Hmm.. I just watched the trailer for Incursion...
Are the introducing a whole new race or what's it all about?
Are the introducing a whole new race or what's it all about?
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
I have to say, that is quite a big problem with EVE, to get to the good stuff in the future you have to train, then train, then earn money, then train some more, etc. and it soon feels like you will never get there since skills will be taking months and weeks to train....Adams_BJ wrote:
Go out and kill shit. lots of shit. use tutorials for free shit. figure out what you wanna do and shit. train for it and shit. kill shit while training for shit and shit.CC-Marley wrote:
Downloading Eve now. Any suggestions?
The biggest problem I found with players was that they were bored so they trained for a new exciting thing, and found a new exciting thing so stopped playing while they trained for it. I just tell them to calm down and enjoy what they can do NOW, and then they actually start to enjoy. They spent too much time looking at all the things they couldn't do instead of the things they COULD.
I think I would enjoy the game much more if I were in more direct control of the ship... rather than clicking where I want to go/orbit/stay away from....FatherTed wrote:
well yeh, training for a titan etc SHOULD take aggeeeees, instant-gratification is zzzz. bear in mind a titan is worth about $4k, and is basically a flagship for your corp/alliance - they're not something to be taken lightly.
the 2nd point (playing loads and loads to get ahead) nope, not really true. being logged in wont make your skills tick over faster, and there's plenty of ways to make isk with little hands on time (someone in my corp makes 3bil-ish per week for 5minutes of market work for ex). the only benefit that someone logged in 23/7 could gain is practical experience at flying and such
also, ask yourself if you really REALLY want to be flying titans and capitals - the vast majority of pilots never bother. they 1)cost an assload 2)are slow and vunerable to basically everything 3)are very very specific tools. speccing for say, cruisers would take you no more than 3-6months to max out on one race, and you'd be welcome in practically any fleet going. ill be flying dreads next month, already can fly carriers but they barely ever get used.
And another thing I wonder if they have fixed...FatherTed wrote:
yeh lots of people want joystick input (myself included). in incursion they are adding a looooad of shortcut options tho, so i could say click a mouse side-button to enter into an approach, then rock onto another to pulse my mwd and open up the lasers. better, but still want joysticks
Hmm... I guess it just doesn't hit me I tend to like the ships for looks, not use.. derp...FatherTed wrote:
they have some waffle-backstory to get around that, but it is an immersion breaker no doubt.
for all its excel similarities though, this is the only game that i still get the shakes from post-fight
but that's the point im making, you don't have to train for months and months and months to have fun, you could have fun NOW. You're just too busy looking at what you can't do rather than what you CAN.FloppY_ wrote:
I have to say, that is quite a big problem with EVE, to get to the good stuff in the future you have to train, then train, then earn money, then train some more, etc. and it soon feels like you will never get there since skills will be taking months and weeks to train....Adams_BJ wrote:
Go out and kill shit. lots of shit. use tutorials for free shit. figure out what you wanna do and shit. train for it and shit. kill shit while training for shit and shit.CC-Marley wrote:
Downloading Eve now. Any suggestions?
The biggest problem I found with players was that they were bored so they trained for a new exciting thing, and found a new exciting thing so stopped playing while they trained for it. I just tell them to calm down and enjoy what they can do NOW, and then they actually start to enjoy. They spent too much time looking at all the things they couldn't do instead of the things they COULD.
And unless you are willing to commit yourself to life in the game rather than a real one, you won't be able to go top-tier like Dreads and Titans.. am I right? because that's what it's felt like to me during the few trials I've been through having the financial support of a miner mate...
But I know that's what you said, I was merely stating that I was agreeing with youAdams_BJ wrote:
but that's the point im making, you don't have to train for months and months and months to have fun, you could have fun NOW. You're just too busy looking at what you can't do rather than what you CAN.FloppY_ wrote:
I have to say, that is quite a big problem with EVE, to get to the good stuff in the future you have to train, then train, then earn money, then train some more, etc. and it soon feels like you will never get there since skills will be taking months and weeks to train....Adams_BJ wrote:
Go out and kill shit. lots of shit. use tutorials for free shit. figure out what you wanna do and shit. train for it and shit. kill shit while training for shit and shit.
The biggest problem I found with players was that they were bored so they trained for a new exciting thing, and found a new exciting thing so stopped playing while they trained for it. I just tell them to calm down and enjoy what they can do NOW, and then they actually start to enjoy. They spent too much time looking at all the things they couldn't do instead of the things they COULD.
And unless you are willing to commit yourself to life in the game rather than a real one, you won't be able to go top-tier like Dreads and Titans.. am I right? because that's what it's felt like to me during the few trials I've been through having the financial support of a miner mate...
Ah sorry just looked like when you said:FloppY_ wrote:
But I know that's what you said, I was merely stating that I was agreeing with youAdams_BJ wrote:
but that's the point im making, you don't have to train for months and months and months to have fun, you could have fun NOW. You're just too busy looking at what you can't do rather than what you CAN.FloppY_ wrote:
I have to say, that is quite a big problem with EVE, to get to the good stuff in the future you have to train, then train, then earn money, then train some more, etc. and it soon feels like you will never get there since skills will be taking months and weeks to train....
And unless you are willing to commit yourself to life in the game rather than a real one, you won't be able to go top-tier like Dreads and Titans.. am I right? because that's what it's felt like to me during the few trials I've been through having the financial support of a miner mate...
was that you were sayting you can't have fun for months and months and months.I have to say, that is quite a big problem with EVE, to get to the good stuff in the future you have to train, then train, then earn money, then train some more, etc. and it soon feels like you will never get there since skills will be taking months and weeks to train....
e:Adams_BJ wrote:
Ah sorry just looked like when you said:FloppY_ wrote:
But I know that's what you said, I was merely stating that I was agreeing with youAdams_BJ wrote:
but that's the point im making, you don't have to train for months and months and months to have fun, you could have fun NOW. You're just too busy looking at what you can't do rather than what you CAN.was that you were sayting you can't have fun for months and months and months.I have to say, that is quite a big problem with EVE, to get to the good stuff in the future you have to train, then train, then earn money, then train some more, etc. and it soon feels like you will never get there since skills will be taking months and weeks to train....
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMFatherTed wrote:
related; me and adams went roaming once in 900k clones (the base SP you start with) and ended up roleplaying space police. possibly the most fun i've ever had in a rifter
I can see how that was unclearAdams_BJ wrote:
Ah sorry just looked like when you said:FloppY_ wrote:
But I know that's what you said, I was merely stating that I was agreeing with youAdams_BJ wrote:
but that's the point im making, you don't have to train for months and months and months to have fun, you could have fun NOW. You're just too busy looking at what you can't do rather than what you CAN.was that you were sayting you can't have fun for months and months and months.I have to say, that is quite a big problem with EVE, to get to the good stuff in the future you have to train, then train, then earn money, then train some more, etc. and it soon feels like you will never get there since skills will be taking months and weeks to train....
Uzique wrote:
that's the fun part of MMO's. fun in that you can actually put in direct amounts of effort and attain them, with the 'respect' and 'prestige' of it.
IRL you can just be a fat ass virgin with no life, but it doesn't matter