Poll

TSA Screening to see ya naked

Accept fate and proceed through body scanner22%22% - 12
Opt out for pat down26%26% - 14
Express discontent and proceed through scanner5%5% - 3
Opt out for pat down after making self hard.22%22% - 12
Leave the airport sans screening, take ship down under5%5% - 3
Other5%5% - 3
FU Brinson11%11% - 6
Total: 53
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7094|Marathon, Florida Keys
Let them pat me down and say "Im all yours big boy" with the creepiest smile i could make.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6978
Pat myself down, go through scanner hard.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6415|North Tonawanda, NY

Turquoise wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

It's not bullshit.  Shit happens.  All that matters is how you react to it.  I'm not really sure why we're arguing when we both agree that the TSA is overkill.
Turquoise, you use that 'it will happen again' reasoning as though it justifies something.  You can't prove there won't be another attack...so that does not imply that there will be one.  This is obviously faulty reasoning.
How many times do I have to post it?  Statistically, it will happen again -- it's very unlikely for something like 9/11 to occur again, but hijackings occur at a fairly periodic rate.  Considering the number of flights that occur annually and the variance in quality of security by airport, it's inevitable that more hijackings will occur.
You are misusing statistics.  That is why I keep objecting to your posts.  I'm not going to argue this any further, it's minute at this point.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,056|7057|PNW

.:ronin:.|Patton wrote:

Let them pat me down and say "Im all yours big boy" with the creepiest smile i could make.
You'd get slammed into the floor.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

Kmar wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

i aint gonna argue profiling but...you know
The underwear bomber was sweating and appeared very nervous .. to pick up on this and investigate is also profiling.
yes but he is mooslim then all the mooslims will cry and blah blah blah
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6696|'Murka

11 Bravo wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

If he would have been picked for the rub down.
well i assume he had some kind of wire/wick right?.
He was using a liquid initiator. No wire or wick.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Ticia
Member
+73|5620

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:

Just make their job easier and strip already.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZSEf_4F3jk&f
False advertising. There was no nudity!
Oh sorry Mr. G@lt, here just for you

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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/23/ts … te/?hpt=C1

Here's another look at TSA policies...

Polls have found a majority of Americans support the scans, though they aren't as supportive of the TSA pat downs.

A CBS News survey showed 81 percent of people polled approve of the use of full-body X-ray machines. A Washington Post/ABC News survey found 64 percent of people supported the use of the machines, while 32 percent were opposed. When it comes to the use of pat downs, respondents were practically split down the middle.  However, 37 percent of all Americans said they "feel strongly" that the pat downs are overly intrusive. Still 70 percent of Americans questioned in the Washington Post/ABC News poll said the new TSA rules made no difference in their decision to fly.


As I've mentioned before, I'm no fan of the policies, but there does seem to be an unmistakable amount of hysteria being generated by the media about them.  Ironically, the media was also part of the hysteria that helped create these policies after 9/11.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio
nobody i know cares and we use them more than most people
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6823|Long Island, New York

Turquoise wrote:

Still 70 percent of Americans questioned in the Washington Post/ABC News poll said the new TSA rules made no difference in their decision to fly.
Nor should it. It takes up 10 minutes of your fucking time. 10 minutes out of the most likely half an hour+ you're going to be waiting anyways for your flight to come in.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Poseidon wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Still 70 percent of Americans questioned in the Washington Post/ABC News poll said the new TSA rules made no difference in their decision to fly.
Nor should it. It takes up 10 minutes of your fucking time. 10 minutes out of the most likely half an hour+ you're going to be waiting anyways for your flight to come in.
Very true.  It puts screening somewhat in perspective.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6696|'Murka

And notice these new screening procedures were just recently implemented. That usually doesn't happen on a whim...and the pat downs aren't due to toner cartridges. My guess is TSA (and others) are acting on specific intel coming out of arrests following round-ups of the toner cartridge group.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6886|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Still 70 percent of Americans questioned in the Washington Post/ABC News poll said the new TSA rules made no difference in their decision to fly.
Nor should it. It takes up 10 minutes of your fucking time. 10 minutes out of the most likely half an hour+ you're going to be waiting anyways for your flight to come in.
Very true.  It puts screening somewhat in perspective.
Here is some perspectives. Less than 2% of fliers are pat down. You'd never know that by the amount of media generated around this.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
tuckergustav
...
+1,590|6199|...

FEOS wrote:

And notice these new screening procedures were just recently implemented. That usually doesn't happen on a whim...and the pat downs aren't due to toner cartridges. My guess is TSA (and others) are acting on specific intel coming out of arrests following round-ups of the toner cartridge group.
That sounds like a spoonful of whatever they are feeding us...

money is being made here...that's the bottom line...
...
13rin
Member
+977|6764
Either way.. You ain't grabbing my wife's boobs (or my junk). I plead the 4th.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6886|132 and Bush

tuckergustav wrote:

FEOS wrote:

And notice these new screening procedures were just recently implemented. That usually doesn't happen on a whim...and the pat downs aren't due to toner cartridges. My guess is TSA (and others) are acting on specific intel coming out of arrests following round-ups of the toner cartridge group.
That sounds like a spoonful of whatever they are feeding us...

money is being made here...that's the bottom line...
Chertoff (sp)  was was the ex secretary of homeland security.  He is now the head of the consulting company that has set the scanners up to be put in every airport. You can draw a near perfect line from fear to money bags.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:

And notice these new screening procedures were just recently implemented. That usually doesn't happen on a whim...and the pat downs aren't due to toner cartridges. My guess is TSA (and others) are acting on specific intel coming out of arrests following round-ups of the toner cartridge group.
Just trust the government, if they want to feel your stuff its in your interests, they always know whats best for you.
Fuck Israel
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6886|132 and Bush

Americans in general have a natural distrust in the government. It's evident throughout our entire history.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX
Just send out more Predator drones, maybe invade Pakistan, then you can dial airport security back to zero. Its win-win.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-11-24 04:17:35)

Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6696|'Murka

tuckergustav wrote:

FEOS wrote:

And notice these new screening procedures were just recently implemented. That usually doesn't happen on a whim...and the pat downs aren't due to toner cartridges. My guess is TSA (and others) are acting on specific intel coming out of arrests following round-ups of the toner cartridge group.
That sounds like a spoonful of whatever they are feeding us...

money is being made here...that's the bottom line...
The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Obama is not the only one who doesn't let a good crisis go to waste...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

Dilbert_X wrote:

Just send out more Predator drones, maybe invade Pakistan, then you can dial airport security back to zero. Its win-win.
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/51907/1236664538680300x273.jpg
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Kmar wrote:

tuckergustav wrote:

FEOS wrote:

And notice these new screening procedures were just recently implemented. That usually doesn't happen on a whim...and the pat downs aren't due to toner cartridges. My guess is TSA (and others) are acting on specific intel coming out of arrests following round-ups of the toner cartridge group.
That sounds like a spoonful of whatever they are feeding us...

money is being made here...that's the bottom line...
Chertoff (sp)  was was the ex secretary of homeland security.  He is now the head of the consulting company that has set the scanners up to be put in every airport. You can draw a near perfect line from fear to money bags.
Well, yeah, that's basically the same line that can be drawn for the War on Terror in general.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6886|132 and Bush

Always worth pointing out.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6696|'Murka

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:

tuckergustav wrote:


That sounds like a spoonful of whatever they are feeding us...

money is being made here...that's the bottom line...
Chertoff (sp)  was was the ex secretary of homeland security.  He is now the head of the consulting company that has set the scanners up to be put in every airport. You can draw a near perfect line from fear to money bags.
Well, yeah, that's basically the same line that can be drawn for the War on Terror in general.
Of course, it may be inconvenient to point out that they are doing those more intrusive pat downs at ALL airports...even those that don't have scanners.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

FEOS wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:


Chertoff (sp)  was was the ex secretary of homeland security.  He is now the head of the consulting company that has set the scanners up to be put in every airport. You can draw a near perfect line from fear to money bags.
Well, yeah, that's basically the same line that can be drawn for the War on Terror in general.
Of course, it may be inconvenient to point out that they are doing those more intrusive pat downs at ALL airports...even those that don't have scanners.
Well, I was referring more to war profiteering.  Granted, I'm not saying the War on Terror is without legitimacy.  It's just that war has always been extremely profitable for certain people.

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