I should move to Arizona.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
It was in a Frat house at FSU. This guy http://www.lookwhogotbusted.com/tallaha … elm-evan-c was showing off. Shot through girl (twin sister wasn't present) and upon exit it lodged in frat buddies wrist.-Sh1fty- wrote:
You should have seen the guy from Florida on Foxnews earlier today concerning some drunk guy who accidentally shot a girl at a party when he wanted to show off his "unloaded" rifle.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Florida is pushing for an open carry this year!!!!!
*I fucking love my State.
I don't know who he was but his arguments were pitiful, he was a total anti-gun POS. I hope he wasn't a senator, Governor, etc.
Guns & Alcohol don't go well together unless you're in australia and spotlighting kangaroos. Then its f'n fosters abound!
Dilbert_X wrote:
But crazy people intent on mass killings always pick guns, why is that?-Sh1fty- wrote:
Cars kill more people than guns do. Irresponsible people driving are more dangerous than irresponsible people with guns.
I'd say they're a great comparison.
owned by Shi1fty.-Sh1fty- wrote:
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I don't know DilDerp, ask this guy.
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Or he could have bought it from a friend no questions asked no background check.west-phoenix-az wrote:
In Arizona:Nic wrote:
I didnt catch this earlier, was his gun registered or not? and did he actually have it modified or not? If it was registered, then yep, failure of laws. If not... Also, if you have a registered fire arm, does it need to be inspected periodically in AZ? or anywhere in the states?
Firearm registration is not required
There is no waiting period to purchase a firearm
There are no "periodic firearm inspection"
If he purchased the firearm from a licensed dealer he needed to complete ATF form 4473 and pass a background check. If he completed the form correctly and passed the background check (it's a phone call, takes a couple minutes), he could pay for the firearm and leave with it then. The process takes less than 10 minutes. Compared to some other states it's
Fuck Israel
I wouldn't say in this case. The system totally failed here. Do you really think it should be so lax?west-phoenix-az wrote:
In Arizona:Nic wrote:
I didnt catch this earlier, was his gun registered or not? and did he actually have it modified or not? If it was registered, then yep, failure of laws. If not... Also, if you have a registered fire arm, does it need to be inspected periodically in AZ? or anywhere in the states?
Firearm registration is not required
There is no waiting period to purchase a firearm
There are no "periodic firearm inspection"
If he purchased the firearm from a licensed dealer he needed to complete ATF form 4473 and pass a background check. If he completed the form correctly and passed the background check (it's a phone call, takes a couple minutes), he could pay for the firearm and leave with it then. The process takes less than 10 minutes. Compared to some other states it's
Its only as long as sane, reasonable people try to buy guns... pretty sure that's not gonna happen.
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It's actually odd that in arizona there wasn't an other armed person there and no security.
Dem rally?cpt.fass1 wrote:
It's actually odd that in arizona there wasn't an other armed person there and no security.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Don't give a shit. I'm of the stature where people look at me when shit starts happening. I'm tired of worrying about if my gun is printing too much.lowing wrote:
On the contrary. Open carry makes you the target first. It draws unwanted and un-needed attention to you. Open carry has a greater chance of the opposite affect to the desired outcomeNic wrote:
I don't really see the point of concealed carry, you would think that an open carry would be enough to scare off most would be attackers. I always considered concealed carry to be something a would be hero would want.Stingray24 wrote:
We have open carry, but not concealed carry. Not for long, though. We got rid of our worthless liberal governor who vetoed concealed carry twice.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Not all Dems are anti gun also didn't he shot like 19 people? I have a couple of friends who live in Arizona and they both have an arsenal and I think it's easy to get open carry or conceal carry there.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Dem rally?cpt.fass1 wrote:
It's actually odd that in Arizona there wasn't an other armed person there and no security.
Thought there was security there, just security fail. But in their defense, it was a event that had been held before, multiple times, without incident. Also probably wouldn't be quite as well trained as say the presidents bodyguard.cpt.fass1 wrote:
It's actually odd that in arizona there wasn't an other armed person there and no security.
Also, there was an armed person, he just ran in after and tried to grab the gun from someone who had already taken the gun from the nutter.
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Sure, why restrict a citizen's access to a firearm to protect themselves? Case in point, woman puts restraining order on ex husband, applies to buy handgun, has to wait a week. Next day, ex husband shows up and stabs her to death. Oh but we "protected" society with a waiting period.Nic wrote:
I wouldn't say in this case. The system totally failed here. Do you really think it should be so lax?west-phoenix-az wrote:
In Arizona:Nic wrote:
I didnt catch this earlier, was his gun registered or not? and did he actually have it modified or not? If it was registered, then yep, failure of laws. If not... Also, if you have a registered fire arm, does it need to be inspected periodically in AZ? or anywhere in the states?
Firearm registration is not required
There is no waiting period to purchase a firearm
There are no "periodic firearm inspection"
If he purchased the firearm from a licensed dealer he needed to complete ATF form 4473 and pass a background check. If he completed the form correctly and passed the background check (it's a phone call, takes a couple minutes), he could pay for the firearm and leave with it then. The process takes less than 10 minutes. Compared to some other states it's
Its only as long as sane, reasonable people try to buy guns... pretty sure that's not gonna happen.
Given that she was pro gun... uhhh...DBBrinson1 wrote:
Dem rally?cpt.fass1 wrote:
It's actually odd that in arizona there wasn't an other armed person there and no security.
Case in point, what this thread is about.Stingray24 wrote:
Sure, why restrict a citizen's access to a firearm to protect themselves? Case in point, woman puts restraining order on ex husband, applies to buy handgun, has to wait a week. Next day, ex husband shows up and stabs her to death. Oh but we "protected" society with a waiting period.Nic wrote:
I wouldn't say in this case. The system totally failed here. Do you really think it should be so lax?west-phoenix-az wrote:
In Arizona:
Firearm registration is not required
There is no waiting period to purchase a firearm
There are no "periodic firearm inspection"
If he purchased the firearm from a licensed dealer he needed to complete ATF form 4473 and pass a background check. If he completed the form correctly and passed the background check (it's a phone call, takes a couple minutes), he could pay for the firearm and leave with it then. The process takes less than 10 minutes. Compared to some other states it's
Its only as long as sane, reasonable people try to buy guns... pretty sure that's not gonna happen.
I don't live there. But it would seem that apparently just because you can carry a gun doesn't mean the masses ran out and armed themselves. What a surprise. We need more gun control laws to stop those wacky law abiding fuckers from arming themselves to the teeth.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Not all Dems are anti gun also didn't he shot like 19 people? I have a couple of friends who live in Arizona and they both have an arsenal and I think it's easy to get open carry or conceal carry there.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Dem rally?cpt.fass1 wrote:
It's actually odd that in Arizona there wasn't an other armed person there and no security.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
CWP holders in FL don't have a "cooling off period"Stingray24 wrote:
Sure, why restrict a citizen's access to a firearm to protect themselves? Case in point, woman puts restraining order on ex husband, applies to buy handgun, has to wait a week. Next day, ex husband shows up and stabs her to death. Oh but we "protected" society with a waiting period.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I'll be the first to say, our police force is more concerned about issuing out tickets to float their budgets then actually protecting. The crime rate is already on the raise and I think last year cops getting shot raised 364%
Rambo thing ? plus Instant National Celebrity Status, All these people want to be seen and heard.Dilbert_X wrote:
But crazy people intent on mass killings always pick guns, why is that?-Sh1fty- wrote:
Cars kill more people than guns do. Irresponsible people driving are more dangerous than irresponsible people with guns.
I'd say they're a great comparison.
They all " Have a very special story to tell. " They all get their wish too.
When people used to Run on the Field during NFL AFL games to get on " The TUBE " they countered by Never showing / Televising their actions. Problem solved ~ Rarely happens anymore. I can count about three times. Used to be quite common.
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Hunter/Jumper wrote:
When people used to Run on the Field during NFL AFL games to get on " The TUBE " they countered by Never showing / Televising their actions. Problem solved ~ Rarely happens anymore. I can count about three times. Used to be quite common.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
that is definitely your prerogative, I simply choose to fly under the radar as much as I canDBBrinson1 wrote:
Don't give a shit. I'm of the stature where people look at me when shit starts happening. I'm tired of worrying about if my gun is printing too much.lowing wrote:
On the contrary. Open carry makes you the target first. It draws unwanted and un-needed attention to you. Open carry has a greater chance of the opposite affect to the desired outcomeNic wrote:
I don't really see the point of concealed carry, you would think that an open carry would be enough to scare off most would be attackers. I always considered concealed carry to be something a would be hero would want.
99% of Americans will never concede the point that guns are unnecessary. We're used to freedom. You're used to living under the thumb of kings and queens who throughout your history have disarmed you in order to cow you. For some reason you've gotten it into your head to place your life in the hands of disarmed police to defend you against armed intruders. It's laughable and completely naive.presidentsheep wrote:
I think there are less of those people than you believe there to be.lowing wrote:
I am not out to solve all possible scenarios, I am out to have the means to defend my own little part of this world from those that wish to rob me of it.presidentsheep wrote:
Not really, i'm trying to point out that sometimes its not instantly obvious who's responsible for what. You can't pick and choose who lives, that should ultimately in these sort of situations by up to your country's system of law.
I know you're never going to concede the point that guns are unnecessary, i'm just trying to make you see that there's some massive grey areas where it comes to taking a life.
As for shifty, i'm not even going to dignify that with a proper response.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
you made my point Thanks, You will notice that was Home Video and not Netwok TV.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Hunter/Jumper wrote:
When people used to Run on the Field during NFL AFL games to get on " The TUBE " they countered by Never showing / Televising their actions. Problem solved ~ Rarely happens anymore. I can count about three times. Used to be quite common.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqtPUhYdz6M
Cops aren't there to protect you. They're there to clean up the mess. Every American has the right to defend their own lives and those of their family if they are threatened on their own property. This is as it should be.
The only people who should be crying about the situation are would-be criminals.
The only people who should be crying about the situation are would-be criminals.
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
According to an interview with a guy on the scene - Zalmudio - he came pretty close to drawing his gun on the person holding the Glock after disarming Loughner.
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Pretty close... Holy Shit. He almost drew down upon running into a massacre scene... Really? Spotlights and Kangaroos.Dilbert_X wrote:
According to an interview with a guy on the scene - Zalmudio - he came pretty close to drawing his gun on the person holding the Glock after disarming Loughner.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
6'3 never goes under the radar... Don't get me wrong. I don't tuck in my shirt so it I'd be about 1/2 conceal. Just tired of hiding a fucking constitutional right.lowing wrote:
that is definitely your prerogative, I simply choose to fly under the radar as much as I canDBBrinson1 wrote:
Don't give a shit. I'm of the stature where people look at me when shit starts happening. I'm tired of worrying about if my gun is printing too much.lowing wrote:
On the contrary. Open carry makes you the target first. It draws unwanted and un-needed attention to you. Open carry has a greater chance of the opposite affect to the desired outcome
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Nearly drew on an innocent party, duh....DBBrinson1 wrote:
Pretty close... Holy Shit. He almost drew down upon running into a massacre scene... Really? Spotlights and Kangaroos.Dilbert_X wrote:
According to an interview with a guy on the scene - Zalmudio - he came pretty close to drawing his gun on the person holding the Glock after disarming Loughner.
Fuck Israel