Haha have you ever left the country (not counting Armed Service)? It's pretty standard. Learn to accept it or have fun trouncing around the US.JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah no thanks. Where I am coming from, the reason for my trip, and my occupation are my own business and not the governments. Fuck that noise.
Poll
TSA Screening to see ya naked
| Accept fate and proceed through body scanner | 22% | 22% - 12 | ||||
| Opt out for pat down | 26% | 26% - 14 | ||||
| Express discontent and proceed through scanner | 5% | 5% - 3 | ||||
| Opt out for pat down after making self hard. | 22% | 22% - 12 | ||||
| Leave the airport sans screening, take ship down under | 5% | 5% - 3 | ||||
| Other | 5% | 5% - 3 | ||||
| FU Brinson | 11% | 11% - 6 | ||||
| Total: 53 | ||||||
You could at least buy me dinner first, buddy.
Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!
Umm... on basically every international flight I've ever had I've had to disclose at least once the reason for my trip and my occupation.JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah no thanks. Where I am coming from, the reason for my trip, and my occupation are my own business and not the governments. Fuck that noise.DrunkFace wrote:
Hmmm, I didn't read the link in kmars post. What I was explaining is what El Al Airlines does over and above standard Israeli security.JohnG@lt wrote:
So for a plane carrying 200 passengers, it would take 33-50 hours to clear them all. Makes sense, I'm down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al#SecurityPassengers are asked to report three hours before departure. All El Al terminals around the world are closely monitored for security. There are plain-clothes agents and fully armed police or military personnel who patrol the premises for explosives, suspicious behavior, and other threats. Inside the terminal, passengers and their baggage are checked by a trained team. El Al security procedures require that all passengers be interviewed individually prior to boarding, allowing El Al staff to identify possible security threats. Passengers will be asked questions about where they are coming from, the reason for their trip, their job or occupation, and whether they have packed their bags themselves. The likelihood of potential terrorists remaining calm under such questioning is believed to be low (see microexpression).[38]
At the check-in counter, passengers' passports and tickets are closely examined. A ticket without a sticker from the security checkers will not be accepted. At passport control passengers' names are checked against information from the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Scotland Yard, Shin Bet, and Interpol databases. Luggage is screened and sometimes hand searched. In addition, bags are put through a decompression chamber simulating pressures during flight that could trigger explosives.[39] El Al is the only airline in the world that passes all luggage through such a chamber.[40] Even at overseas airports, El Al security agents conduct all luggage searches personally, even if they are supervised by government or private security firms.
They can scan my luggage and search if they have suspicion, but I also don't want some minimum wage flunky pawing through my things.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Not even flights. Going from Canada to the US in a car (a pretty damn basic/easy/"low-risk") border crossing, you're asked where you're from and where you're going.Spark wrote:
Umm... on basically every international flight I've ever had I've had to disclose at least once the reason for my trip and my occupation.JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah no thanks. Where I am coming from, the reason for my trip, and my occupation are my own business and not the governments. Fuck that noise.DrunkFace wrote:
Hmmm, I didn't read the link in kmars post. What I was explaining is what El Al Airlines does over and above standard Israeli security.JohnG@lt wrote:
So for a plane carrying 200 passengers, it would take 33-50 hours to clear them all. Makes sense, I'm down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al#Security
They can scan my luggage and search if they have suspicion, but I also don't want some minimum wage flunky pawing through my things.
International is one thing, domestic is entirely different.TheDonkey wrote:
Not even flights. Going from Canada to the US in a car (a pretty damn basic/easy/"low-risk") border crossing, you're asked where you're from and where you're going.Spark wrote:
Umm... on basically every international flight I've ever had I've had to disclose at least once the reason for my trip and my occupation.JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah no thanks. Where I am coming from, the reason for my trip, and my occupation are my own business and not the governments. Fuck that noise.
They can scan my luggage and search if they have suspicion, but I also don't want some minimum wage flunky pawing through my things.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Ah. Should've told us soJohnG@lt wrote:
International is one thing, domestic is entirely different.TheDonkey wrote:
Not even flights. Going from Canada to the US in a car (a pretty damn basic/easy/"low-risk") border crossing, you're asked where you're from and where you're going.Spark wrote:
Umm... on basically every international flight I've ever had I've had to disclose at least once the reason for my trip and my occupation.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Do I need to point out at this point that the 9/11 attacks all used domestic flights?
The ones which weren't cruise missiles at least.
The ones which weren't cruise missiles at least.
Fuck Israel
O dear god
Xbone Stormsurgezz
I think he's joking.Kmar wrote:
O dear god
RTHKI wrote:
you mean trolling
I have a small penis and thus care.
The whole point is to make a pat-down so uncomfortable, that you will use the scanner.
The scanner is, from TSA's point, faster and better.
Just another way to "herd the masses"
The scanner is, from TSA's point, faster and better.
Just another way to "herd the masses"
get fisted on yer way home for the holidays..
Replace the "S" in TSA to an "&"
"I'm sorry, sir. Say's here you're on the no-fly Craigslist. I'm gonna have to ask that you accompany me to the dick-pic area and disrobe from the areola down."
TSA strip searching a chld.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Turquoise, you use that 'it will happen again' reasoning as though it justifies something. You can't prove there won't be another attack...so that does not imply that there will be one. This is obviously faulty reasoning.Turquoise wrote:
It's not bullshit. Shit happens. All that matters is how you react to it. I'm not really sure why we're arguing when we both agree that the TSA is overkill.
How many times do I have to post it? Statistically, it will happen again -- it's very unlikely for something like 9/11 to occur again, but hijackings occur at a fairly periodic rate. Considering the number of flights that occur annually and the variance in quality of security by airport, it's inevitable that more hijackings will occur.SenorToenails wrote:
Turquoise, you use that 'it will happen again' reasoning as though it justifies something. You can't prove there won't be another attack...so that does not imply that there will be one. This is obviously faulty reasoning.Turquoise wrote:
It's not bullshit. Shit happens. All that matters is how you react to it. I'm not really sure why we're arguing when we both agree that the TSA is overkill.
Again, we seem to agree that the current security measures are overboard. I'm not really sure why you're disagreeing with me that more hijackings will occur in the future. It's not faulty reasoning if there is a historical record for it.
The only faulty reasoning in this discussion involves most of the defenses for the current security measures. It's perfectly logical to expect more hijackings to inevitably occur over time.
I guess some people could buy these. http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_16676098
Personally I do not fly much anyway. So I have no problem getting scanned. I do agree this has gone a bit too far. If I ever do get picked out for the "pat down" I hope she's kinda hot...
Personally I do not fly much anyway. So I have no problem getting scanned. I do agree this has gone a bit too far. If I ever do get picked out for the "pat down" I hope she's kinda hot...
Why would you want her to be hot, you don't wanna be walking around an airport nursing a stonker.
My main apprehension at my medical was that id get a boner if the nurse was hot. She was scottish and thus not, phew.
My main apprehension at my medical was that id get a boner if the nurse was hot. She was scottish and thus not, phew.
The guy who's selling those machines was once a TSA director and there are more than a few senators that had stock in Rapiscan before the government contract was signed and accellerated. What's wrong with bomb sniffing dogs?
Simple though, you have a problem with it don't fly. You hurt the pockets of the airlines and they'll do away with it.
Simple though, you have a problem with it don't fly. You hurt the pockets of the airlines and they'll do away with it.
The comment by the youtube video poster.Before the video started the boy went through a metal detector and didn't set it off but was selected for a pat down. The boy was shy so the TSA couldn't complete the full pat on the young boy. The father tried several times to just hold the boys arms out for the TSA agent but i guess it didn't end up being enough for the guy. I was about 30 ft away so i couldn't hear their conversation if there was any. The enraged father pulled his son shirt off and gave it to the TSA agent to search, thats when this video begins.
(2:16:39 PM): After I finished videotaping the incident I went through the check point myself. I collected my things and went over to talk to the father and son. Before I could get to them a man in a black suit who had been talking with the other TSA officials approached me. He asked to speak to me and I obliged, wondering what was to come. He then proceeded to interrogate me about why I was videotaping the "procedures of the TSA". I told him that I had never seen such practices before on a young child and decided to record it. The man being frustrated at this point demanded to know my plans with the video, of which I didn't respond. Repeatedly he asked me to delete the video, hoping his mere presence could intimidate me to obey, but I refused. By this point it became obvious that he felt TSA had done something wrong and that I caught it on tape. After the interview, I left for my gate. I called my brother who told me I should put the tape on YouTube because this had been a recent hot topic in the news.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Sure, it'll save a few lives, but millions will be late!
It's useless, it's not going to save any lives. For frequent flyers it will actually give them a higher risk of cancer.Bertster7 wrote:
Sure, it'll save a few lives, but millions will be late!
Well, cancer is really one of the lesser worries about scanners. Tanning booths are much more likely to give you cancer than one of these scanners -- even if you're a frequent flyer.cpt.fass1 wrote:
It's useless, it's not going to save any lives. For frequent flyers it will actually give them a higher risk of cancer.Bertster7 wrote:
Sure, it'll save a few lives, but millions will be late!
There's even evidence to suggest that cell phones pose a greater risk for cancer than these scanners.