Poll

Who attends church regularly? Or tries to.

i do10%10% - 14
i dont, but im christian29%29% - 40
i dont, im not christian60%60% - 83
Total: 137
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HaiBai wrote:

no gays, no marriage before sex.
fuck that
13urnzz
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HaiBai wrote:

no marriage before sex.
i agree with that 100%
HaiBai
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Macbeth wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

no gays, no abortion, no marriage before sex.

gays actually wouldn't affect anythnig, so whatever.  abortion is a controversy.  no marriage before sex would make the world a better place though.
you mean no sex before marriage?
yes lol.

personally, i dont like a lot of parts of the catholic religion.  im starting to lean towards the point that everyone should find their own faith and interpret the bible in their own words.  but whatever, everyone should do what they want.
War Man
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HaiBai wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

no gays, no abortion, no marriage before sex.

gays actually wouldn't affect anythnig, so whatever.  abortion is a controversy.  no marriage before sex would make the world a better place though.
you mean no sex before marriage?
yes lol.

personally, i dont like a lot of parts of the catholic religion.  im starting to lean towards the point that everyone should find their own faith and interpret the bible in their own words.  but whatever, everyone should do what they want.
And distort it just like ancient humanity did in the medieval times. Great idea.

Last edited by War Man (2010-09-14 17:58:37)

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Macbeth
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HaiBai wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

no gays, no abortion, no marriage before sex.

gays actually wouldn't affect anythnig, so whatever.  abortion is a controversy.  no marriage before sex would make the world a better place though.
you mean no sex before marriage?
yes lol.

personally, i dont like a lot of parts of the catholic religion.  im starting to lean towards the point that everyone should find their own faith and interpret the bible in their own words. but whatever, everyone should do what they want.
Agreed on the highlighted. I really don't like anything that sets arbitrary limits on my actions. As long as it doesn't affect any non-consenting human, go for it.

The way I see things: Human history goes back 10 thousand years. What one guy thought about anything 2 thousand years ago means nil to me, and the idea he knew anything more to life than I do seems kinda crazy. /platitude
Macbeth
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Imagine being like a 5,000 year old Vampire. Just think of all the shit you've seen.
13urnzz
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Macbeth wrote:

Imagine being like a 5,000 year old Vampire. Just think of all the shit you've seen.
good one, Godric
War Man
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Macbeth wrote:

Imagine being like a 5,000 year old Vampire. Just think of all the shit you've seen.
Speaking of vampires I just remembered this.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 4#p3316564
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Hunter/Jumper
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Uzique wrote:

as i already said the process of reporting abusive clerics to the local/national authorities is VERY shady

the catholic church hides, relocates and protects priests with a known record of molestation

an honest institution would hand them over and excommunicate them... not so with catholics
I am pretty sure the Catholic church, the Boy Scouts ,The P.G.A., Jet Blue Airlines, Little League, N.F.L. or the U.S. Army has no Forms to keep track of Child molesters as the Police should do that. If any of those Institutions kept records like that they would be sued. If they had a " Known Police record of molestation " they could not be Priests.
( I don't know about the rest. )
This seems like " just an excuse to make a few more side-cracks at Catholics "

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-14 18:17:27)

SenorToenails
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Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Uzique wrote:

as i already said the process of reporting abusive clerics to the local/national authorities is VERY shady

the catholic church hides, relocates and protects priests with a known record of molestation

an honest institution would hand them over and excommunicate them... not so with catholics
I am pretty sure the Catholic church, the Boy Scouts ,The P.G.A., Jet Blue Airlines, Little League, N.F.L. or the U.S. Army has no Forms to keep track of Child molesters as the Police should do that. If any of those Institutions kept records like that they would be sued. If they had a " Known Police record of molestation " they could not be Priests.
( I don't know about the rest. )
This seems like " just an excuse to make a few more side-cracks at Catholics "
Except they did cover things up.  I think some people made the allegations directly to the church, who facilitated pay-offs in some cases and shifted the problem priests around.  Basically, it was handled very, very poorly.  The church did not encourage the abuse directly, but they did impede the investigations with secrecy and stall tactics, and then they didn't actually punish the priests in question internally either.

Father Murphy not only was never tried or disciplined by the church’s own justice system, but also got a pass from the police and prosecutors who ignored reports from his victims, according to the documents and interviews with victims. Three successive archbishops in Wisconsin were told that Father Murphy was sexually abusing children, the documents show, but never reported it to criminal or civil authorities.
Source
Uzique
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yep. the catholic church also has known holocaust deniers approved by ratzinger as bishops... and not excommunicated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wi … 8bishop%29

they cover up shit and their clerical structure is full of fuckups. plain and simple.
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HaiBai
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Uzique wrote:

yep. the catholic church also has known holocaust deniers approved by ratzinger as bishops... and not excommunicated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wi … 8bishop%29

they cover up shit and their clerical structure is full of fuckups. plain and simple.
wait, you mean there's corrupt members in the catholic church?  oh my god i had no idea!
Uzique
dasein.
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well you're the one trotting along like a good little sheep to have your balls fondled by the catholic clergy every sunday, not me

so jog on mate
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HaiBai
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Uzique wrote:

well you're the one trotting along like a good little sheep to have your balls fondled by the catholic clergy every sunday, not me

so jog on mate

Uzique wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
k lets do some math.

2010 - 1950 = 60
10,000 / 60 = 166 cases per year

HaiBai wrote:

wait, you mean there's corrupt pedophiles in the catholic church?  oh my god i had no idea!
Macbeth
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Way to downplay 166 child molestations.
Uzique
dasein.
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k lets do some logic

10,000 reported and confirmed cases.

worldwide perception of the catholic church as a corrupt financial institution full of ex-nazis and pederasts = numbers dont matter

but hey, it's your religion, not mine. so i dunno why you're 'criticising' me.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-09-14 18:52:59)

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unnamednewbie13
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Macbeth wrote:

Imagine being like a 5,000 year old Vampire. Just think of all the shit you've seen.
I'd make it my business to prank the set of Twilight as often as possible.

But if there was a vampire that old, he'd probably be a doddering old dustfart sitting in a cave somewhere.
13urnzz
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Imagine being like a 5,000 year old Vampire. Just think of all the shit you've seen.
I'd make it my business to prank the set of Twilight as often as possible.
you could've, on the Peninsula it was all twilight this and twilight that . . .
unnamednewbie13
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burnzz wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Imagine being like a 5,000 year old Vampire. Just think of all the shit you've seen.
I'd make it my business to prank the set of Twilight as often as possible.
you could've, on the Peninsula it was all twilight this and twilight that . . .
But I don't have 5000-year vampire powers of illusion and magic and shit. I'm not going to prison for Twilight, and Forks is a long drive.
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derp take it to ee chat derp
unnamednewbie13
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Vampires/werewolves =/= angels/demons.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Vampires/werewolves =/= angels/demons.
what does that have to do with whether you attend church or not?
unnamednewbie13
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Because if you're religious, chances are that (if you're Christian) you believe in supernatural shit like the holy spirit, unless you're faking the whole thing to meet church chicks.
13urnzz
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

angels/demons.
hey, ask Uzique his opinion on the Dan Brown book . . .
11 Bravo
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stop it dude

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