BF2S Forums Mosque to be built by Ground Zero?

Stingray24 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

My girlfriend had me watch this today, and while he's very articulate and I find myself nodding along, I still can't shake my belief that the Constitution is paramount and we can't tear it up piece by piece to placate people who are offended.

So which part of the Constitution gives a religious group the right to build their place of worship at the site of a national tragedy perpetrated by radicals of said religion?  Guess some would argue the establishment clause, but that's free exercise of religion which doesn't require a building.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

The first and third amendments.

The hell with it.

Let 'em build a giant mosque.

Let 'em call it Abu Ali's House of Hate and Jihad Imporium - Death to Yankee Infidels : Over 1 Billion bombed on a big neon sign out front too.

Then let the NSA bug the living crap out of it while it's under construction, plant some good facial recognition camera systems across the street watching the front entrance, perhaps a few Prophet-Hammer systems sniffing out the cellphone traffic in the area, embed a few Agents amongst the staff, etc etc.

TL/DR version:  If it's for peaceful purposes, fine, whatever.  If it's going to be a hate-mongering terrorist-factory, fine, but make sure the NSA, CIA, FBI, and the rest of the alphabet soup agencies are watching closely.

Last edited by rdx-fx (2010-08-16 21:07:21)

Cybargs wrote:

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karma +1

ATG wrote:

http://vhemt.org/

I'm on board.

Cybargs wrote:

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Damn you, just saw this on Digg and was about to post it when I saw you'd beaten me to it.

Dilbert_X wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

ATG wrote:

http://vhemt.org/

I'm on board.

OK, you guys try it.
Report back to me on how you get on.
I'll report back on how the earth is with just me on it.

I'd suggest compulsory extreme sports for old people as a start.

I'm reading through and I honestly don't know whether I'm meant to take it seriously or not. It seems serious, but now and again there's a gem which just makes me think "Nah that's gotta be deliberate"

Roc18 wrote:

"In fairness, we've been building 'ground zeros' near Iraqi mosques since March 2003. "

true dat

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

It ended the war they started.  Yes, we all know how horrific it was, but war, in general, is pretty horrific.  What part of surrender did they not understand?  And as Turq pointed out, we could have firebombed those cities and achieved the same casualty success.  Those two wonderful bombs brought a special, needed clarity to the situation. 

we will never apologize for what we did.

Indeed. Because of the HBO series "The Pacific", I just finished reading "Helmet For My Pillow" and "With the Old Breed". I dare anyone to read those books, books written through the eyes of two common infantrymen, and state that the shortest route to ending the war wasn't the correct route no matter what the cost.

When the choice is between losing millions of your own people and millions of your enemy's, I'll go with the latter.

It wasn't even limited to us or them, it potentially saved millions of Japanese lives as well.

Roc18 wrote:

"In fairness, we've been building 'ground zeros' near Iraqi mosques since March 2003. "

But:

- When we bomb them its in the spirit of freedom and democracy

- When they do it its because they're evil muslims/japs/gooks etc

Dilbert_X wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

"In fairness, we've been building 'ground zeros' near Iraqi mosques since March 2003. "

But:

- When we bomb them its in the spirit of freedom and democracy

- When they do it its because they're evil muslims/japs/gooks etc

Still hateful and wrong -but keep on a spewing.  We (US TAXPAYERS) have rebuild and saved mosques, recently.  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 … d-mosques/

I hope they build the mosque and someone blows it the fuck up.

Spark wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Indeed. Because of the HBO series "The Pacific", I just finished reading "Helmet For My Pillow" and "With the Old Breed". I dare anyone to read those books, books written through the eyes of two common infantrymen, and state that the shortest route to ending the war wasn't the correct route no matter what the cost.

When the choice is between losing millions of your own people and millions of your enemy's, I'll go with the latter.

Would've saved far, far, far more Japanese than American lives. I shudder to think of what would've happened when you charge old men and schoolgirls with wooden batons against hardened troops with automatic weapons (which was the plan)

Correct. In a vacuum, one can say "zomg Americans were meanies" but we don't live in a vacuum and the reality is that the 'shock and awe' of the nuclear weapons dropping allowed the Japanese leadership to save face and surrender honorably (in their eyes, because the war was already long lost).

Spark wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

I'm on board.

OK, you guys try it.
Report back to me on how you get on.
I'll report back on how the earth is with just me on it.

I'd suggest compulsory extreme sports for old people as a start.

I'm reading through and I honestly don't know whether I'm meant to take it seriously or not. It seems serious, but now and again there's a gem which just makes me think "Nah that's gotta be deliberate"

About all I read was...
"Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed"

And as my arch nemesi are babies I thought it was a good idea.