accident is probably the scariest thing that could happen because the damage is lasting, which is why I can understand the fear people have for it. But at the same time, there have been very few accidents compared to the amount of reactors there are around and how long they have been used. Something in the magnitude of increasing cancer risk for thousands will, I believe, never happen again.

It's definitely not the end all or as safe as all possible alternatives but the amount of energy it yields goes far beyond the output of any other method... nuclear fusion even more so (if succesful, more energy return than input) but that's arguably even more dangerous (imagine what happens if the cooling of a reactor wall in there fails, you have a live sun charring everything in its vicinity).

Uzique wrote:
some of the 'best' (using the term in the most grim fashion) footage

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=016_1299829101

wow

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2011-03-11 11:38:40

#112

Monkey Spanker: Show it to the nice monkey.; +284|6250|England

So I just heard from my sister who teaches English in an international school in Tokyo all safe & well, tbh I've been shitting it all day. I actually managed to get to speak to her via bloody facebook she is more worried about not being able to flush the toilet because it is one of these fancy electronic ones & there is no power.

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Quote of the year so far "Fifa 11 on the other hand... shiny things for mongos "-mtb0minime

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2011-03-11 11:39:50

#113

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6221|Escea

A flaming tsunami

2011-03-11 12:08:44

#114

-Whiteroom-: Pineapplewhat; +572|6657|BC, Canada

Uzique wrote:
some of the 'best' (using the term in the most grim fashion) footage

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=016_1299829101

Man oh man thats terrible.

2011-03-11 12:24:47

#115

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|5997|...

Monkey Spanker wrote:
So I just heard from my sister who teaches English in an international school in Tokyo all safe & well, tbh I've been shitting it all day. I actually managed to get to speak to her via bloody facebook she is more worried about not being able to flush the toilet because it is one of these fancy electronic ones & there is no power.

I don't know what state tokyo's infrastructure is in but it wouldn't be a bad idea to try and get some emergency power supply.

Like one of these;

https://www.2ehandskopen.nl/2/public/uploads/fotos/big/aggregaat.jpg

inane little opines

2011-03-11 12:27:19

#116

Ilocano: buuuurrrrrrppppp.......; +341|6665

Shocking wrote:
Monkey Spanker wrote:
So I just heard from my sister who teaches English in an international school in Tokyo all safe & well, tbh I've been shitting it all day. I actually managed to get to speak to her via bloody facebook she is more worried about not being able to flush the toilet because it is one of these fancy electronic ones & there is no power.
I don't know what state tokyo's infrastructure is in but it wouldn't be a bad idea to try and get some emergency power supply.

Like one of these;

http://www.2ehandskopen.nl/2/public/upl … regaat.jpg

Outskirts of Tokyo and beyond, yes. City, no.

2011-03-11 15:37:57

#117

justice: OctoPoster; +978|6739|OctoLand

Been out all day, just found out. All the best to everyone there, the death toll is going to be rising for quite some time, I can't even imagine what the costs in damages will be after the dust has settled.

8,000 times stronger than the one which devastated Christchurch, New Zealand, last month, said scientists.

Shit....

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I know fucking karate

2011-03-11 15:43:27

#118

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5472|Ventura, California

Ultrafunkula wrote:
Kmar wrote:
Lucien wrote:

jesus there's people just driving right next to it too
Right.. and look how fast it is moving..
No wonder the video was cut before it got to the road

crazy stuff they're going through

I'm worried about the nuclear plants. Does anybody with more knowledge of such plants know if they might go 2011 Tchernobyl?

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-03-11 15:48:57

#119

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6469

no shifty, it won't. it has already been discussed.

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2011-03-11 16:01:14

#120

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5472|Ventura, California

Sorry I'm in a rush, just got out of the shower, g2g now so I didn't want to read through the whole thing.

Thanks zique

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-03-11 16:11:38

#121

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5584

Japan Recovery Effort Could, Eventually, Create Economic Spark
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011 … mic-spark/

Condolences to the 1000+ dead. I was up last night when first videos were coming through on CNN last night. Horrible shit. The Red Cross is doing donations by phone again btw.

2011-03-11 16:18:12

#122

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5472|Ventura, California

guess I don't g2g, damn it I need my license, aunt won't drive me to where I need 2 go.

Is Japan the only place that got hit by a tsunami? Or at least the only place that took damage?

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-03-11 16:22:23

#123

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6469

shifty are you fucking incapable of getting information from anywhere but the bible?

check, um, i don't know... any news website in the world? live tv coverage?

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2011-03-11 16:41:20

#124

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6673|Canberra, AUS

Shocking wrote:
Doesn't mean it's perfectly safe though because there is probably still going to be some leakage into the environment, which is why it's absolutely necessary to evacuate anyone in the vicinity.

Nothing of the scale of chernobyl though, which, was also really an unfortunate chain of events in which ALL safety mechanics failed... during a test. Miscommunication, misreading, and everyone doing everything wrong at the same time.

well, they basically all but tried to meltdown the reactor. a task in which they "admirably" succeeded.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-03-11 16:43:38

#125

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6536|Long Island, New York

Certainly nothing major, but it's really crazy how it can make it all the way to SF.

BF2S Forums 9.0 Earthquake in Japan (March 11, 2011)

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