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SenorToenails wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

You're missing the whole point of the society we live in. No one can perform all of the tasks that we require in our daily lives by themself. Could I cultivate my own food? Sure. But I can't drill the oil, refine it, and ship it to where I live by myself. Since I can't do these things, I'm reduced to plowing my fields with horses or oxen. Yes, it was done for thousands of years, but at what cost in terms of hours wasted vs powering up a combine and having it plant and harvest for me? Then there is the problem of mining and refining the iron ore necessary to create my plow and harnesses, the nails to build my home etc. We are completely and utterly dependent on each other for survival. This doesn't make us weaker as a species or individuals, it just reflects reality.

This is how humans have developed so far so quickly.

Indeed. It's the only thing that separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom.

Well you wouldnt need oxen and plows unless you you were producing mass quantities of crop. I use a rake and shovel in my garden, which could easily be fabricated. And I dont have an oh shit kit. We just live to hope for the best and prepare for the worst, thats all.

JohnG@lt wrote:

And good job thinking that where I currently live has any bearing on my skills as a human being. Here's the difference between the two of us in a nutshell. If society were to collapse, you'd go raid the nearest gun shop for rifles and ammunition. ........ Then I'd hit the gun shop, and I guarantee that I am a better shot than you are

And I wouldnt need to raid a gun shop, Im all set already. I told you that I hunt....wtf did you think I did it with? But yes if I had no gun I am confident I could still catch wild game because I have done so before in Bridgeport CA during one of my survival training courses while in the Marines. Which brings me to my next point. What makes you GURANTEE you are a better shot than I? I think you would be fucking killed simply you underestimate an opponent. I am not saying I am a better shot than you, however, I wouldnt make such a gurantee to somebody who grew up in Vermont and has had experience handling weapons for over 25 years not only as a private citizen but as a United States Marine as well. My Distinguished Shooting Medal from the Marines tells me Im not so shabby.

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Well you wouldnt need oxen and plows unless you you were producing mass quantities of crop. I use a rake and shovel in my garden, which could easily be fabricated. And I dont have an oh shit kit. We just live to hope for the best and prepare for the worst, thats all.

JohnG@lt wrote:

And good job thinking that where I currently live has any bearing on my skills as a human being. Here's the difference between the two of us in a nutshell. If society were to collapse, you'd go raid the nearest gun shop for rifles and ammunition. ........ Then I'd hit the gun shop, and I guarantee that I am a better shot than you are

And I wouldnt need to raid a gun shop, Im all set already. I told you that I hunt....wtf did you think I did it with? But yes if I had no gun I am confident I could still catch wild game because I have done so before in Bridgeport CA during one of my survival training courses while in the Marines. Which brings me to my next point. What makes you GURANTEE you are a better shot than I? I think you would be fucking killed simply you underestimate an opponent. I am not saying I am a better shot than you, however, I wouldnt make such a gurantee to somebody who grew up in Vermont and has had experience handling weapons for over 25 years not only as a private citizen but as a United States Marine as well. My Distinguished Shooting Medal from the Marines tells me Im not so shabby.

Because I earned my expert badge in the Army multiple times (rifles and machine guns) and have been shooting since I was eight (21 years)

Last edited by JohnG@lt (2010-08-27 10:11:10)

JohnG@lt wrote:

Because I earned my expert badge in the Army multiple times (rifles and machine guns) and have been shooting since I was eight (21 years)

So once again what makes you think your better? Answer my question please.
I have done all of the above as well so I want to know what is such a gurantee.....

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2010-08-27 10:15:39)

JohnG@lt wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Because I earned my expert badge in the Army multiple times (rifles and machine guns) and have been shooting since I was eight (21 years)

So once again what makes you think your better? Answer my question please.

Army > Marines.

Are you being serious right now?

Cybargs wrote:

Problem with marines is that theyd fuck anything DADT

This unfortunately is true, but we are a damn good shot.

So John would it be safe to say I can kick your ass? I mean Im 6'4" 258 lbs and only 13.4 % body fat. I go to the gym 5 days a week and can fight like a mother fucker. Actualy I wouldnt assume that because Im not an idiot and I have no clue as to your size or knowledge. This is why people like you get into trouble and need big brothers to bail their asses out.

JohnG@lt wrote:

Kind of. Mostly saying it because you've proven yourself to be a true brainless jarhead. Between wishing to live in a fantasy world and somehow thinking that where I currently live has any bearing on anything, you haven't shown anything more than that you watch too many survival shows on Discovery.

There you go assuming shit again. I'll tell you what. We live about an hour and a half from eachother. How bout we meet half way and record a fight between the two of us for all of the internet to witness and then decide who watches to many television shows? Im throwing it out there.....dont be a bitch.

Last edited by deeznutz1245 (2010-08-27 10:25:08)

Thats the thing....it all started with me stating what I would prefer based on my own specific interests only to have the fucking powers that be tell me that Im wrong and that they gurantee they can out shoot me, lol.

At no point did I say my way would work better than another, which is what your debating. I fucking love my truck and my iphone. I would be seriously pissed if I had no wifi. But the point remains that it would personally not affect my ability to survive if I lost it all and I cant even express that without dingleberries like you getting you panties in a bunch over it.

eat shit maggot.

JohnG@lt wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Thats the thing....it all started with me stating what I would prefer based on my own specific interests only to have the fucking powers that be tell me that Im wrong and that they gurantee they can out shoot me, lol.

You are wrong. Can you make a single item that you use on a daily basis? Could you replace any of the items you would need for survival if the shit hit the fan? No. Ok, so stop saying idiotic shit like we should go back to a barter system and plan for the end of civilization.

John, have you been in a third world country outside of the middle east?  Many people in tropical and sub-tropical Asian countries live just fine without the necessities of modern life.

Ilocano wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

deeznutz1245 wrote:

Thats the thing....it all started with me stating what I would prefer based on my own specific interests only to have the fucking powers that be tell me that Im wrong and that they gurantee they can out shoot me, lol.

You are wrong. Can you make a single item that you use on a daily basis? Could you replace any of the items you would need for survival if the shit hit the fan? No. Ok, so stop saying idiotic shit like we should go back to a barter system and plan for the end of civilization.

John, have you been in a third world country outside of the middle east?  Many people in tropical and sub-tropical Asian countries live just fine without the necessities of modern life.

Sure, but I wouldn't trade my standard of living for theirs.