Poll

Who attends church regularly? Or tries to.

i do10%10% - 14
i dont, but im christian29%29% - 40
i dont, im not christian60%60% - 83
Total: 137
Hunter/Jumper
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Duantless wrote:

you can also use it to fuck people

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
911 , crusades, Bosnia, Spanish Inquisition  *Behind the wood pile add your own,

* not that anyone would expect that.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-14 12:48:31)

Uzique
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Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
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RTHKI
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Uzique wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
17000 cases of rape in 1960 in the US, thats a bigger problem than your 10000 cases. and how many of those cases are real? since everyone in the US is sue happy
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Jenspm
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RTHKI wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
17000 cases of rape in 1960 in the US, thats a bigger problem than your 10000 cases.
Rape within a religion is so much worse on so many levels. Your religion is supposed to be the place you go for when you need help, someone to trust, hope in bad times - abusing this trust and your power to commit sexual acts is, imo, worse than an assault.
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Uzique
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RTHKI wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
17000 cases of rape in 1960 in the US, thats a bigger problem than your 10000 cases. and how many of those cases are real? since everyone in the US is sue happy
the problem is that 17,000 individual cases of rape aren't sponsored by an institution

priests are protected by cardinal law and the process of the catholic church in cases of child-abuse

so that makes 10,000 cases under the responsibility of one body: the catholic church

that's an institutional problem, not an individual one

good try though, chief
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but it isnt only in the US,  it is all over the world priests fucking and molesting little kids
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SamTheMan
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the priest who baptised me was done for child molesting a few years back
Uzique
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i used the US as an example because there are statistics on it and the guy i was replying to was from the US

the catholic church worldwide can get fucked, in my opinion... yes
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Hunter/Jumper
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Uzique wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the American Catholic Church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
in my opinion -
These people didn't use "Religion to abuse", They used the authority and trust it gave them over people. Further, If your kid gets molested and you go to the Church instead of the Police IMMEDIATELY you are 2nd the biggest factor in the problem.

An Official of any organization would be Less  willing to Destroy someones reputation otherwise.

In the last 400 years or so, It not the Churches place to punish offenders or enforce laws in the U.S.A.
I can not speak for religions with any real authority.

PS As I type this I hear that the Eiffel Tower is being Evacuated ROFLMAO

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-14 13:38:06)

Uzique
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as i already said the process of reporting abusive clerics to the local/national authorities is VERY shady

the catholic church hides, relocates and protects priests with a known record of molestation

an honest institution would hand them over and excommunicate them... not so with catholics
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HaiBai
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Uzique wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
lol gtfo.  if every single person in the world believed in catholicism, rape, crime, and murder would all drive down dramatically.

and i mean actually catholic, not the 'catholics' that go to church only for christmas.
13urnzz
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yeah, no.
11 Bravo
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HaiBai wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
lol gtfo.  if every single person in the world believed in catholicism, rape, crime, and murder would all drive down dramatically.

and i mean actually catholic, not the 'catholics' that go to church only for christmas.
you are so fucking stupid
SenorToenails
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HaiBai wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Blade4509 wrote:

Oh please do give an example Dauntless.
10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
lol gtfo.  if every single person in the world believed in catholicism, rape, crime, and murder would all drive down dramatically.

and i mean actually catholic, not the 'catholics' that go to church only for christmas.
'actual Catholics' have perpetrated some terrible crimes throughout history...that argument is pretty crap.
HaiBai
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11 Bravo wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

Uzique wrote:


10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the american catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
lol gtfo.  if every single person in the world believed in catholicism, rape, crime, and murder would all drive down dramatically.

and i mean actually catholic, not the 'catholics' that go to church only for christmas.
you are so fucking stupid
lol, my church of 500 families has not had a divorce, rape, or murder in the past 20 years.  gg?
Macbeth
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HaiBai wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

HaiBai wrote:


lol gtfo.  if every single person in the world believed in catholicism, rape, crime, and murder would all drive down dramatically.

and i mean actually catholic, not the 'catholics' that go to church only for christmas.
you are so fucking stupid
lol, my church of 500 families has not had a divorce, rape, or murder in the past 20 years.  gg?
Rape or murders that you know of.
SenorToenails
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HaiBai wrote:

lol, my church of 500 families has not had a divorce, rape, or murder in the past 20 years.  gg?
What you have there is called a statistical anomaly.  And that's assuming you could refute MacBeth's very valid point.
HaiBai
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Macbeth wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


you are so fucking stupid
lol, my church of 500 families has not had a divorce, rape, or murder in the past 20 years.  gg?
Rape or murders that you know of.
the thing is, you're all like "'actual Catholics' have perpetrated some terrible crimes throughout history".  well no shit but crime, rape and murder would still decrease, guarenteed.  i dont understand how anyone can argue that.
SenorToenails
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HaiBai wrote:

the thing is, you're all like "'actual Catholics' have perpetrated some terrible crimes throughout history".  well no shit but crime, rape and murder would still decrease, guarenteed.  i dont understand how anyone can argue that.
Do you really think that the lack of religion is what causes crime?  Violence is in human nature.  That tends to transcend religion.
Macbeth
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HaiBai wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

HaiBai wrote:


lol, my church of 500 families has not had a divorce, rape, or murder in the past 20 years.  gg?
Rape or murders that you know of.
the thing is, you're all like "'actual Catholics' have perpetrated some terrible crimes throughout history".  well no shit but crime, rape and murder would still decrease, guarenteed.  i dont understand how anyone can argue that.
I'm confirmed in the Catholic church and according to church records, I'm still a Catholic.

I think your point is : if everyone actually followed the teachings of Jesus then the crime rate would drop dramatically. That's probably true though it's really an unrealistic Utopian fantasy.
11 Bravo
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HaiBai wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

HaiBai wrote:


lol gtfo.  if every single person in the world believed in catholicism, rape, crime, and murder would all drive down dramatically.

and i mean actually catholic, not the 'catholics' that go to church only for christmas.
you are so fucking stupid
lol, my church of 500 families has not had a divorce, rape, or murder in the past 20 years.  gg?
lies.  prove it.
HaiBai
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Macbeth wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

Macbeth wrote:


Rape or murders that you know of.
the thing is, you're all like "'actual Catholics' have perpetrated some terrible crimes throughout history".  well no shit but crime, rape and murder would still decrease, guarenteed.  i dont understand how anyone can argue that.
if everyone actually followed the teachings of Jesus
it's sort of what i mean by a 'true catholic'.  of course people would still sin but i mean, if everyone was at same same 'level' of 'catholicism' as me, which is basically enough to go to church every week but bad enough to masturbate (lol not sure how good this example is), the world would be a much better place.

and im not a hardcore catholic who plans on being a priest either.

sure, it's a utopian fantasy, because there's no way everyone would believe in the same thing like that, i'm just saying, uzique pointing out a statistic of rape caused by catholicism is fucking delusional
11 Bravo
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but no gays or condoms amirite?
HaiBai
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no gays, no abortion, no marriage before sex.

gays actually wouldn't affect anythnig, so whatever.  abortion is a controversy.  no marriage before sex would make the world a better place though.
Macbeth
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HaiBai wrote:

no gays, no abortion, no marriage before sex.

gays actually wouldn't affect anythnig, so whatever.  abortion is a controversy.  no marriage before sex would make the world a better place though.
you mean no sex before marriage?

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