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Dilbert_X wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well, Bush wasn't exactly proactive about the border either.
Why would he? Seeing California collapse was in his interests.
nobody was proactive
Turquoise
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+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Harmor wrote:

Its a not a question of if but when the violence in Mexico will spill into the United States.  Even if Mexico bows to the drug cartels by making drugs legal, the violence will continue to escalate.

This `Nacroinsurency` will metastasize, unfortunately.

EDIT: Mexican police find car bomb in border city of Juarez; no one hurt in controlled detonation

Another car bomb...this kind of shit you see in Iraq and Afghanistan.  How long before we start seeing IED's?
Making drugs legal wouldn't be bowing to cartels.  It would actually hurt them, because the value of drugs in Mexico would plummet after that sort of move.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Dilbert_X wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well, Bush wasn't exactly proactive about the border either.
Why would he? Seeing California collapse was in his interests.
Uh...  what?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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California collapsing would prove liberals are wrong.
Fuck Israel
Cybargs
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its funny that cali is the most left state whilst producing 2 extremely right wing republican presidents.
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FEOS
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+1,182|6696|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

California collapsing would prove liberals are wrong.
That's the most asinine conspiracy theory I've seen in a while.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

California collapsing would prove liberals are wrong.
That's the most asinine conspiracy theory I've seen in a while.
Yeah...   Dilbert, California may have some major socially liberal agendas, but economically, they're very capitalistic.

A large part of why California is falling is because of reckless business practices and because of a really dysfunctional referendum system.

If California collapses, it will be more of a statement against reckless consumerism and a terrible budgeting system than anything regarding liberalism or conservatism.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Cybargs wrote:

its funny that cali is the most left state whilst producing 2 extremely right wing republican presidents.
California is a study in extremes.  There's not much middle ground over there.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6696|'Murka

Turquoise wrote:

A large part of why California is falling is because of reckless business practices and because of a really dysfunctional referendum system.

If California collapses, it will be more of a statement against reckless consumerism and a terrible budgeting system than anything regarding liberalism or conservatism.
This. Primarily the referendum system more than anything. So it's a failure in pure/direct democracy rather than representative/republican (small "r") democracy. A failure of unfettered capitalism and democracy would hardly suit Bush's agenda.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Harmor
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Well, Bush wasn't exactly proactive about the border either.
Why would he? Seeing California collapse was in his interests.
Bush had no interest in seeing California, the 8th largest economy in the world, collapse.  California, a sanctuary state, is doing it all by themselves.

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