Poll

Euthanasia - Make it legal everywhere?

Yes60%60% - 23
No23%23% - 9
Not sure15%15% - 6
Total: 38
Ticia
Member
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Australian TV bans pro-euthanasia ad

Seems the Aussies are not giving up on fighting for it.


With a strict legal framework in order to protect everyone involved i don't see why not.

What say you?
Macbeth
Banned
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I'm in support of it.

Question: should the mentally ill be allowed to seek euthanasia?
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6760
bf2s is, if anything, an advertisement for why euthanasia should be a global-wide service to humanity
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Ticia
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Macbeth wrote:

I'm in support of it.

Question: should the mentally ill be allowed to seek euthanasia?
I would say if someone is mentally ill or mentally incompetent they're not able to give their full informed consent so imo no. But that's a good question.


Uzique wrote:

bf2s is, if anything, an advertisement for why euthanasia should be a global-wide service to humanity
I'm afraid that joke has been used about abortion too many times to still be funny:p
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6760
i use it about swiss euthanasia clinics almost every week here and still receive rapturous applause
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Macbeth
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Ticia wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I'm in support of it.

Question: should the mentally ill be allowed to seek euthanasia?
I would say if someone is mentally ill or mentally incompetent they're not able to give their full informed consent so imo no. But that's a good question.


Uzique wrote:

bf2s is, if anything, an advertisement for why euthanasia should be a global-wide service to humanity
I'm afraid that joke has been used about abortion too many times to still be funny:p
I haven't really made up my mind on the mentally ill aspect of it. I figure since some mental illnesses are hard to treat/impossible to cure and causes significant amounts of suffering a person should be allowed end their lives if they are suffering from one.

I mean, people living with BPD or chronic bipolar syndrome are really suffering terrible lives. Why shouldn't they be allowed to end this suffering?

Though I can see how someone with bipolar disorder would have trouble making an informed decision...

Last edited by Macbeth (2010-09-14 17:11:36)

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+1,010|6576|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Macbeth wrote:

Ticia wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I'm in support of it.

Question: should the mentally ill be allowed to seek euthanasia?
I would say if someone is mentally ill or mentally incompetent they're not able to give their full informed consent so imo no. But that's a good question.


Uzique wrote:

bf2s is, if anything, an advertisement for why euthanasia should be a global-wide service to humanity
I'm afraid that joke has been used about abortion too many times to still be funny:p
I haven't really made up my mind on the mentally ill aspect of it. I figure since some mental illnesses are hard to treat/impossible to cure and causes significant amounts of suffering a person should be allowed end their lives if they are suffering from one.

I mean, someone suffering some BPD or are chronically bipolar are really suffering terrible lives. Why shouldn't they be allowed to end this suffering?

Though I can see how someone with bipolar disorder would have trouble making an informed decision...
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­ Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5648|London, England
Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-09-14 17:43:15)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6420|North Tonawanda, NY

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.
That's always been a funny thing to me...what are they going to do when you succeed?  Charge your corpse with a felony?  zomg the horror!
Macbeth
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+2,444|5875

SenorToenails wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.
That's always been a funny thing to me...what are they going to do when you succeed?  Charge your corpse with a felony?  zomg the horror!
Well in the olden days, they would cut off the head of the corpse and deny them a Christian burial.

IIRC a place in China was running out of land to bury people so the residents started killing themselves to get some of the last spots. The local government declared killing yourself illegal and threatened fines for the family.

Last edited by Macbeth (2010-09-14 17:49:00)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6695|North Carolina

SenorToenails wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.
That's always been a funny thing to me...what are they going to do when you succeed?  Charge your corpse with a felony?  zomg the horror!
"You can't kill yourself...  It's punishable by death!"
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5648|London, England

Macbeth wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.
That's always been a funny thing to me...what are they going to do when you succeed?  Charge your corpse with a felony?  zomg the horror!
Well in the olden days, they would cut off the head of the corpse and deny them a Christian burial.

IIRC a place in China was running out of land to bury people so the residents started killing themselves to get some of the last spots. The local government declared killing yourself illegal and threatened fines for the family.
Learned that in "Kingdom of Heaven" didn'tcha?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5875

JohnG@lt wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:


That's always been a funny thing to me...what are they going to do when you succeed?  Charge your corpse with a felony?  zomg the horror!
Well in the olden days, they would cut off the head of the corpse and deny them a Christian burial.

IIRC a place in China was running out of land to bury people so the residents started killing themselves to get some of the last spots. The local government declared killing yourself illegal and threatened fines for the family.
Learned that in "Kingdom of Heaven" didn'tcha?
It's what helped me remember it. lol
Ticia
Member
+73|5625

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.
Are there places where suicide is still a crime though?  Assisted suicide is not the same.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5527|Cleveland, Ohio
just swallow a bunch of sleeping pills and chase with a bottle of vodka.  fuck sake.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5875

11 Bravo wrote:

just swallow a bunch of sleeping pills and chase with a bottle of vodka.  fuck sake.
I heard that doesn't feel too good and some people are medically unable to do that.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5527|Cleveland, Ohio

Macbeth wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

just swallow a bunch of sleeping pills and chase with a bottle of vodka.  fuck sake.
I heard that doesn't feel too good and some people are medically unable to do that.
if people tell you it didnt feel good than they didnt do that...cuz they aint dead
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6438|'straya
Yes, If someone is capable of making a reasonable decision in a proper state of mind, then I believe they should have the option to end their own life.
Macbeth
Banned
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11 Bravo wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

just swallow a bunch of sleeping pills and chase with a bottle of vodka.  fuck sake.
I heard that doesn't feel too good and some people are medically unable to do that.
if people tell you it didnt feel good than they didnt do that...cuz they aint dead
It was a doctor that was commenting about people using meds to kill themselves. Even so it doesn't refute the second point.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5648|London, England

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.
Are there places where suicide is still a crime though?  Assisted suicide is not the same.
America.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6695|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.
Are there places where suicide is still a crime though?  Assisted suicide is not the same.
America.
What's the sentence?

Last edited by Turquoise (2010-09-14 19:07:50)

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6760
in all seriousness i don't think it's the place of the state nor the society you live in to proscribe how you can and cannot die
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Ticia
Member
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why it's a crime to dispose of your own life as you see fit in the first place is beyond me. Damn Bible readers.
Are there places where suicide is still a crime though?  Assisted suicide is not the same.
America.
You shitting me.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5875

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:


Are there places where suicide is still a crime though?  Assisted suicide is not the same.
America.
You shitting me.
If you survive you can get institutionalized.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6760

Ticia wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Ticia wrote:


Are there places where suicide is still a crime though?  Assisted suicide is not the same.
America.
You shitting me.
there's an old common/latin law concept called 'felo de se' that literally means 'making a felon of oneself'. all suicide fell under that category.

in england the suicide act 1960-something made suicide a non-legal issue but specifically made assisted suicide a crime.
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