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Trotskygrad wrote:

Why did you find it a unreliable PoS?

Stovepiping like a mother... And it would jam 5-7 outta 50 rounds.  Sent back to kimber twice.  Each time I got it back there was a laundry list of shit done to it (polish feeder ramp type stuff).  I used all different kinds of ammo and different mags.  It is just a shitty gun.  Quality control of kimbers is in the toilet and you're playing the lotto if you buy one.  Me?  I won't sell it as I see it negligent to sell a defective firearm that may one day be used in a self defense scenario.

Mekstizzle wrote:

tuckergustav wrote:

I don't buy that you are doing a community service by making anti-Semitic comments.

He's just making racist comments. The minute you start using BS words like anti-Semitic is the minute you start acting like being racist to Jews is somehow worse than 'regular' racism

I don't buy into all that bullshit about omg he said something bad about Jews whilst at the same time talking about how funny it is to curb-stomp n*****s and bomb brown people, as it is on this forum all the time.

I don't have double standards...

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

Why did you find it a unreliable PoS?

Stovepiping like a mother... And it would jam 5-7 outta 50 rounds.  Sent back to kimber twice.  Each time I got it back there was a laundry list of shit done to it (polish feeder ramp type stuff).  I used all different kinds of ammo and different mags.  It is just a shitty gun.  Quality control of kimbers is in the toilet and you're playing the lotto if you buy one.  Me?  I won't sell it as I see it negligent to sell a defective firearm that may one day be used in a self defense scenario.

Chopping a good design like a 1911 and expecting it to work just the same is a recipe for problems.

Trotskygrad wrote:

I would say a QSPR revolver is a decent self-defense weapon...

Are they legal? I guess you could make silent ammo for any gun if you could be bothered.

You mean supressed?

jord wrote:

You mean supressed?

The ammo is silent, and the gun adapted to the ammo.
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg213-e.htm

Nagant revolvers can be suppressed with standard ammo.

i love how bf2s can go from

JohnG@lt wrote:

So I'm forced to play it off, say I was joking, give her a fist bump etc and proceed to the car with my girlfriend chewing me out the entire way home.

to

Trotskygrad wrote:

Suppressed nagants are effective too, but they have to have a long suppressors up front, so they look suppressed and it's REALLY heavy DAO trigger pull is rather unsuitable for self-defense

and six pages of other stuff in between.

this is why i <3 you, bf2s!

Trotskygrad wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

you have a car with 3 seats up front?

Bench seats bro.

lol bench seats
yeah I know what they are, but they're sorta rare these days in vehicles other than pickups/vans

I roll a sweet van.



Even when there is not a seat in the middle, there is usually a console. You can just as easily wedge it between the seat and console.

shoulda let the thread end with the pedo-van. it'd been perfect . . .

Superior Mind wrote:

This thread offends me, not as a Jew, but as a cashier.

Haha, why?

Jeez, lots of gun talk here. All you armed drivers out there, do you really intend to shoot while driving or is it more for the situation that someone walks up to your window or something? I find it hard to imagine a scenario in which it is useful to have your pistol accesible like that. Even police officers don't wedge their pistols into the cup holders for easy reach.

LaidBackNinja wrote:

Jeez, lots of gun talk here. All you armed drivers out there, do you really intend to shoot while driving or is it more for the situation that someone walks up to your window or something? I find it hard to imagine a scenario in which it is useful to have your pistol accesible like that. Even police officers don't wedge their pistols into the cup holders for easy reach.

"Get out of the fucking car"!

Would be an appropriate example of when to have easy access to a pistol.

LaidBackNinja wrote:

jord wrote:

LaidBackNinja wrote:

Jeez, lots of gun talk here. All you armed drivers out there, do you really intend to shoot while driving or is it more for the situation that someone walks up to your window or something? I find it hard to imagine a scenario in which it is useful to have your pistol accesible like that. Even police officers don't wedge their pistols into the cup holders for easy reach.

"Get out of the fucking car"!

Would be an appropriate example of when to have easy access to a pistol.

1) The "assailant" is unarmed, in which case you drive off if possible or lock your doors if not possible.

2) The assailant is armed, in which case you pull out your gun and he shoots you because he already had his gun ready.

Why would you drive off if you have the upper hand..?

2 is a case by case basis, perhaps he's only got an imitation firearm, perhaps he hasn't made ready, perhaps he hasn't taken care of his firearm, perhaps he doesn't really have it in him to actually shoot someone, perhaps perhaps perhaps. We can do a thousand hypotheticals but at the end of the day there's no negatives to legally carrying a pistol and many possible positives.

jord wrote:

LaidBackNinja wrote:

jord wrote:

"Get out of the fucking car"!

Would be an appropriate example of when to have easy access to a pistol.

1) The "assailant" is unarmed, in which case you drive off if possible or lock your doors if not possible.

2) The assailant is armed, in which case you pull out your gun and he shoots you because he already had his gun ready.

Why would you drive off if you have the upper hand..?

2 is a case by case basis, perhaps he's only got an imitation firearm, perhaps he hasn't made ready, perhaps he hasn't taken care of his firearm, perhaps he doesn't really have it in him to actually shoot someone, perhaps perhaps perhaps. We can do a thousand hypotheticals but at the end of the day there's no negatives to legally carrying a pistol and many possible positives.

1) Why wouldn't you drive off? What could you possibly gain by confronting the punk trying to steal your car? Do you intend to counter-rob him? Or make a citizen's arrest, perhaps? He'd just run away.

2) The negative is obviously that if he could panic and shoot you if you pull out a firearm. Also: accidents. Every person on here will claim to be an expert and that they are always safe blabla. I know for a fact, however, that pistols especially are dangerous and many accidents happen with them.

Edit:
I just wanted to make clear that I am not a hippie or anything. I'm in the military and am intimately familiar with firearms, but it just seems wildly inappropriate to me to drive around with a loaded pistol wedged between the seats or stuck in the cup holder for easy reach. I put my cups in my cup holder. Maybe it's just because I'm a European that I think this level of preparedness is exaggerated. Maybe if I'd live in the US I'd do the same thing, but just thinking about what I know over here it just seems ridiculous to drive around with a pistol on your lap or in the cup holder.
My comment on the safety of pistols is based on experiences in the military, mostly with Glocks, which are, IMHO, accidents waiting to happen.