lolpresidentsheep wrote:
see. this is exactly the sort of situation i'm trying to save lowing from.Lotta_Drool wrote:
but, let's say she is just a little psyco and a lot hot like heather locklear in her prime and she is all like " stop the bleeding on the inside of my thigh, just slide your hand up my mini-skirt. You are so hot, I love a man that can shoot his gun" and you are all like " but first I need to know if you aren't too pysco to give oral " and she is all like " I am just having a bad day because of a bad break up and I'm kinda down right now, but you are making me feel better. and oh I love to give oral " then would you really be all like " no pysco bitch, you must die because I shoot you in a hypathetical situation dreamed up by presidentsheep on bf2s.com" then she would definately think you are gay and be dead and a normal guy like me would never get a chance to bang those sweet creamy thighs =0 so don't be a dick.lowing wrote:
disagree the last thing this world needs is a plus 1 psycho bitch when we coulda been a minus 1 psycho bitch legally
presidentsheep, please don't judge all Americans by Sh1fty.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Guess which bunch of morons allow that to happen?presidentsheep wrote:
There's something fucked up about your country then.
Those who want to ban guns, allow homosexuality, support abortion, live on welfare, get paid more to sit in offices and make bullshit rules than those fighting and dying for their country.
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dude there is something wrong with you, I agree with sheep, you should have no gun.lowing wrote:
lol yeah but.......if she JUST died......Lotta_Drool wrote:
but, let's say she is just a little psyco and a lot hot like heather locklear in her prime and she is all like " stop the bleeding on the inside of my thigh, just slide your hand up my mini-skirt. You are so hot, I love a man that can shoot his gun" and you are all like " but first I need to know if you aren't too pysco to give oral " and she is all like " I am just having a bad day because of a bad break up and I'm kinda down right now, but you are making me feel better. and oh I love to give oral " then would you really be all like " no pysco bitch, you must die because I shoot you in a hypathetical situation dreamed up by presidentsheep on bf2s.com" then she would definately think you are gay and be dead and a normal guy like me would never get a chance to bang those sweet creamy thighs =0 so don't be a dick.lowing wrote:
disagree the last thing this world needs is a plus 1 psycho bitch when we coulda been a minus 1 psycho bitch legally
Fine, let's just agree we have different ideas on how to deal with it.lowing wrote:
gee!! ya think?presidentsheep wrote:
There's something fucked up about your country then.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Yeah you should look at MacBeth instead, he's a wholesome fellow, we should all follow his example.Macbeth wrote:
presidentsheep, please don't judge all Americans by Shi1fty please.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Guess which bunch of morons allow that to happen?presidentsheep wrote:
There's something fucked up about your country then.
Those who want to ban guns, allow homosexuality, support abortion, live on welfare, get paid more to sit in offices and make bullshit rules than those fighting and dying for their country.
IIRC you were talking trash about your GF the other day (like more than a year ago or smth) and talking about cheating on her or smth. Might not have been you.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
It looks like you're trying to craft that perfect situation where someone would have to say 'gee, you're right! shooting them was a bad idea!', but what you don't understand is that lowing is advocating responsible gun use, and that does NOT include indiscriminately shooting people. If a person shoots an innocent, then they have to pay the price for that. If someone is clearly a threat to lives of you and your family, then it really isn't a question anymore, is it?presidentsheep wrote:
Let me add more detail to my hypothetical situation then:
You've shot the guy (or hot chick, your choice), they're immobilised by this gunshot to the extent that they are not going to be able to get up and keep shooting.
You're saying you wouldn't stop them from bleeding to death until an ambulance arrived, despite having no clue as to if they're mentally ill or even potentially just another person who was carrying a gun and had to come to intervene?
QFTSenorToenails wrote:
It looks like you're trying to craft that perfect situation where someone would have to say 'gee, you're right! shooting them was a bad idea!', but what you don't understand is that lowing is advocating responsible gun use, and that does NOT include indiscriminately shooting people. If a person shoots an innocent, then they have to pay the price for that. If someone is clearly a threat to lives of you and your family, then it really isn't a question anymore, is it?presidentsheep wrote:
Let me add more detail to my hypothetical situation then:
You've shot the guy (or hot chick, your choice), they're immobilised by this gunshot to the extent that they are not going to be able to get up and keep shooting.
You're saying you wouldn't stop them from bleeding to death until an ambulance arrived, despite having no clue as to if they're mentally ill or even potentially just another person who was carrying a gun and had to come to intervene?
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Let me guess shifty... You're "pro life" But also pro gun and pro death penalty.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Yeah you should look at MacBeth instead, he's a wholesome fellow, we should all follow his example.Macbeth wrote:
presidentsheep, please don't judge all Americans by Shi1fty please.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Guess which bunch of morons allow that to happen?
Those who want to ban guns, allow homosexuality, support abortion, live on welfare, get paid more to sit in offices and make bullshit rules than those fighting and dying for their country.
IIRC you were talking trash about your GF the other day (like more than a year ago or smth) and talking about cheating on her or smth. Might not have been you.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
How does this have anything to do with the discussion?-Sh1fty- wrote:
Guess which bunch of morons allow that to happen?presidentsheep wrote:
There's something fucked up about your country then.
Those who want to ban guns, allow homosexuality, support abortion, live on welfare, get paid more to sit in offices and make bullshit rules than those fighting and dying for their country.
and you should be shot if you actually took me seriouslyLotta_Drool wrote:
dude there is something wrong with you, I agree with sheep, you should have no gun.lowing wrote:
lol yeah but.......if she JUST died......Lotta_Drool wrote:
but, let's say she is just a little psyco and a lot hot like heather locklear in her prime and she is all like " stop the bleeding on the inside of my thigh, just slide your hand up my mini-skirt. You are so hot, I love a man that can shoot his gun" and you are all like " but first I need to know if you aren't too pysco to give oral " and she is all like " I am just having a bad day because of a bad break up and I'm kinda down right now, but you are making me feel better. and oh I love to give oral " then would you really be all like " no pysco bitch, you must die because I shoot you in a hypathetical situation dreamed up by presidentsheep on bf2s.com" then she would definately think you are gay and be dead and a normal guy like me would never get a chance to bang those sweet creamy thighs =0 so don't be a dick.
I want to go psyco and shoot up a rally full of presidentsheep, then twist my ankle while leaving to have one of them that I just grazed come over and help me with my twisted ankle.presidentsheep wrote:
Fine, let's just agree we have different ideas on how to deal with it.lowing wrote:
gee!! ya think?presidentsheep wrote:
There's something fucked up about your country then.
Don't really trust youtube "facts" sorry. Anyway, is that the total number of car accidents in that stat or people who have been intentionally going around running people down?Lotta_Drool wrote:
However will you rectify items that can save OR kill peope. Drugs, needles, plastic bags, cars..........Nic wrote:
My point is, I can think of a long list of things that I would need before a gun.lowing wrote:
fire extinguisher......yes
life jacket? only when we go boating
first aid kit....I have kids so that is a must.
You seem to be prepared, Do you have the training to help save people after this gun fight is over?
Are people allowed to have them? Take away a psyco's gun and give him a 72 buick to drive through the crowd instead?
pysco's kill 120,386% more people in the US each year with cars vs guns. That is a fact. Youtube it.
By the same argument, we could outlaw stairs, because you can push people down them, or we could make it legal to own tanks, attack helicopters, or jets or destroyers, because you could use it to defend yourself.
A car can get you to work, to get groceries, to the movies, to your kids soccer game. A gun can do none of this unless you plan on hijacking somebody with a car.
Not really, i'm trying to point out that sometimes its not instantly obvious who's responsible for what. You can't pick and choose who lives, that should ultimately in these sort of situations by up to your country's system of law.SenorToenails wrote:
It looks like you're trying to craft that perfect situation where someone would have to say 'gee, you're right! shooting them was a bad idea!', but what you don't understand is that lowing is advocating responsible gun use, and that does NOT include indiscriminately shooting people. If a person shoots an innocent, then they have to pay the price for that. If someone is clearly a threat to lives of you and your family, then it really isn't a question anymore, is it?presidentsheep wrote:
Let me add more detail to my hypothetical situation then:
You've shot the guy (or hot chick, your choice), they're immobilised by this gunshot to the extent that they are not going to be able to get up and keep shooting.
You're saying you wouldn't stop them from bleeding to death until an ambulance arrived, despite having no clue as to if they're mentally ill or even potentially just another person who was carrying a gun and had to come to intervene?
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
ahhhh a breath of fresh air...thank youSenorToenails wrote:
It looks like you're trying to craft that perfect situation where someone would have to say 'gee, you're right! shooting them was a bad idea!', but what you don't understand is that lowing is advocating responsible gun use, and that does NOT include indiscriminately shooting people. If a person shoots an innocent, then they have to pay the price for that. If someone is clearly a threat to lives of you and your family, then it really isn't a question anymore, is it?presidentsheep wrote:
Let me add more detail to my hypothetical situation then:
You've shot the guy (or hot chick, your choice), they're immobilised by this gunshot to the extent that they are not going to be able to get up and keep shooting.
You're saying you wouldn't stop them from bleeding to death until an ambulance arrived, despite having no clue as to if they're mentally ill or even potentially just another person who was carrying a gun and had to come to intervene?
Yeppresidentsheep wrote:
Let me guess shifty... You're "pro life" But also pro gun and pro death penalty.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Yeah you should look at MacBeth instead, he's a wholesome fellow, we should all follow his example.Macbeth wrote:
presidentsheep, please don't judge all Americans by Shi1fty please.
IIRC you were talking trash about your GF the other day (like more than a year ago or smth) and talking about cheating on her or smth. Might not have been you.
You see, when sperm and an egg come together, that's life. Abortion gets rid of that life, you're killing something that's living, you're killing a human being in it's earliest stage of life.
Yeah, we need guns, for fun and for defense. Skeet shooting is awesome, and that guy who wants to steal my wallet either needs to GTFO or take a round.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
I am not out to solve all possible scenarios, I am out to have the means to defend my own little part of this world from those that wish to rob me of it.presidentsheep wrote:
Not really, i'm trying to point out that sometimes its not instantly obvious who's responsible for what. You can't pick and choose who lives, that should ultimately in these sort of situations by up to your country's system of law.SenorToenails wrote:
It looks like you're trying to craft that perfect situation where someone would have to say 'gee, you're right! shooting them was a bad idea!', but what you don't understand is that lowing is advocating responsible gun use, and that does NOT include indiscriminately shooting people. If a person shoots an innocent, then they have to pay the price for that. If someone is clearly a threat to lives of you and your family, then it really isn't a question anymore, is it?presidentsheep wrote:
Let me add more detail to my hypothetical situation then:
You've shot the guy (or hot chick, your choice), they're immobilised by this gunshot to the extent that they are not going to be able to get up and keep shooting.
You're saying you wouldn't stop them from bleeding to death until an ambulance arrived, despite having no clue as to if they're mentally ill or even potentially just another person who was carrying a gun and had to come to intervene?
Just stop posting.-Sh1fty- wrote:
that guy who wants to steal my wallet either needs to GTFO or take a round.
Fuck Israel
No one advocated vigilante justice here. Only self-defense.presidentsheep wrote:
Not really, i'm trying to point out that sometimes its not instantly obvious who's responsible for what. You can't pick and choose who lives, that should ultimately in these sort of situations by up to your country's system of law.
but a gun can be used to hunt deer, shoot cans, defend property, defend lives, look cool, intimidate liberal.........Nic wrote:
Don't really trust youtube "facts" sorry. Anyway, is that the total number of car accidents in that stat or people who have been intentionally going around running people down?Lotta_Drool wrote:
However will you rectify items that can save OR kill peope. Drugs, needles, plastic bags, cars..........Nic wrote:
My point is, I can think of a long list of things that I would need before a gun.
You seem to be prepared, Do you have the training to help save people after this gun fight is over?
Are people allowed to have them? Take away a psyco's gun and give him a 72 buick to drive through the crowd instead?
pysco's kill 120,386% more people in the US each year with cars vs guns. That is a fact. Youtube it.
By the same argument, we could outlaw stairs, because you can push people down them, or we could make it legal to own tanks, attack helicopters, or jets or destroyers, because you could use it to defend yourself.
A car can get you to work, to get groceries, to the movies, to your kids soccer game. A gun can do none of this unless you plan on hijacking somebody with a car.
can't do those things with a pencil sharpener.
Oh, I thought it was self-evident. Guess not.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I've grown up around guns my entire life. I'm extremely safety conscious, I've never had any accidents with weapons or found a loaded weapon when it should have been empty.Nic wrote:
You are probably the last person I would ever want holding a gun to protect me. A prime example of why people should not have them.-Sh1fty- wrote:
If they ban guns the bad fellas will get a hold of them and you'll be fucked being the nice little law abiding citizen.
We need guns for protection.
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Why on earth wouldn't you want me to have a weapon to defend myself? You provided no reasoning whatsoever behind your claim that I'm an example of people who shouldn't own weapons.
Your argument is built on fail and supported by nothing.
By this, I mean I think the "Hero boy" complex you have displayed in these forum, most likely from playing video games and to much hollywood. Would make you more likely to cause the situation to come to a point where you could prove yourself a hero, thereby endangering everyone around you. I don't think you have sound judgement in this area because you would want to be the guy who save everyone, instead of being the guy who is put in the situation and does what is needed.
And lowing, you may have missed this:
Nic wrote:
I mean, anybody else who may have been injured. If you're likely to get into a situation where you need to save lives with your gun. You're likely to find it just as helpful to know how to stabilize an injured person (see innocent bystander) to save their life after the shooting has stopped, assuming you are still alive.lowing wrote:
you mean save the guy that I shot? nope, don't want him saved, it is why I would have shot him.Nic wrote:
My point is, I can think of a long list of things that I would need before a gun.
You seem to be prepared, Do you have the training to help save people after this gun fight is over?
Contribute to the discussion or GTFO.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just stop posting.-Sh1fty- wrote:
that guy who wants to steal my wallet either needs to GTFO or take a round.
So Dilbert, here's two scenarios.
#1 - You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. What do you do?
#0 -2 You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. You have a pistol on you. What do you do?
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
I think there are less of those people than you believe there to be.lowing wrote:
I am not out to solve all possible scenarios, I am out to have the means to defend my own little part of this world from those that wish to rob me of it.presidentsheep wrote:
Not really, i'm trying to point out that sometimes its not instantly obvious who's responsible for what. You can't pick and choose who lives, that should ultimately in these sort of situations by up to your country's system of law.SenorToenails wrote:
It looks like you're trying to craft that perfect situation where someone would have to say 'gee, you're right! shooting them was a bad idea!', but what you don't understand is that lowing is advocating responsible gun use, and that does NOT include indiscriminately shooting people. If a person shoots an innocent, then they have to pay the price for that. If someone is clearly a threat to lives of you and your family, then it really isn't a question anymore, is it?
I know you're never going to concede the point that guns are unnecessary, i'm just trying to make you see that there's some massive grey areas where it comes to taking a life.
As for shifty, i'm not even going to dignify that with a proper response.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Either situation you give the man your wallet. Material goods aren't worth either of you dying over.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Contribute to the discussion or GTFO.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just stop posting.-Sh1fty- wrote:
that guy who wants to steal my wallet either needs to GTFO or take a round.
So Dilbert, here's two scenarios.
#1 - You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. What do you do?
#0 -2 You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. You have a pistol on you. What do you do?
true, but if you can save the guy only for your state to choose to give them the death penalty than I see that as morally better than letting them die, despite it having the same outcomeSenorToenails wrote:
No one advocated vigilante justice here. Only self-defense.presidentsheep wrote:
Not really, i'm trying to point out that sometimes its not instantly obvious who's responsible for what. You can't pick and choose who lives, that should ultimately in these sort of situations by up to your country's system of law.
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I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
dildobert is on it now.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just stop posting.-Sh1fty- wrote:
that guy who wants to steal my wallet either needs to GTFO or take a round.
Doesn't hurt to kill the guy who wants the wallet stolen. Not like he is gonna accomplish anything with stealing your wallet except buy stuff.
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The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.