EE Chats February

2011-02-28 13:09:04

#5576

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6982|PNW

Interned at a small computer repair company while I was still in tech college in the 90's. People sure love to take advantage of you when you work for free.

Uzique wrote:
that's why internships are a joke. it's an employment culture that totally exploits a newer, more desperate generation of grads.

$0.02

THIS.

It's one thing if you can intern while you're still a dependent, but the way some of them operate is horribly abusive.

2011-02-28 13:09:13

#5577

Kampframmer: Esq.; +313|5053|Amsterdam

They dont arrange it for you, but companies that are looking for interns can get on a list, and the uni will hand that list with relevant internships to the students. In those 3 months you also wont have as many classes. But not all studies have this (most do afaik)

2011-02-28 13:11:05

#5578

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5912|College Park, MD

I would possibly settle for an unpaid internship if it's at a very good company where I could make solid contacts to get a real job there later. I'd love a paid internship though, because I really don't want to work a shitty retail or food service job.

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2011-02-28 13:11:16

#5579

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6681

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
yeah i've felt that internships are just ways companies receive free labor
but it leads to better things... right?

like i said it depends on the industry

in journalism or publishing you have to slave your way into the 'inner circles' by brown-nosing... sometimes for years

i know of people that have lived in hostels in london, like backpackers, for 3-4 years

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2011-02-28 13:11:25

#5580

Kampframmer: Esq.; +313|5053|Amsterdam

In the lower forms of post-highschool education, they do arrange those internships for you. Most of the time people end up filling the shelves in a local super market. For no pay.
What a fun learning experience!

2011-02-28 13:20:06

#5581

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6982|PNW

lol, if you look it up, you'll find no end to business articles on why this shit is a 'good thing.'

2011-02-28 13:20:47

#5582

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6865

We can breathe in space. They just don't want us to escape.

2011-02-28 13:22:25

#5583

Bevo: Nah; +718|6731|Austin, Texas

Uzique wrote:
definitely not the case

i'm mad because to get into intellectual and professional careers, you're basically expected to do free internships for about 3-4 years for top companies.

have fun living in central london working full-time for free... and making no money...

after already landing yourself in £20k of debt from your university loans

that's why internships are a joke. it's an employment culture that totally exploits a newer, more desperate generation of grads.

$0.02

free? yuck. Most summer internships here for engineering students pay $15-20/hr, although a lot of them want you to do co-ops which is lame as shit.

2011-02-28 13:24:15

#5584

Kampframmer: Esq.; +313|5053|Amsterdam

Bevo wrote:
Uzique wrote:
definitely not the case

i'm mad because to get into intellectual and professional careers, you're basically expected to do free internships for about 3-4 years for top companies.

have fun living in central london working full-time for free... and making no money...

after already landing yourself in £20k of debt from your university loans

that's why internships are a joke. it's an employment culture that totally exploits a newer, more desperate generation of grads.

$0.02
free? yuck. Most summer internships here for engineering students pay $15-20/hr, although a lot of them want you to do co-ops which is lame as shit.

You get an internpayment here at some internships/schools. But what it often comes down to is 2euro/h

2011-02-28 13:25:11

#5585

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|6171|Places 'n such

I was looking at science based summer placements earlier and most of them were paying about £4000 and giving you accommodation.

I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.

2011-02-28 13:29:32

#5586

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6681

different industries...

science and engineering and the like also have huge state subsidies and public-funded elements...

i'm talking about private sphere high-sector jobs

Last edited by Uzique (2011-02-28 13:30:02)

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2011-02-28 13:35:29

#5587

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,978|6842|949

Uzique wrote:
Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
yeah i've felt that internships are just ways companies receive free labor
but it leads to better things... right?
like i said it depends on the industry

in journalism or publishing you have to slave your way into the 'inner circles' by brown-nosing... sometimes for years

i know of people that have lived in hostels in london, like backpackers, for 3-4 years

that's the publishing industry for you...it's cutthroat as hell. Lots of hours, lots of expectations, low pay.

2011-02-28 13:39:15

#5588

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|6171|Places 'n such

Uzique wrote:
different industries...

science and engineering and the like also have huge state subsidies and public-funded elements...

i'm talking about private sphere high-sector jobs

True, but expecting someone to live in London without any money is fucking crazy. I don't see how you would manage it.
I'm not denying it's true, I just think its stoopit.

I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.

2011-02-28 13:44:13

#5589

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6681

i know it's stupid.

the only people that manage to get into these advertising, publishing or journalistic jobs are normally silver-spoon fed kids of already-rich professionals... normally professionals already in these industries, utilising their networks and contacts to shoe-horn their kids into the same trade. it's extremely hard to get into and that's why i just see internships as an exploitative process: you work for free for years, not so much just getting 'trade experience' as trying to fellate and preen your way into an exclusive group of salaried circle-jerkers.

(fyi no i'm not intending to go into any of the aforementioned, but i have some friends that graduated previously and are pretty sore about it)

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2011-02-28 13:55:01

#5590

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,978|6842|949

i guess I'll just close this one then...

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