Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5418|Sydney

Kampframmer wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

I used to but it was too much sometimes. So now I eat about half. That's approx 30g in a meal, for half a 300g breast (bearing in mind chicken is about 20-22% protein by weight). I can see why you'd eat three at a time.
How many meals do you eat a day, and what do you eat?
My diet has gone to shit this past week (going to a festival, out to dinner, eating on the run etc doesn't help at all) but generally I'll try to eat 5 meals a day.

Usually I'll have rolled oats with protein powder for brekky, or I'll have 3 egg whites and a yolk with low fat cheese on toast.

Snack will often be a protein bar (45 grams of protein).

Lunch will often be a turkey breast sandwich with tomato and light cheese on wholemeal or soy & linseed bread.

On workout days I'll have 3 shakes (I include the one with the oats at breafast), with one an hour before workout and another immediately post workout. On non workout days I'll have 2 shakes.

Dinner will either be steak or chicken (usually) with salad or steamed vegetables.


I've been trying to lose weight though but now I've decided to gain some bulk (my plan has been to lose some fat this month, try to bulk a bit in Feb and go from there as to how I feel my progress is going), so I'm going to eat more and have an extra shake each day too.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5418|Sydney
By contrast, 4 months ago my diet over a week was Hungry Jack's (same as Burger King, different name here for some reason) 5+ times a week, fish and chips a few times a week, packet noodles when I wanted a quick snack, drank like a fish on weekends and had a couple most week nights, didn't always eat breakfast and a couple times a week I was cooking up poached eggs with bacon on toast and topped with hollandaise. Tasty, but really not good at all.

I've lost maybe 5 kilos of weight in the past 3 months, but I've also gained some muscle so I can't say how much fat I've lost, but I've certainly had quite a lot of positive comments from friends as to how I'm looking better. Main thing for me is I feel a lot better and my clothes are fitting me like they used to.

But now I've got the hunger for more, and I want to get into the best shape of my life. My brother told me tonight one of his mates just moved to Brisbane and recently got his qualifications as a personal trainer. Said he's really muscled up and would be glad to give me some pointers in the right direction. So it's looking pretty good for this year I feel
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Jaekus wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

I used to but it was too much sometimes. So now I eat about half. That's approx 30g in a meal, for half a 300g breast (bearing in mind chicken is about 20-22% protein by weight). I can see why you'd eat three at a time.
How many meals do you eat a day, and what do you eat?
My diet has gone to shit this past week (going to a festival, out to dinner, eating on the run etc doesn't help at all) but generally I'll try to eat 5 meals a day.

Usually I'll have rolled oats with protein powder for brekky, or I'll have 3 egg whites and a yolk with low fat cheese on toast.

Snack will often be a protein bar (45 grams of protein).

Lunch will often be a turkey breast sandwich with tomato and light cheese on wholemeal or soy & linseed bread.

On workout days I'll have 3 shakes (I include the one with the oats at breafast), with one an hour before workout and another immediately post workout. On non workout days I'll have 2 shakes.

Dinner will either be steak or chicken (usually) with salad or steamed vegetables.


I've been trying to lose weight though but now I've decided to gain some bulk (my plan has been to lose some fat this month, try to bulk a bit in Feb and go from there as to how I feel my progress is going), so I'm going to eat more and have an extra shake each day too.
Thats not too bad, not too bad at all
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam
1: a cup of oats with milk, a banana and a glass of milk for breakfast
2: Half a scoop of whey shake between lunch and breakfast
3: 300g of chicken(sometimes with a peanut sauce), a banana and a glass of milk
(4 Sometimes i'll have a cup of rice
5: Dinner is always differents. not too high on fat, plenty of protein and carbs all around 700kcal
6: A whey shake with fruit in it (post workout)
7: peanuts

I drink 1L (1/4 gallon) of whole milk in total every day

Last edited by Kampframmer (2011-01-27 07:11:17)

Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam
lol smiley at the 4th meal, but you get the idea
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam
I'm trying to bulk clean, but I'm not really gaining any weight. So far i've lost some fat and replaced taht lost weight with some muscle, but i still weigh mostly the same
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5941|College Park, MD

Kmar wrote:

All that protein and fiber, you guys must be farting up something serious. .. I know I always do. They never smell though, which is disappointing.

You have to make a real effort to get the right amount of fiber in an American-on-the-go diet.
Yeah, I've been trying to eat lots of Kashi foods since they're so damn healthy and it's resulted in me being a human trumpet.
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Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7006|UK
chicken thighs are better tbh, more fat (which if you are eating healthily is a good thing.), basically the same amount of protein, cheaper, probably more tender.
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|6996|Scotland

Kampframmer wrote:

I'm trying to bulk clean, but I'm not really gaining any weight. So far i've lost some fat and replaced taht lost weight with some muscle, but i still weigh mostly the same
How much do you weigh, what is your training routine and how tall are you?
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Vilham wrote:

chicken thighs are better tbh, more fat (which if you are eating healthily is a good thing.), basically the same amount of protein, cheaper, probably more tender.
I prefer my little bits of chicken breats over huge chunks of chicken. And I am too lazy to cut it myself ever single day
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5418|Sydney

Kampframmer wrote:

I'm trying to bulk clean, but I'm not really gaining any weight. So far i've lost some fat and replaced taht lost weight with some muscle, but i still weigh mostly the same
My aim from now is to bulk clean too. Hopefully I can lose a little more fat whilst doing so. If this happens I'll be very pleased. Then I'll go on a semi-cut (nothing too extreme). Basically maintenance with the focus on burning fat. Here's hoping anyway. I'll give the bulking 6 weeks to 2 months and reassess the situation from there.

Last edited by Jaekus (2011-01-27 09:17:35)

Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Zimmer wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

I'm trying to bulk clean, but I'm not really gaining any weight. So far i've lost some fat and replaced taht lost weight with some muscle, but i still weigh mostly the same
How much do you weigh, what is your training routine and how tall are you?
1.82 (6ft)
~64kg (~140lbs) Ottermode. i know, i know...

Posted my training routine a few posts back. I can copy paste it if you dont want to go all the way back
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam
I want to start cutting around 70-75kg (150lbs or so). But I kinda stopped making progress (besides losing some fat and gaining some definition).
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam
A repost of my schedule:
mon: A
tue: B
thu:A
fri:B

A:
bench press
decline crunches
incline DB press
DB flyes
chinups
curls
pull downs
skull crushers
leg raise/chest dips superset

B:
squats
calf raises
OHP
front raises
lat raises
deadlifts
widegrip chinups
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5941|College Park, MD
Did 45 minutes on the elliptical, feels good man
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Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|6996|Scotland

Kampframmer wrote:

A repost of my schedule:
mon: A
tue: B
thu:A
fri:B

A:
bench press
decline crunches
incline DB press
DB flyes
chinups
curls
pull downs
skull crushers
leg raise/chest dips superset

B:
squats
calf raises
OHP
front raises
lat raises
deadlifts
widegrip chinups
Anything in that routine that is machine based - Bin it. Never use machines. Ever.

It's not a bad routine, but front raises and lat raises are relatively useless for making big/good shoulders. All they do is tone them. Replace them with Arnie press and Upright row.

You should remove curls and do barbell curl (I assume you meant DB curls when you said curls) because it'll do a better job.

Also, never do abs in between a workout, do them at the end. Remember that you need your core to be at its best throughout the workout, and if you tire out your abs, you will lose stability doing other exercises afterwards.
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+691|6530|Washington St.
grams and kilograms confooses me. stupid gringo system.

looks like I need to eat more chicken
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Zimmer wrote:

Kampframmer wrote:

A repost of my schedule:
mon: A
tue: B
thu:A
fri:B

A:
bench press
decline crunches
incline DB press
DB flyes
chinups
curls
pull downs
skull crushers
leg raise/chest dips superset

B:
squats
calf raises
OHP
front raises
lat raises
deadlifts
widegrip chinups
Anything in that routine that is machine based - Bin it. Never use machines. Ever.

It's not a bad routine, but front raises and lat raises are relatively useless for making big/good shoulders. All they do is tone them. Replace them with Arnie press and Upright row.

You should remove curls and do barbell curl (I assume you meant DB curls when you said curls) because it'll do a better job.

Also, never do abs in between a workout, do them at the end. Remember that you need your core to be at its best throughout the workout, and if you tire out your abs, you will lose stability doing other exercises afterwards.
they are bb curls, forget to mention it. The only machine i use is for the pull downs, and the only thing really similar are pull ups, and i already do those as well. The location of the ab exercises is not that often the same, in fact, i eventually often tur up doing them i the end because i forget about em. Could do the rows and arnies.

Thanks for the advice
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6564|New Haven, CT
Never use machines. Ever.
That seems a little simplistic.
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

nukchebi0 wrote:

Never use machines. Ever.
That seems a little simplistic.
Machine's do suck, but it's not like i'm one of those people that think that machine's are only there to hold you back.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5941|College Park, MD
What's wrong with machines?
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Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|6996|Scotland

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

What's wrong with machines?
They put your body into unnatural positions to do the exercises, they don't build muscle anywhere near as well and they only centralise on very specifics, never helping your core or other muscles surrounding the one you're working due to the specific and awkward movement caused by them.

As the machine stabilises you, it does part of the work for you, causing it to be a lot less effective than free weight exercises.

They put you into positions that you wouldn't be taking into real life, making them pretty stupid to use. There is no machine exercise that cannot be done with free weights, so why even use a machine?
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5941|College Park, MD
Thanks for the info.

So I'm trying to burn fat right now. Should I do lower intensity cardio or higher intensity cardio? Today I did those 45 minutes on the elliptical and I had my heart rate around 160BPM, and the machine said I burned 450 calories (I hear they're not that accurate but whatever). Some people are telling me that low intensity is better, and others say high intensity is king.

Thoughts?
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Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5082|Amsterdam

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Thanks for the info.

So I'm trying to burn fat right now. Should I do lower intensity cardio or higher intensity cardio? Today I did those 45 minutes on the elliptical and I had my heart rate around 160BPM, and the machine said I burned 450 calories (I hear they're not that accurate but whatever). Some people are telling me that low intensity is better, and others say high intensity is king.

Thoughts?
high intesity is what i would do, but cardio isn't exactly my field of expertise
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7006|UK
high intensity is far better at burning calories.

10 minutes of speed 15 > 30 minutes of 10

with high intensity your heart rate goes very high and even up to 30 minutes after the workout you will still be burning calories.

something like that...

Last edited by Vilham (2011-01-27 13:48:46)

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