Yes I have. Amazing that galaxy formation would happen so quickly after "transparency"
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
what the fuck man, did you even try reading my post?Stingray24 wrote:
The same applies on my part towards what "proves" evolutionary theory or similar schools of thought that exclude the divine from our origins.
inane little opines
I don't know why there's this whole debate about teaching Creationism in schools (spoiler alert: we shouldn't). I'd never even heard of it until at least middle school. I was familiar with the creation stories of the Bible, but I'm fairly certain whenever we coverered something about life on Earth, we explored evolution and left the unscientific creation theory out (even though the two aren't mutually exclusive). I remember actually being awestruck when I found out people actually believed in creationism, too. My parents were Catholic and we went to church on a regular basis, but they certainly never tried to sell me that story.
An extraordinary number of countrymen do though.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
well, religious loonies do beleave god cares about them understanding. so, to make it fair and for the sake of this... ehm... "argument", let's assume ET'es would care too. >.<Kmar wrote:
What is to say it is even within our capacity to understand it?
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
My first question would have to be what makes ET the creator and not part of the creation?Stingray24 wrote:
Proof of anything is in the eye of the beholder. What constitutes proof of God's existence to me is laughable to many here. The same applies on my part towards what "proves" evolutionary theory or similar schools of thought that exclude the divine from our origins. We can all poke holes in one another's point of view til we're at a loss for words. In the end they are theories, none of which are immune to a skeptic's question marks.
What I'm trying to do is raise the question of this thread on both sides of the equation. We've asked the question whether religious people would change or abandon their belief system when ET is discovered. I'd simply like to explore the other side. Will those who consider themselves followers of science and unbelievers in any creator abandon their explanation for the universe when ET shows up and declares us their masterpiece? Think outside the box people. If one of those ignorant religious people can do it, surely you can.
Then I will take out my CCW and make first contact.
That doesn't have anything to do with specific religions like Christianity etc.. if Aliens came down here and said they were our creators that wouldn't fly/be compatible with any of the mainstream religions (or any religion, really).Stingray24 wrote:
Proof of anything is in the eye of the beholder. What constitutes proof of God's existence to me is laughable to many here. The same applies on my part towards what "proves" evolutionary theory or similar schools of thought that exclude the divine from our origins. We can all poke holes in one another's point of view til we're at a loss for words. In the end they are theories, none of which are immune to a skeptic's question marks.
What I'm trying to do is raise the question of this thread on both sides of the equation. We've asked the question whether religious people would change or abandon their belief system when ET is discovered. I'd simply like to explore the other side. Will those who consider themselves followers of science and unbelievers in any creator abandon their explanation for the universe when ET shows up and declares us their masterpiece? Think outside the box people. If one of those ignorant religious people can do it, surely you can.
You have to remember that religion is a human construct. You can't really call yourself a devout Christian and then say that Aliens coming down and proving themselves to be the God of Humanity is somehow, justifying Christianity, can you?
However, I have read interesting theories of how Aliens could be the Gods of Ancient times, and that's how humanity learnt so much in such a short time and all that. It's not entirely unfathomable to think of something like that. Think Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skulls. It had a story line like that. There's loads of theories of the Ancient Gods being Aliens.
When/If Humanity becomes super-awesome and colonises space, native less-developed societies could see us as Gods too.
Hell, even when Europeans went to the Americas they used Astronomy/Science to fool the natives into thinking they're Gods. Once of the Conquistadors (Columbus, or one of them, I dunno) predicted an eclipse which left the natives in awe. It's nothing mind boggling, really.
1. We found a puppy ( what )
2. on the side of the Highway ( where )
3. 2 nites ago ( when )
4. ~ 11Pm, ( it was late at nite, well past your bed time )
5. when it was about 14 degrees out, ( It was Very cold Dangerous for an animal without a winter coat )
6. He is Some sort of Mastiff, No fur, Very short Hair ( Describes dog )
7. Vet said " 3 months old, Max " ( more detail, dog was very young - helpless )
8. He was freezing and near death. ( dog's life was in peril )
9. I have no idea if there is a God but I hope there is a Hell and who ever threw him out of their car spends some time there.
( author of post needs justice meted out to those who abuse helpless animals )
10. Can you find the misspelled words ?
( THIRD GRADE STOP HERE ! )
10. To lowing: If ET has the biggest gun. He can tell me He is the creator. I will agree. ( you can follow this, if not ask for help )
11. To mekkstizzle : If we were 'True Christians ' they would see us as peaceful, caring and trying to promote World/Universal Harmony. Maybe they would like us more and not eat us or hunt us for sport ? lol ( see 11. )
TEST
1. What did he find ? (____________)
2. Where did he find it ? (____________)
3. How did this make him Feel ? (____________)
4. Explain the reason he felt that way ___________________________________________________________________________________
5. Which best describes the weather, _______
A It was sunny. B It was Windy C. It was cold. D. It was misty.
EXTRA CREDIT
Opening for Columbus is " Nick Hitler the Narcoleptic Comic " Hey what a crowd, you guys look Great ! I mean that, ! give yourselves a hand ...
( ask for help have a parent or teacher explain it to you.. For extra credit make you own joke in the space provided below )
2. on the side of the Highway ( where )
3. 2 nites ago ( when )
4. ~ 11Pm, ( it was late at nite, well past your bed time )
5. when it was about 14 degrees out, ( It was Very cold Dangerous for an animal without a winter coat )
6. He is Some sort of Mastiff, No fur, Very short Hair ( Describes dog )
7. Vet said " 3 months old, Max " ( more detail, dog was very young - helpless )
8. He was freezing and near death. ( dog's life was in peril )
9. I have no idea if there is a God but I hope there is a Hell and who ever threw him out of their car spends some time there.
( author of post needs justice meted out to those who abuse helpless animals )
10. Can you find the misspelled words ?
( THIRD GRADE STOP HERE ! )
10. To lowing: If ET has the biggest gun. He can tell me He is the creator. I will agree. ( you can follow this, if not ask for help )
11. To mekkstizzle : If we were 'True Christians ' they would see us as peaceful, caring and trying to promote World/Universal Harmony. Maybe they would like us more and not eat us or hunt us for sport ? lol ( see 11. )
TEST
1. What did he find ? (____________)
2. Where did he find it ? (____________)
3. How did this make him Feel ? (____________)
4. Explain the reason he felt that way ___________________________________________________________________________________
5. Which best describes the weather, _______
A It was sunny. B It was Windy C. It was cold. D. It was misty.
EXTRA CREDIT
Good point but even to a relatively primitive culture, this view didn't last long. I am not sure every last Aztec etc. bought into it either. A Solar Eclipse takes a long time. Did they have a warm up act or were the Natives just really patient ?Mekstizzle wrote:
" Hell, even when Europeans went to the Americas they used Astronomy/Science to fool the natives into thinking they're Gods. Once of the Conquistadors (Columbus, or one of them, I dunno) predicted an eclipse which left the natives in awe. It's nothing mind boggling, really ."
Opening for Columbus is " Nick Hitler the Narcoleptic Comic " Hey what a crowd, you guys look Great ! I mean that, ! give yourselves a hand ...
( ask for help have a parent or teacher explain it to you.. For extra credit make you own joke in the space provided below )
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i swear hunter/jumper talks in some sort of postmodern / postwriting meta-language that deceives all of us with its crypto-symbolic meanings
that last sentence could honestly be the schizoid mutterings of a mental patient...
it looks like hunter/jumper is also inventing a new system of grammars to mind-wash us and control us all!
that last sentence could honestly be the schizoid mutterings of a mental patient...
it looks like hunter/jumper is also inventing a new system of grammars to mind-wash us and control us all!
libertarian benefit collector - anti-academic super-intellectual. http://mixlr.com/the-little-phrase/
well I hear they're giving internet access at the state asylum these days
Be nice to Uziuqe, The joke will sink in later.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
well I hear they're giving internet access at the state asylum these days
If people have been burned at the stake for refusing to deny their faith, Do you relay think you can change some ones mind here ? Using butter knife wit and Geometric Logic. Save your breath and do something worth while with your time.
Repeating the same proses over and over and expecting different results is...( ____________ ) Anyone ?
I know I lost Uziuqe by now.
Repeating the same proses over and over and expecting different results is...( ____________ ) Anyone ?
I know I lost Uziuqe by now.
you lost me purely because i don't understand what point you're trying to convey. the content might be there idk but just spend a minute or two getting the wording/grammar right and people probably wouldn't call you out on it.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
just say " i don't understand " I believe you. Im helping Uziuqe right now ( See edit )FatherTed wrote:
you lost me purely because i don't understand what point you're trying to convey. the content might be there idk but just spend a minute or two getting the wording/grammar right and people probably wouldn't call you out on it.
really i'm not even trying to troll or being obtuse, but what?
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
We've been asking that question ever since he made his presense known on this forum.FatherTed wrote:
really i'm not even trying to troll or being obtuse, but what?
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
obtuse, roflmaoFatherTed wrote:
really i'm not even trying to troll or being obtuse, but what?
..?
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
He's legitimatly asking you to clarify what you're saying, so you don't even bother doing so.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
obtuse, roflmaoFatherTed wrote:
really i'm not even trying to troll or being obtuse, but what?
You deserve everything bad everyone on this forum has said to you.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Go back to the post were three people are patiently trying to explain the Auto insurance concept to you.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=141796&p=3
This sounds funny if you can visualize the hockey helmet he is probably wearing right now.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=141796&p=3
This sounds funny if you can visualize the hockey helmet he is probably wearing right now.
Right now Uziuqe needs help, so get in line.UnkleRukus wrote:
I'm one of those people who needs to be shown things. That's how I learn. I don't learn by having some bloke tell me to "go read this subject you know very little about and come back and make an opinion on it."
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It took 3 people to help me undersrtand it, but you still have yet to grasp the english language. Which far more than 3 people have tried to help you understand.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Go back to the post were three people are patiently trying to explain the Auto insurance concept to you.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
i don't even know what he was trying to say. something about a puppy being thrown out the window?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Probably not the best comeback you could have used. I hope you ( undersrtand ) it better now. lolUnkleRukus wrote:
It took 3 people to help me undersrtand it, but you still have yet to grasp the english language. Which far more than 3 people have tried to help you understand.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Go back to the post were three people are patiently trying to explain the Auto insurance concept to you.
GTG You have 24 hours to think of some thing witty. I can smell the smoke already. lol
loaz liek u iz da funnies boi eva!Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Probably not the best comeback you could have used. I hope you ( undersrtand ) it better now. lolUnkleRukus wrote:
It took 3 people to help me undersrtand it, but you still have yet to grasp the english language. Which far more than 3 people have tried to help you understand.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
Go back to the post were three people are patiently trying to explain the Auto insurance concept to you.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.