BF2S Forums Israelis raid "Aid" Convoy

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

dayarath wrote:

Who's to decide that's illegal? That whole notion is so fucking ridiculous to me.

The UN? Please.

International law sets out what is and what isn't legal.
Its really very simple.

Alternatively:

I have decided to blockade your home.
I will decide who enters and who leaves (you may not leave).
No one may supply you with food or any other material.
I will decide when you have water and electricity, your sewer pipe has been blocked.
You may not dispute the legality of my blockade.
I may bomb you at any time.
You may not get your friends to help you because that would be cheating
I will be having my friends help me, which is fair

Now, lets have a rational discussion about you moving into a tent at the bottom of your garden and signing over your house to me for nothing.
If you raise your voice at any point the discussion is over and you will be put on the street at gunpoint or shot.

Way to oversimplify the situation to fit your worldview, completely ignoring the various points regarding the legality of the blockade. It is legal. You saying it is not does not make it so.

Jewish activists sail to Gaza in defiance of blockade

A boat carrying a group of Jewish activists has set sail from northern Cyprus aiming to breach Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip.
The 10m (32-foot) catamaran is carrying supplies including medical equipment, textbooks, nets and children's toys.
The activists - from Israel, the US, Germany and the UK - say they will not resist if Israel tries to stop them.

Earlier this year, Israeli commandos killed nine people in clashes on board a Turkish ship trying to reach Gaza.
Israel says its naval blockade is to stop weapons being smuggled to Hamas militants who run the territory.

The boat, named Irene, set sail on Sunday under a British flag with 10 passengers and crew. It could take up to 36 hours to reach the Gazan coast.

Richard Kuper, a member of the UK-based organising group Jews for Justice for Palestinians, said the boat was a symbolic act of protest and also a message of solidarity to "Palestinians and Israelis who seek peace and justice".
"This is a non-violent action," he said.
"We aim to reach Gaza, but our activists will not engage in any physical confrontation and will therefore not present the Israelis with any reason or excuse to use physical force or assault them."

Among the activists is 82-year-old Holocaust survivor Reuven Moskovitz.
"It is a sacred duty for me, as a [Holocaust] survivor, to protest against the persecution, the oppression and the imprisonment of so many people in Gaza, including more than 800,000 children," he said.

Another passenger is Rami Elhanan, 60, an Israeli whose daughter Smadar died in a suicide bombing at a shopping centre in Jerusalem in 1997.
He said reconciliation with the Palestinians was the surest path to peace.
"Those 1.5 million people in Gaza are victims exactly as I am," he said.

However, Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Andy David called the protest "a provocative joke that isn't funny".
"It is unfortunate that there are all kinds of organisations involved in provocations that contribute nothing and certainly don't contribute to any kind of agreement," he said.

"If they were serious about wanting to transfer aid to Gaza, they could easily do so after undergoing a screening for smuggled weaponry."

Dilbert_X wrote:

Dayarath wrote:

The point is, words like "legal" and "illegal" have no meaning if there is no police force of sorts to uphold the law.

There are mutliple UN resolutions against Israeli occupation of Palestine, the 'Police' are hanstrung by the US.

Trotskygrad wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

This should be fun
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11414973

Jewish activists sail to Gaza in defiance of blockade

A boat carrying a group of Jewish activists has set sail from northern Cyprus aiming to breach Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip.
The 10m (32-foot) catamaran is carrying supplies including medical equipment, textbooks, nets and children's toys.
The activists - from Israel, the US, Germany and the UK - say they will not resist if Israel tries to stop them.

Earlier this year, Israeli commandos killed nine people in clashes on board a Turkish ship trying to reach Gaza.
Israel says its naval blockade is to stop weapons being smuggled to Hamas militants who run the territory.

The boat, named Irene, set sail on Sunday under a British flag with 10 passengers and crew. It could take up to 36 hours to reach the Gazan coast.

Richard Kuper, a member of the UK-based organising group Jews for Justice for Palestinians, said the boat was a symbolic act of protest and also a message of solidarity to "Palestinians and Israelis who seek peace and justice".
"This is a non-violent action," he said.
"We aim to reach Gaza, but our activists will not engage in any physical confrontation and will therefore not present the Israelis with any reason or excuse to use physical force or assault them."

Among the activists is 82-year-old Holocaust survivor Reuven Moskovitz.
"It is a sacred duty for me, as a [Holocaust] survivor, to protest against the persecution, the oppression and the imprisonment of so many people in Gaza, including more than 800,000 children," he said.

Another passenger is Rami Elhanan, 60, an Israeli whose daughter Smadar died in a suicide bombing at a shopping centre in Jerusalem in 1997.
He said reconciliation with the Palestinians was the surest path to peace.
"Those 1.5 million people in Gaza are victims exactly as I am," he said.

However, Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Andy David called the protest "a provocative joke that isn't funny".
"It is unfortunate that there are all kinds of organisations involved in provocations that contribute nothing and certainly don't contribute to any kind of agreement," he said.

"If they were serious about wanting to transfer aid to Gaza, they could easily do so after undergoing a screening for smuggled weaponry."

I wonder if gun-toting commandos will be fast-roping onto this boat?
I guess we'll see.

Off topic: I once had to teach a holocaust survivor how to use email and a computer. Was hard cause he always curled his fingers when using a mouse.

Well well...

ICJ and ICC don't really have much standing on the actions of countries, so no.