Poll

What is the most disturbing?

That the leaks happened34%34% - 16
Suspicions of corruption in the Afghan government2%2% - 1
A global computer hacking effort by China10%10% - 5
Saudis remain the chief financiers of Sunni militants4%4% - 2
Vladimir Putangs relationship with Silvio Berluscon2%2% - 1
US failing to prevent Syria giving arms to Hezbollah0%0% - 0
US sharply warned Germany to not arrest CIA agents17%17% - 8
Obama admin struggling to sort out Pakistani partners0%0% - 0
Yemen cover up American missile strikes6%6% - 3
Qaddafi hooking up with a Ukrainian Blonde nurse21%21% - 10
Total: 46
Kmar
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he just comes off as a creeper more then anything else.
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Kmar wrote:

bond villains did not have faces that looked like three week old meat loaf. .. that i remember.
Doesn't mean that they can't. Remember, Bond movies had all sorts.

e:
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(I'll stop derailing your thread now )
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Quite probably, especially at the UN and between countries other than the US if the level of spying is to be believed.
Diplomats won't be surprised at "the level of spying". Not at all. It's not spying. It's called fucking diplomacy. It's what diplomats fucking do. For every country on the globe. They engage with other diplomats then report back to their government their unvarnished views on their interactions so their governments can make judgments on how to engage with those other countries.

Fuck sakes, is it really that hard to understand?
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I'm talking about Hilary Clinton's instructions to spy on allies and enemies alike, bug calls, gather passwords, biometric data and so on.

Understand now?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

I'm talking about Hilary Clinton's instructions to spy on allies and enemies alike, bug calls, gather passwords, biometric data and so on.

Understand now?
And you don't think that is standard practice worldwide? Lol.
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most shocking to me is
Dilbert_X
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

I'm talking about Hilary Clinton's instructions to spy on allies and enemies alike, bug calls, gather passwords, biometric data and so on.

Understand now?
And you don't think that is standard practice worldwide? Lol.
Its not normal diplomacy, if it were the US wouldn't expect their diplomatic cables would remain secret.

And no its not standard practice for allies to spy on each other.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-12-02 19:58:38)

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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

I'm talking about Hilary Clinton's instructions to spy on allies and enemies alike, bug calls, gather passwords, biometric data and so on.

Understand now?
And you don't think that is standard practice worldwide? Lol.
Its not normal diplomacy, if it were the US wouldn't expect their diplomatic cables would remain secret.

And no its not standard practice for allies to spy on each other.
Shrug, believe whatever you want to believe.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

And no its not standard practice for allies to spy on each other.
now i know your a troll . . .
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Sexy blonde nurse action fo shiz.
everything i write is a ramble and should not be taken seriously.... seriously.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

believe whatever you want to believe.
Whatever, the way the US conducts itself is not the way all other nations do.
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Dilbert was molested by an American as a child.
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I don't screw crackwhores though - whats your excuse?
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So the site got shut down. Provider got sick of all the attacks.
Kmar
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couldn't find the owner.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

I'm talking about Hilary Clinton's instructions to spy on allies and enemies alike, bug calls, gather passwords, biometric data and so on.

Understand now?
And you don't think that is standard practice worldwide? Lol.
Its not normal diplomacy, if it were the US wouldn't expect their diplomatic cables would remain secret.

And no its not standard practice for allies to spy on each other.
Yes. It is.

Why do you think diplomatic pouches aren't allowed to be searched?

Other nations' diplomatic cables are secret, as well.

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

believe whatever you want to believe.
Whatever, the way the US conducts itself is not the way all other nations do.
Yes. It is. For fuck sake, Dilbert. It fucking is. That is the whole fucking point here.
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Please provide an example of Britain or Australia spying on the US then.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Please provide an example of Britain or Australia spying on the US then.
As soon as Assange gets a hard-on for them, gladly.
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So in the last hundred years or so, you can't find a single example, while the US is spying on anyone and everyone (and Israel is merrily spying on its only ally - the US).
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So in the last hundred years or so, you can't find a single example, while the US is spying on anyone and everyone (and Israel is merrily spying on its only ally - the US).
Why don't you request that your government unclassify it's diplomatic cables then? I'm sure everything is on the up and up.
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Again, I'm talking about spying, not normal diplomatic activity.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Again, I'm talking about spying, not normal diplomatic activity.
What is it you think diplomacy is? Making nice and chatting over tea? That's maybe 1/10th of it.
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-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
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Normal diplomatic activity includes intelligence gathering.

It does not include bugging phones, stealing encryption keys etc, that is spying.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Normal diplomatic activity includes intelligence gathering.

It does not include bugging phones, stealing encryption keys etc, that is spying.
Sounds like intelligence gathering to me.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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