BF2S Forums illegal immigrants sue AZ rancher, (and will probably win)

JohnG@lt wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

I was unaware of that the jury decides.

Mexican illegal jury

Do you recognize that you're brainwashed and you're cool with it or are you still in denial?

Yeah the Swiss education system does tend to do that.

Yeah, yeah. Haven't eaten since yesterday. To be shortly remedied with...

PINEAPPLE PIZZA!

I edited that twice.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2011-01-10 19:30:45)

west-phoenix-az wrote:

http://ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=1084617

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Barnett claims to have turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998 after his property was destroyed and cattle were killed.
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"Roger Barnett has been involved in actually trying to stop vehicles with people who he suspected were not legal," Potok said. "The man has leased 22,000 acres from the state and federal government.... He drives across this huge piece of land looking for people to stop at gunpoint.
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Glenn Spencer with the American Border Patrol said he considers Barnett "an American hero."
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The current trial is not Barnett's first venture into federal court. In November 2006, a jury found that he had falsely imprisoned members of a Douglas family and ordered him to pay nearly $100,000 in damages.

He's my new hero

AussieReaper wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Yeah, yeah. Haven't eaten since yesterday. To be shortly remedied with...

PINEAPPLE PIZZA!

I edited that twice.

This isn't EE chats.

Send me a list of posts to delete and maybe I'll clean up this necrothread.

stay in there, Shifty - fight the good fight!

AussieReaper wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Did you even read that last one?

We all make mistakes in life.

But darn you're good, how did you know I didn't read that last one? I need to read more and stop TL;DRing.

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So I'm actually contributing to your speed reading? You owe me karma or something for being such a nice fellow "forumer." Nah I kid I kid, it's charity.

He thought they were illegal. I'm sure he isn't stupid enough to imprison somebody if they whip out their US ID or driver's license.

Give the guy a break, for 12,000 he mistakes 1 family.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Nic wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

HAHAHA

you assholes go on about how I should respect the dead and you trash the thread of somebody who actually contributed to the U.S.

Yet you can assume that a Judge that the only thing you know about, is one thing he did that you didnt like, and that he was murdered, did nothing for the U.S.

If he's sticking up for something that stupid, I doubt his past is any better.

Think about it for a second. Somebody who isn't even supposed to be in this country gets denounced. So he sues the man. That's like somebody who shouldn't be in your home being arrested for trespassing and suing you for reporting him.

And the fact that the guy was an obvious radical who had falsely imprisoned American citizens as well means what?

Also: In reference to his death:

"Other plaudits came from Senator John McCain, who had recommended Roll for appointment to the federal bench; from Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik; and from Bishop Gerald Kicanas of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Tucson, who noted that Roll was an active parishioner who "lived his faith". Chief Judge Alex Kozinski of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, whose jurisdiction includes Arizona, stated that "Judge Roll was a widely respected jurist, a strong and able leader of his court, and a kind, courteous and sincere gentleman". President Barack Obama commented on Roll's death in his statement issued after the shooting, noting that Roll "served America's legal system for almost 40 years".

source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCarthy_Roll

So, you are glad one christian has died, but you assuming Mr. Winters was Christian was good enough to merit inclusion with "war hero" in his lifes accomplishments.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

He thought they were illegal. I'm sure he isn't stupid enough to imprison somebody if they whip out their US ID or driver's license.

Give the guy a break, for 12,000 he mistakes 1 family.

"Better to let 10 guilty men go free than to imprison a single innocent man"

a sentiment shared by folks like Ben Franklin

"Better to imprison 10 innocent men than to let 1 guilty man go free"

a sentiment shared by folks like Pol Pot

Nic wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

He thought they were illegal. I'm sure he isn't stupid enough to imprison somebody if they whip out their US ID or driver's license.

Give the guy a break, for 12,000 he mistakes 1 family.

Yeah, I'm sure the family did nothing to convince him they were Americans...

The guys goes on his land to find illegals. If they were on his land and had no ID to prove they were U.S. I'm sure you can understand his confusion.

I could walk across the Mexican border into his place with my Swiss ID, speak perfect English and do you think they'd believe me? lol

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Nic wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

He thought they were illegal. I'm sure he isn't stupid enough to imprison somebody if they whip out their US ID or driver's license.

Give the guy a break, for 12,000 he mistakes 1 family.

Yeah, I'm sure the family did nothing to convince him they were Americans...

The guys goes on his land to find illegals. If they were on his land and had no ID to prove they were U.S. I'm sure you can understand his confusion.

I could walk across the Mexican border into his place with my Swiss ID, speak perfect English and do you think they'd believe me? lol

From the incident:

On Oct. 30, 2004, Ronald Morales and his father, Arturo, were deer hunting with Ronald's two daughters, who were 11 and 9 at the time, and another 11-year-old girl. All members of the family are Mexican-Americans born in the United States.

Barnett spotted the family's pickup truck through binoculars and radioed his brother, Donald, asking him to investigate. Ronald Morales and one of his daughters were still out hunting when Donald Barnett made contact with others in the party at their truck, informed them they were on Barnett property and asked them to leave.

By the time Ronald Morales and his daughter returned to the truck, Roger Barnett had arrived and was, by all accounts, livid.

According to witness testimony, Roger Barnett erupted in flurry of profanities and racial epithets, calling the two men and three young girls dirty, ignorant Mexicans. When Ronald Morales asked, "What is your name, sir?" Roger Barnett marched over to his truck, and pulled out an AR-15 assault rifle.

"He said, 'My f---ing name is Roger Barnett. If you don't get off my property, I'm gonna shoot you and shoot you and shoot you,' " Morales testified.

"When I heard the bullet chamber I knew then that we were really in trouble. All he had to do was pull that trigger and spray us."

According to a psychiatrist who testified at the trial, all three children suffer from chronic Post Traumatic Stress Disorder as a result of the encounter. The lawsuit sought punitive damages for negligence, false imprisonment and emotional distress.

Source:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/n … sored-suit

You're right shifty, hes a true hero.

The guy doesn't conduct himself appropriately.

They still shouldn't have been on his land hunting. I'm not trying to defend the manner with which the man confronted the family.

I don't dislike Muslims or Catholics in general.