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2010-10-19 07:57:12
Ticia
Member
+73|5613
Drug addict sterilised for cash - but can Barbara Harris save our babies?

Everyone can agree that junkies don't make good parents and newborns going through drug withdrawals can't be encouraged so why keep hitting the supposed rights key when the hypocrisy of it all is so evident.
Barbara Harris has been branded a Nazi but said: "I just say to my critics, 'If you believe these women should continue to take drugs and have children, then step up in line and adopt their babies'."
Plus if there are so many women who keep popping for money, why is so shocking to pay an addict to not breed?
2010-10-19 07:59:22
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5636|London, England
Because Hitler had a program that was very similar.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-10-19 08:01:15
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6683|North Carolina
I think we should pay people of all ages and lifestyles not to breed.

The poorer you are, the more you would get.  The fewer kids you have, the more you would get -- you'd get the most if you didn't have any kids yet.

Also, you'd get more the lower your IQ is and/or the more severe your genetic problems were.

As long as it's voluntary, sterilization programs aren't a bad thing.  It only becomes a problem when it's involuntary.
2010-10-19 08:03:12
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5636|London, England
Turquoise the Nazi... Do you believe that the shape of a persons skull defines their societal value as well?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-10-19 08:03:56
Acerider
Stupid keyboard is stuck
+32|5288|Ontario, Canada

JohnG@lt wrote:

Because Hitler had a program that was very similar.
Yep. And how did that go?


Spoiler (highlight to read):
Jewnocide
2010-10-19 08:05:49
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6683|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise the Nazi... Do you believe that the shape of a persons skull defines their societal value as well?
Of course not.  Genetics is a science.  Phrenology is a pseudoscience.
2010-10-19 08:06:26
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5636|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise the Nazi... Do you believe that the shape of a persons skull defines their societal value as well?
Of course not.  Genetics is a science.  Phrenology is a pseudoscience.
And Eugenics needs to go back on the historical trash heap.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-10-19 08:07:51
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6683|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise the Nazi... Do you believe that the shape of a persons skull defines their societal value as well?
Of course not.  Genetics is a science.  Phrenology is a pseudoscience.
And Eugenics needs to go back on the historical trash heap.
What's the problem with a voluntary sterilization program?  No one is being forced to be sterilized.
2010-10-19 08:09:17
jord
Member
+2,382|6956|The North, beyond the wall.
It's optional, thus I don't care.

It's worth mentioning parents that don't have a chemical addiction can be equally shit. Especially alcoholics.
2010-10-19 08:10:57
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5636|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Of course not.  Genetics is a science.  Phrenology is a pseudoscience.
And Eugenics needs to go back on the historical trash heap.
What's the problem with a voluntary sterilization program?  No one is being forced to be sterilized.
What's wrong with simply wearing a condom or using birth control?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-10-19 08:11:33
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6683|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


And Eugenics needs to go back on the historical trash heap.
What's the problem with a voluntary sterilization program?  No one is being forced to be sterilized.
What's wrong with simply wearing a condom or using birth control?
Absolutely nothing.  See, it's pretty much the same.
2010-10-19 08:11:39
Ticia
Member
+73|5613

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


And Eugenics needs to go back on the historical trash heap.
What's the problem with a voluntary sterilization program?  No one is being forced to be sterilized.
What's wrong with simply wearing a condom or using birth control?
Have you ever known a junkie?
2010-10-19 08:13:07
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5636|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


What's the problem with a voluntary sterilization program?  No one is being forced to be sterilized.
What's wrong with simply wearing a condom or using birth control?
Absolutely nothing.  See, it's pretty much the same.
No. A condom or birth control is temporary and not based on a persons socioeconomic status. Sterilization is permanent. What happens if they clean up a year after the sterilization occurs?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-10-19 08:13:24
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5636|London, England

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


What's the problem with a voluntary sterilization program?  No one is being forced to be sterilized.
What's wrong with simply wearing a condom or using birth control?
Have you ever known a junkie?
Yes. Plenty.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-10-19 08:14:02
jord
Member
+2,382|6956|The North, beyond the wall.
I dislike condoms.
2010-10-19 08:14:07
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6277|The Mitten

jord wrote:

It's optional, thus I don't care.

It's worth mentioning parents that don't have a chemical addiction can be equally shit. Especially alcoholics.
wat
EE (hats
2010-10-19 08:15:00
jord
Member
+2,382|6956|The North, beyond the wall.

Morpheus wrote:

jord wrote:

It's optional, thus I don't care.

It's worth mentioning parents that don't have a chemical addiction can be equally shit. Especially alcoholics.
wat
Alcohol is psychologically addictive, not chemically addictive, no?
2010-10-19 08:15:44
Ticia
Member
+73|5613

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


What's wrong with simply wearing a condom or using birth control?
Have you ever known a junkie?
Yes. Plenty.
Then you should know better than to expect them to follow any contraception method.
2010-10-19 08:15:52
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6775

jord wrote:

Morpheus wrote:

jord wrote:

It's optional, thus I don't care.

It's worth mentioning parents that don't have a chemical addiction can be equally shit. Especially alcoholics.
wat
Alcohol is psychologically addictive, not chemically addictive, no?
have you ever seen someone suffering the DT's?
2010-10-19 08:16:32
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6683|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


What's wrong with simply wearing a condom or using birth control?
Absolutely nothing.  See, it's pretty much the same.
No. A condom or birth control is temporary and not based on a persons socioeconomic status. Sterilization is permanent. What happens if they clean up a year after the sterilization occurs?
A vasectomy is reversible.  Granted, the female equivalent is quite a bit more complicated.

Then again, I thought you were one of those "personal responsibility" people.  Since when did you give a shit what happens to someone after they fuck up?
2010-10-19 08:16:53
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6277|The Mitten

jord wrote:

Morpheus wrote:

jord wrote:

It's optional, thus I don't care.

It's worth mentioning parents that don't have a chemical addiction can be equally shit. Especially alcoholics.
wat
Alcohol is psychologically addictive, not chemically addictive, no?
ah. i see what you did there... but alcohol is still a chemical, yes? And so, is an addiction to a chemical....




bah, there's probably a reason why i barely passed gen chem.
EE (hats
2010-10-19 08:18:06
EVieira
Member
+105|6756|Lutenblaag, Molvania

jord wrote:

It's optional, thus I don't care.

It's worth mentioning parents that don't have a chemical addiction can be equally shit. Especially alcoholics.
Alcoholism is a chemical addiction too. The only difference is that its legal in most countries.
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
2010-10-19 08:18:12
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5636|London, England

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:


Have you ever known a junkie?
Yes. Plenty.
Then you should know better than to expect them to follow any contraception method.
Most of them are too cracked out to get it up, let alone impregnate someone. Funny enough, the most effective method of cleaning people up in my experience is watching them scramble after they find out they have a kid on the way.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-10-19 08:19:41
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6683|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


Yes. Plenty.
Then you should know better than to expect them to follow any contraception method.
Most of them are too cracked out to get it up, let alone impregnate someone. Funny enough, the most effective method of cleaning people up in my experience is watching them scramble after they find out they have a kid on the way.
And the kid's brain is often scrambled if the mother is a crack addict.
2010-10-19 08:20:06
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5636|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:


Then you should know better than to expect them to follow any contraception method.
Most of them are too cracked out to get it up, let alone impregnate someone. Funny enough, the most effective method of cleaning people up in my experience is watching them scramble after they find out they have a kid on the way.
And the kid's brain is often scrambled if the mother is a crack addict.
Crack is so 1980s.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

 

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