Erkut.hv
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VIENNA, Austria - The U.N. atomic agency found traces of highly enriched uranium at an Iranian site linked to the country's defense ministry, diplomats said Friday, adding to concerns that Tehran was hiding activities aimed at making nuclear arms.

The diplomats, who demanded anonymity in exchange for revealing the confidential information, said the findings were preliminary and still had to be confirmed through other lab tests. But they said the density of enrichment appeared to be close to or above the level used to make nuclear warheads.

Still, they said, further analysis could show that the traces match others established to have come from abroad. The     International Atomic Energy Agency determined earlier traces of weapons-grade uranium were imported on equipment from Pakistan that     Iran bought on the black market during nearly two decades of clandestine activity discovered just over three years ago.

Uranium enriched to between 3.5 percent and 5 percent is used to make fuel for reactors to generate electricity. It becomes suitable for use in nuclear weapons when enriched to more than 90 percent.

Iran's refusal to give up enrichment ambitions has led to involvement by the     U.N. Security Council, which has the power to impose sanctions but remains split on how firmly to pressure Tehran.

Key U.N. Security Council members agreed Tuesday to postpone a resolution that would have delivered an ultimatum to Tehran, giving Iran another two weeks to re-evaluate its insistence on developing its uranium enrichment capabilities.

Iran's hard-line president said Friday that his country was not afraid of possible U.S. military action over its enrichment program, but added that he thought any such strikes were very unlikely. Washington has said it favors a diplomatic end to the dispute, but it hasn't ruled out military force.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad also told a local TV station that Iran would cooperate with the Security Council if it makes a decision on the escalating standoff as long as the world body acts "in line with international rules."

The Islamic republic denies accusations it wants to make nuclear arms and says it is only interested in uranium to generate power.

To argue that it never enriched uranium domestically to weapons grade, it cites the IAEA's tentative conclusion last year that weapons-grade traces collected from other sites within the country with no suspected ties to that military came in on equipment from Pakistan.

The origin of the samples now under perusal created some concern in that regard.

One of the diplomats told The Associated Press that the samples came from equipment that can be used in uranium-enriching centrifuges at a former research center at Lavizan-Shian. The center is believed to have been the repository of equipment bought by the Iranian military that could be used in a nuclear weapons program.

The United States alleges Iran had conducted high-explosive tests that could have a bearing on developing nuclear weapons at the site.

The State Department said in 2004 that Lavizan's buildings had been dismantled and topsoil had been removed in attempts to hide nuclear weapons-related experiments. The agency subsequently confirmed that the site had been razed.

In an April 28 report to the U.N. Security Council and the IAEA's 35-nation board of governors, agency head Mohamed ElBaradei said the agency took samples from some of the equipment of the former Physics Research Center at Lavizan-Shian. The diplomat said the evaluation of those samples revealed the traces in question.

Ahmadinejad's remarks on possible U.S. military action were made in Jakarta during a discussion with Indonesian Islamic leaders.

Asked whether his country was prepared to face an attack by the United States, he said "that is very unlikely because they know the Islamic Republic of Iran is a strong country."

"They are trying to frighten our country by waging a propaganda campaign using strong words. The people of Iran and the country are not afraid of them," he said to applause from the audience.

The Chinese and Russians have balked at British, French and U.S. efforts to put the resolution under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter. Such a move would declare Iran a threat to international peace and security and set the stage for further measures if Tehran refuses to suspend its uranium enrichment operations. Those measures could range from breaking diplomatic relations to economic sanctions and military action.
Horseman 77
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Let some other Country handle it, I don't want to sit through it all over again if we can't substantiate the Intel 3 years later. I also doubt if a War starts Iran would leave the shit lying around labled for us to find.
blademaster
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yeah U.S. should back off according to Donald rumsfeld we knew where those nuclear missles were or long range missles were when we attacked Iraq, and we never found them, so I say dont attack no one let them do their own thing, let them build nukes if they like we dont have to baby sit everyone, people knwo what the hell they are doing, if its nukes they want nukes they'll nukes they'll get.
Erkut.hv
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Horseman 77 wrote:

Let some other Country handle it, I don't want to sit through it all over again if we can't substantiate the Intel 3 years later. I also doubt if a War starts Iran would leave the shit lying around labled for us to find.
It is getting irritating. I think Ahmadenijad should just come out, give us the finger, piss on a W poster, and tell us to "bring it on" if he really wants a war. If not, just go home, stfu, and knock off the enrichment bullshit.
Marconius
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The thing is he Doesn't want a war.  He's just making it known that they will not be the first agressors.  Even with all of the distrust flying around, it serves no point to stop them from following through with nuclear energy technology and research.
Erkut.hv
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Marconius wrote:

The thing is he Doesn't want a war.  He's just making it known that they will not be the first agressors.  Even with all of the distrust flying around, it serves no point to stop them from following through with nuclear energy technology and research.
Yeah beacuse N. Korea said they were using it for peaceful purposes and we all know that turned out okay....

Besides, he only called for the destruction of Israel, and hey, nobody here likes Israel anyway, right?

Yes, let's keep our Great Satan fat asses on the couch stuffing our mouths with hostess cupcakes while the rest of the world clamours to get weapons to light us up with.

At least we'll die with full bellies.
Horseman 77
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Calling for israels destruction is a pretty scary thing to do if you value your life. you may notice he never came out and Said " We will destroy israel " he just predicted its demise.

Sitting on a Couch stuffing my face with Hostess cup cakes Sounds good... later !
splixx
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blademaster wrote:

yeah U.S. should back off according to Donald rumsfeld we knew where those nuclear missles were or long range missles were when we attacked Iraq, and we never found them, so I say dont attack no one let them do their own thing, let them build nukes if they like we dont have to baby sit everyone, people knwo what the hell they are doing, if its nukes they want nukes they'll nukes they'll get.
And if you dont remember Afghanistan when Rumsfield was telling the news that Al-Qaeda had HUGE underground bases with Nukes and all sorts of weopons in these so called caves. I also remember him saying they could drive huge trucks into these massive underground fortresses... So far what did they find? I am still waiting on those huge bases to be uncovered with all the huge technology they had. Does that guy ever know what he is talking about?
Erkut.hv
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splixx wrote:

blademaster wrote:

yeah U.S. should back off according to Donald rumsfeld we knew where those nuclear missles were or long range missles were when we attacked Iraq, and we never found them, so I say dont attack no one let them do their own thing, let them build nukes if they like we dont have to baby sit everyone, people knwo what the hell they are doing, if its nukes they want nukes they'll nukes they'll get.
And if you dont remember Afghanistan when Rumsfield was telling the news that Al-Qaeda had HUGE underground bases with Nukes and all sorts of weopons in these so called caves. I also remember him saying they could drive huge trucks into these massive underground fortresses... So far what did they find? I am still waiting on those huge bases to be uncovered with all the huge technology they had. Does that guy ever know what he is talking about?
Hmmmm.... kind of interesting. I haven't heard anything from Rumsfled in quite a while. Wonder if he was told to stfu.
Horseman 77
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off topic again, the only place you can slip sh*t like this in and not get it hammered out.

Last edited by Horseman 77 (2006-05-14 10:25:27)

Zaitik
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Erkut.hv wrote:

Besides, he only called for the destruction of Israel, and hey, nobody here likes Israel anyway, right?
omfg are you retard?! i dont like sweden does it allow me to kill every fucking swedish ppl? NO..and think thos who lived in israel when US attacked there....stupid retard
Horseman 77
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Zaitik wrote:

omfg are you retard?! i dont like sweden does it allow me to kill every fucking swedish ppl? NO..and think thos who lived in israel when US attacked there....stupid retard
this is some twisted 9 year old at home fretting about his penis size. he does this crap in every post. he thinks it makes him apear dark and deep, instead he apears imature, just ignore him. Dont even qoute his name. ok ?
Erkut.hv
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tardwithnoname wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:

Besides, he only called for the destruction of Israel, and hey, nobody here likes Israel anyway, right?
omfg are you retard?! i dont like sweden does it allow me to kill every fucking swedish ppl? NO..and think thos who lived in israel when US attacked there....stupid retard
Awesome post. I couldn't resist quoting you. You, my friend, are my hero. Check this out:

sar·casm  (särkzm)
n.
1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

Oh, and "stupid retard"... that is sheer genius. You gay homo....

Edited to remove genius' name.

Last edited by Erkut.hv (2006-05-15 07:57:01)

Erkut.hv
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Erkut.hv wrote:

tardwithnoname wrote:

Erkut.hv wrote:

Besides, he only called for the destruction of Israel, and hey, nobody here likes Israel anyway, right?
omfg are you retard?! i dont like sweden does it allow me to kill every fucking swedish ppl? NO..and think thos who lived in israel when US attacked there....stupid retard
Awesome post. I couldn't resist quoting you. You, my friend, are my hero. Check this out:

sar·casm  (särkzm)
n.
1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
3. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

Oh, and "stupid retard"... that is sheer genius. You gay homo....

Edited to remove genius' name.
To whoever hit me with negative karma for "I normally try to refrain from negative karma, but not only did you use "gay" as an insult, you also used "homo", which is both less of a slang term for bad, and redundant. "

You totally missed the point. It was in reference to the previous posters attempt at a double whammy insult.

"Stupid retard" I consider very redundant, which is why I used the gay homo. Perhaps "stupid dummyhead" would've been better.... asshat.
GunSlinger OIF II
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diplomacy will fail
Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
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And any pre-emptive action based on assumptions will fail even harder.
GunSlinger OIF II
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Marconius wrote:

And any pre-emptive action based on assumptions will fail even harder.
not if the goal is war
alpinestar
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Americans have yet to see war, invasion is not war
On that note IRAN has multiple contracts on weaponry with Russia, and Russian equipment is much more advanced than american, makes you think don't it ?

Last edited by alpinestar (2006-05-18 13:31:43)

GunSlinger OIF II
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alpinestar wrote:

Americans have yet to see war, invasion is not war
On that note IRAN has multiple contracts on weaponry with Russia, and Russian equipment is much more advanced than american, makes you think don't it ?
wrong, right, wrong and wrong
Y0URDAD
I'ma Eat Yo Children!
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GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

alpinestar wrote:

Americans have yet to see war, invasion is not war
On that note IRAN has multiple contracts on weaponry with Russia, and Russian equipment is much more advanced than american, makes you think don't it ?
wrong, right, wrong and wrong
check, check, check and check

Russian equipment was on par with America during the Cold War, and since its fall--even today--russian military development is lacking and their maintenance is terrible.
KEN-JENNINGS
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I see Iran doing the same thing N. Korea did - Using the idea of gaining enriched uranium as some sort of bargaining tool.  I don't know if they are trying to become world players or simply trying to get economic aid of some sort.  One thing I do know is that if the US attacks Iran preemptively, it will be another country that acts as a terrorist breeding ground.  Even IF Iran had enriched uranium, they have no delivery system capable of hitting the US (as in ICBM).  A dirty bomb is a little scary, but so is Griffith Park after dark.  Also, I think everyone, including Iran's president, knows that the US would win a war against Iran.  Iran's armed forces are more ill-equipped than Iraq's.  Also, I think the US would be making a huge mistake in regards to international diplomacy if they were to engage in a war with Iran where they were not part of a UN-sanctioned coalition force.
alpinestar
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Y0URDAD wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

alpinestar wrote:

Americans have yet to see war, invasion is not war
On that note IRAN has multiple contracts on weaponry with Russia, and Russian equipment is much more advanced than american, makes you think don't it ?
wrong, right, wrong and wrong
check, check, check and check

Russian equipment was on par with America during the Cold War, and since its fall--even today--russian military development is lacking and their maintenance is terrible.
Ask any military experts about russian equipment I assume you are american you keep your country proud by saying it and all, but Im neither american nor russian and my opinion might sound funny but it is true
Check with military experts
One more thing most of the russian military developments are not published publicaly for very obvious reasons whereas you can find blueprints of M1 abrams on the internet.
Maintenance might be rather hard but durability is much more important, one example is AK-47.

Last edited by alpinestar (2006-05-18 14:52:07)

GunSlinger OIF II
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yeah, russian military experts.

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