Acerider
Stupid keyboard is stuck
+32|5294|Ontario, Canada

jord wrote:

Acerider wrote:

jord wrote:


I'm not overeacting at all. The kid is annoying as hell and I hence labelled him as annoying...
Oh. Sorry. Does he try to be unnannoying?

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Aand does this kid happen to be someone posting in this thread?
No I was talking about a rl kid. Nice of you to assume I was talking about you though, lawl.
I'm used to getting shit about it, though yes, lawl.

Does the RL kid try to be unnanoying?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6689|North Carolina

EVieira wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

EVieira wrote:


Its practical, no doubt about that. But in reality, when you offer a heroin addict money for a sterilization you're just giving him one more fix in exchange for him being neutered. THAT'S what makes it immoral.
I also support euthanasia.  If he wants to overdose and die...  that's on him, not me.
Fine, but would you offer him money to do so? Or provide the needles and drugs?
Depends...   If he's already been to rehab 3 or 4 times, yes.
eleven bravo
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6689|North Carolina

Acerider wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

EVieira wrote:


Its practical, no doubt about that. But in reality, when you offer a heroin addict money for a sterilization you're just giving him one more fix in exchange for him being neutered. THAT'S what makes it immoral.
I also support euthanasia.  If he wants to overdose and die...  that's on him, not me.
You still should try to help someone from destroying themselves. If they don't listen and continue to destroy themselves,keep trying to help themuntil you succeed or until they destroy themselves.
I believe in a certain amount of compassion.  I also believe in putting someone out of their misery.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6755
pace just be quiet and stay quiet
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Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6284|Vortex Ring State

Turquoise wrote:

Acerider wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


I also support euthanasia.  If he wants to overdose and die...  that's on him, not me.
You still should try to help someone from destroying themselves. If they don't listen and continue to destroy themselves,keep trying to help themuntil you succeed or until they destroy themselves.
I believe in a certain amount of compassion.  I also believe in putting someone out of their misery.
I also believe in putting caps on spending taxpayer's money.
Cybargs
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+2,285|7001

Uzique wrote:

fm just be quiet and stay quiet
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cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6980|NJ
Good, even if later they regret it.. Which they will once a lawyer whispers in their ear. They can collect up the children that they've already had. We shouldn't be rewarding bad behavior.
jord
Member
+2,382|6962|The North, beyond the wall.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Good, even if later they regret it.. Which they will once a lawyer whispers in their ear. They can collect up the children that they've already had. We shouldn't be rewarding bad behavior.
That's a contradiction if ever I saw one.  We should pay heroin addicts to not have children but we shouldn't reward "bad" behavior?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6689|North Carolina

Trotskygrad wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Acerider wrote:


You still should try to help someone from destroying themselves. If they don't listen and continue to destroy themselves,keep trying to help themuntil you succeed or until they destroy themselves.
I believe in a certain amount of compassion.  I also believe in putting someone out of their misery.
I also believe in putting caps on spending taxpayer's money.
That too.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6689|North Carolina

jord wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Good, even if later they regret it.. Which they will once a lawyer whispers in their ear. They can collect up the children that they've already had. We shouldn't be rewarding bad behavior.
That's a contradiction if ever I saw one.  We should pay heroin addicts to not have children but we shouldn't reward "bad" behavior?
Fair point, but I think the idea is that paying an addict to not have kids is a greater good for society than the initial negative of the payout.

Last edited by Turquoise (2010-10-19 10:53:03)

jord
Member
+2,382|6962|The North, beyond the wall.

Turquoise wrote:

jord wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Good, even if later they regret it.. Which they will once a lawyer whispers in their ear. They can collect up the children that they've already had. We shouldn't be rewarding bad behavior.
That's a contradiction if ever I saw one.  We should pay heroin addicts to not have children but we shouldn't reward "bad" behavior?
Fair point, but I think the idea is that paying an addict to not have kids is a greater good for society than the initial negative of the payout.
It depends on a case by case basis. Paying an addict... Those 3 words just don't sound right, meh.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6905|London, England

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


And Eugenics needs to go back on the historical trash heap.
What's the problem with a voluntary sterilization program?  No one is being forced to be sterilized.
What's wrong with simply wearing a condom or using birth control?
Nothing, obviously some people can't do things like others so they need to do it differently.

It's no different then someone getting a vasectomy, except it just sounds much nicer.

''sterilised myself because i'm a junkie'' rather than ''doc gave me a vasectomy so i can make love to my hearts content'' or some bullshit like that. People need to stop letting words get so far into them.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6980|NJ

jord wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

jord wrote:

That's a contradiction if ever I saw one.  We should pay heroin addicts to not have children but we shouldn't reward "bad" behavior?
Fair point, but I think the idea is that paying an addict to not have kids is a greater good for society than the initial negative of the payout.
It depends on a case by case basis. Paying an addict... Those 3 words just don't sound right, meh.
Yes addicts need money too. I say we don't just do it for addicts, I say anyone who wants to get sterilised the government should open this program up to. That way it's not considered "racist" or anything, this is why people get into these troubles.

Condoms and Birth Control? Really these people who are bad enough to have 121 pregnancies and 76 kids in state care, so they're going to be "responsible" enough to use protection.

Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2010-10-19 11:48:58)

jord
Member
+2,382|6962|The North, beyond the wall.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

jord wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Fair point, but I think the idea is that paying an addict to not have kids is a greater good for society than the initial negative of the payout.
It depends on a case by case basis. Paying an addict... Those 3 words just don't sound right, meh.
Yes addicts need money too. I say we don't just do it for addicts, I say anyone who wants to get sterilised the government should open this program up to. That way it's not considered "racist" or anything, this is why people get into these troubles.
Doesn't the vasectomy procedure come under obamacare?
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6468|Ireland
If you just execute the addicts then you don't have to take away their right to breed AND there is less crime to boot.

Yeah, I pretty much think a dead druggie is a law abiding druggie.
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6782

i'll drink to that.

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