krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
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quebec doesn't count

they just sit there and bitch when they don't get what they want


like they're currently doing over the federal budget
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Kmar wrote:

That's the problem with small thinkers like you. You're oblivious to historical context. It's obvious how little you know about the man. Otherwise you would understand the why and circumstances of his tactics .. which despite your comment, was not like the Taliban. I don't think you understand what guerilla warfare actually means. Go spend another five more minutes wiki educating yourself.

maybe read the entire guest comment you quoted?
http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/c … 2600b.html
I'm somewhat less impressed with guest comments than learned historians, still your guest admits your ancestor used brutal tactics learned from the Cherokee he slaughtered and dispossessed.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Kmar wrote:

That's the problem with small thinkers like you. You're oblivious to historical context. It's obvious how little you know about the man. Otherwise you would understand the why and circumstances of his tactics .. which despite your comment, was not like the Taliban. I don't think you understand what guerilla warfare actually means. Go spend another five more minutes wiki educating yourself.

maybe read the entire guest comment you quoted?
http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/c … 2600b.html
I'm somewhat less impressed with guest comments than learned historians, still your guest admits your ancestor used brutal tactics learned from the Cherokee he slaughtered and dispossessed.
*Your guest... that is the origin of your selected quote. Perhaps investigate the words you quote next time. Those events were done under British order, usually as a rebuttal to what the Cherokee had instigated.

His letters show that he was clearly not happy with what was happening.

"The next morning we proceeded, by order of Colonel Grant, to burn down the Indian cabins. Some of our men seemed to enjoy this cruel work, laughing very heartily at the curling flames as they mounted, loud-crackling, over the tops of the huts. But to me it appeared a shocking sight. 'Poor creatures!' thought I, 'we surely need not grudge you such miserable habitations.'

The Cherokee wars were particularly ugly. To win wars you must break the will of your opponent. The Cherokees knew this, and so did the Brits. They both used brutal tactics to try and break each other.
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I reckon they should make a movie about this guy.
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Ultrafunkula
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Waaaaait wait wait. Kmar owns slaves?
Kmar
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And yet I've got a pile of laundry that's not moving
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KuSTaV wrote:

I reckon they should make a movie about this guy.
There is a lot of interesting middle eastern historical figures you could make a movie about.
Ultrafunkula
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Kmar wrote:

And yet I've got a pile of laundry that's not moving
More stick. Less carrot. You gotta motivate them right.
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Ultrafunkula wrote:

Kmar wrote:

And yet I've got a pile of laundry that's not moving
More stick. Less carrot. You gotta motivate them right.
https://i.imgur.com/jrZXy.gif
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Ultrafunkula
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And I was only trying to be helpful
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A Central California man who was at a cockfight died after being stabbed in the leg by a bird that had a knife attached to its own limb, officials confirmed Monday.

Jose Luis Ochoa, 35, of Lamont, was declared dead at a hospital about two hours after he was injured in neighboring Tulare County on Jan. 30, the Kern County coroner said.

An autopsy concluded Ochoa died of an accidental "sharp force injury" to his right calf.

Sheriff's spokesman Ray Pruitt said it was unclear if a delay in seeking medical attention contributed to Ochoa's death.

"I have never seen this type of incident," Sgt. Martin King, a 24-year veteran of the sheriff's department, told the Bakersfield Californian.

Ochoa and the other spectators fled when authorities arrived at the scene of the fight, King told the newspaper. Deputies found five dead roosters and other evidence of cockfighting at the location, he said.
Kmar
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AussieReaper wrote:

Ultrafunkula wrote:

Kmar wrote:

And yet I've got a pile of laundry that's not moving
More stick. Less carrot. You gotta motivate them right.
http://i.imgur.com/jrZXy.gif
Lol.. I was like.. im just going to slowly back away from this conversation.
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Macbeth wrote:

A Central California man who was at a cockfight died after being stabbed in the leg by a bird that had a knife attached to its own limb, officials confirmed Monday.

Jose Luis Ochoa, 35, of Lamont, was declared dead at a hospital about two hours after he was injured in neighboring Tulare County on Jan. 30, the Kern County coroner said.

An autopsy concluded Ochoa died of an accidental "sharp force injury" to his right calf.

Sheriff's spokesman Ray Pruitt said it was unclear if a delay in seeking medical attention contributed to Ochoa's death.

"I have never seen this type of incident," Sgt. Martin King, a 24-year veteran of the sheriff's department, told the Bakersfield Californian.

Ochoa and the other spectators fled when authorities arrived at the scene of the fight, King told the newspaper. Deputies found five dead roosters and other evidence of cockfighting at the location, he said.
I guess you could say he....



























cocked up
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Macbeth wrote:

A Central California man who was at a cockfight died after being stabbed in the leg by a bird that had a knife attached to its own limb, officials confirmed Monday.

Jose Luis Ochoa, 35, of Lamont, was declared dead at a hospital about two hours after he was injured in neighboring Tulare County on Jan. 30, the Kern County coroner said.

An autopsy concluded Ochoa died of an accidental "sharp force injury" to his right calf.

Sheriff's spokesman Ray Pruitt said it was unclear if a delay in seeking medical attention contributed to Ochoa's death.

"I have never seen this type of incident," Sgt. Martin King, a 24-year veteran of the sheriff's department, told the Bakersfield Californian.

Ochoa and the other spectators fled when authorities arrived at the scene of the fight, King told the newspaper. Deputies found five dead roosters and other evidence of cockfighting at the location, he said.

MR.HANDS wrote:

there are worse ways to die
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Ultrafunkula
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Kmar wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Ultrafunkula wrote:


More stick. Less carrot. You gotta motivate them right.
http://i.imgur.com/jrZXy.gif
Lol.. I was like.. im just going to slowly back away from this conversation.
Ooooooh no you won't!
Dilbert_X
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I'm pretty sure this guy is in the _X family tree somewhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler

Vlad found Wallachia in a wretched state: constant war had resulted in rampant crime, falling agricultural production, and the virtual disappearance of trade. Regarding a stable economy essential to resisting external enemies, he used severe methods to restore order and prosperity.

Vlad had three aims for Wallachia: to strengthen the country's economy, its defense and his own political power. He took measures to help the peasants' well-being by building new villages and raising agricultural output. He understood the importance of trade for the development of Wallachia. He helped the Wallachian merchants by limiting foreign merchant trade to three market towns.
Seems sound.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-02-08 04:43:32)

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Vlad gets a bad rep really. He was brutal sure but he was fighting off a rising Ottoman Empire many times his size.
Dilbert_X
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Quite a funny guy too.
One of the most famous woodcuts of the period shows Vlad feasting in a forest of stakes and their grisly burdens outside Brașov, while a nearby executioner cuts apart other victims. This place was famously known as the Forest of the Impaled. In this forest is a story of Vlad's "sense of humor": a servant was holding his nose and Vlad said to him while feasting, "Why do you do that?" The servant replied, "I cannot stand the stench." Vlad immediately ordered him impaled on the highest stake and said, "Then you shall live up there, where the stench cannot reach you."
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Impaled.gif
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Quite a funny guy too.
One of the most famous woodcuts of the period shows Vlad feasting in a forest of stakes and their grisly burdens outside Brașov, while a nearby executioner cuts apart other victims. This place was famously known as the Forest of the Impaled. In this forest is a story of Vlad's "sense of humor": a servant was holding his nose and Vlad said to him while feasting, "Why do you do that?" The servant replied, "I cannot stand the stench." Vlad immediately ordered him impaled on the highest stake and said, "Then you shall live up there, where the stench cannot reach you."
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … mpaled.gif
I'm pretty certain that's not true.

In any case as far as cruel sense of humors go Hulagu gets a special mention.
The stories of what Hulagu did to the caliph vary. One says that Hulagu toyed with him a while, dining with him and discussing theology and pretending to be his guest. A famous account describes how Hulagu imprisoned the caliph in a roomful of treasure and brought him gold on a tray instead of food. The caliph protested that he could not eat gold, and Hulagu asked him why he hadn’t used his money to strengthen his army and defend against the Mongols. The caliph said, “That was the will of God.” Hulagu replied, “What will happen to you is the will of God, also,” leaving him among the treasure to starve.

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Kmar
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I figured this would be more up your alley mac
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_ … ccusations
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Kmar wrote:

I figured this would be more up your alley mac
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_ … ccusations
I'm sad I already know the whole virgin blood thing just by her name.

Anyway Vlad got the royal reputation hatchet job after he died.

Last edited by Macbeth (2011-02-08 05:18:34)

Uzique
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Macbeth wrote:

Vlad gets a bad rep really. He was brutal sure but he was fighting off a rising Ottoman Empire many times his size.
almost every documentary represents him as a guy somehow unfairly 'expected' to defend christian-europe from the turk-muslim threat in the east, whilst receiving absolutely no fucking help militarily or economically from the other thriving european powers. country sustained huge losses and was fucked up. also there's a huge psychological complex to do with his dad selling him into slavery as the bitch-boy of the turk ruler as a child... where we was abused constantly. interesting character. bad rep certainly.
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