PC Gamers Own Console Gamers in Cross Platform MS Testing

2010-07-23 15:27:35

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SonderKommando: Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....; +564|6879|The darkside of Denver

In a test at Microsoft top console gamers were pitted against mediocre PC gamers. The results proved what we have often laid claim to; that PC gamers would run circles around console gamers.

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The program would have let Xbox users play against PC gamers over windows live but was soon canned after the embarrased console gamers probably bitched too much.

2010-07-23 15:31:40

#2

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6007|Catherine Black

Coulda predicted that would happen, it's not a mystery.

2010-07-23 15:35:54

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SonderKommando: Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....; +564|6879|The darkside of Denver

But could you imagine if this went out of testing? What if PC gamers could play BFBC2 against Xbox360 players, I can only dream of teh carnage.

2010-07-23 15:36:56

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Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6961|FUCK UBISOFT

shadowrun

2010-07-23 15:39:05

#5

Finray: Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro; +2,629|6007|Catherine Black

SonderKommando wrote:
But could you imagine if this went out of testing? What if PC gamers could play BFBC2 against Xbox360 players, I can only dream of teh carnage.

I'd never have a negative K/D ratio again.

Oh wait that already happens

2010-07-23 15:39:54

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Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6961|FUCK UBISOFT

Finray wrote:
SonderKommando wrote:
But could you imagine if this went out of testing? What if PC gamers could play BFBC2 against Xbox360 players, I can only dream of teh carnage.
I'd never have a negative K/D ratio again.

Oh wait that already happens

I'd think you would rage if you had any 360 kids on your team

2010-07-23 15:43:30

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mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6874

Even when using a controller I still do pretty well against people who play nothing but consoles. I'd say it's more than just the physical actions of aiming with a mouse vs. a controller; a lot of these people have no "common sense" (gaming-wise) and no inkling of tactics. Too many years of playing against stupid AI in singleplayer missions makes them treat online humans as equally worthless.

2010-07-23 15:45:15

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SonderKommando: Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....; +564|6879|The darkside of Denver

mtb0minime wrote:
Even when using a controller I still do pretty well against people who play nothing but consoles. I'd say it's more than just the physical actions of aiming with a mouse vs. a controller; a lot of these people have no "common sense" (gaming-wise) and no inkling of tactics. Too many years of playing against stupid AI in singleplayer missions makes them treat online humans as equally worthless.

Matt, sometimes I want to punch you in the eye. Sometimes I want to bend you over and man fuck you.

2010-07-23 15:57:22

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Miggle: FUCK UBISOFT; +1,411|6961|FUCK UBISOFT

mtb0minime wrote:
Even when using a controller I still do pretty well against people who play nothing but consoles. I'd say it's more than just the physical actions of aiming with a mouse vs. a controller; a lot of these people have no "common sense" (gaming-wise) and no inkling of tactics. Too many years of playing against stupid AI in singleplayer missions makes them treat online humans as equally worthless.

I have found that I tend to do better than friends in halo split screen, despite only playing it at their houses as opposed to how they play it 24/7.

2010-07-23 16:29:30

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War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Yeah same here.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2010-07-23 16:46:21

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Brasso: member; +1,549|6849

Miggle wrote:
mtb0minime wrote:
Even when using a controller I still do pretty well against people who play nothing but consoles. I'd say it's more than just the physical actions of aiming with a mouse vs. a controller; a lot of these people have no "common sense" (gaming-wise) and no inkling of tactics. Too many years of playing against stupid AI in singleplayer missions makes them treat online humans as equally worthless.
I have found that I tend to do better than friends in halo split screen, despite only playing it at their houses as opposed to how they play it 24/7.

screenpeeking tbh

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2010-07-23 18:15:41

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unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6991|PNW

Basically proving what PC gamers already knew. I can testify as to how lethal the keyboard/mouse combo can be just by showing choice youtube clips of Quake 3: Arena twitch rocket sniping while the shooter and target are moving through the air in different directions.

2010-07-23 18:20:59

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Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5805

SonderKommando wrote:
In a test at Microsoft top console gamers were pitted against mediocre PC gamers. The results proved what we have often laid claim to; that PC gamers would run circles around console gamers.

Whatever helps you guys feel better about yourselves go for it.

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2010-07-23 18:29:06

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Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5398|Sydney

There is simply no way you're going to have the same level of control with a controller as you do with a mouse and keyboard (when playing FPS anyway).

2010-07-23 18:30:22

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jsnipy: ...; +3,276|6742|...

I saw this in /. earlier, was dying to post it

Jaekus wrote:
There is simply no way you're going to have the same level of control with a controller as you do with a mouse and keyboard (when playing FPS anyway).

I was making this argument during the 007 era in the n64

2010-07-23 18:32:14

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Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5398|Sydney

jsnipy wrote:
I saw this in /. earlier, was dying to post it

Jaekus wrote:
There is simply no way you're going to have the same level of control with a controller as you do with a mouse and keyboard (when playing FPS anyway).
I was making this argument during the 007 era in the n64

Yeah I found Goldeneye frustrating at times simply because of the controller.

2010-07-23 18:37:52

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6687

Saying the controller is just as good at FPS or RTS games is like saying high-heels are as good for running as sneakers are.

I mean, it's possible, but it's clumsy, awkward and no where near as effective no matter what the skills of the operator is.

2010-07-23 20:47:04

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unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6991|PNW

Macbeth wrote:
SonderKommando wrote:
In a test at Microsoft top console gamers were pitted against mediocre PC gamers. The results proved what we have often laid claim to; that PC gamers would run circles around console gamers.
Whatever helps you guys feel better about yourselves go for it.

Is it even really about that? PC gamers already know the keyboard and mouse are overall better than console gamepads. I think it proved more to console gamers that k/m is lethal.

For a recent example, I've gotten used to Red Dead Redemption, but a lot of heartache would be solved if I could just use a MOUSE instead of autoaiming with a gamepad and stressing out about how to remember target selection while I'm gunning against six bandits on horseback.

I will give the gamepad credit for being superior when it comes to platformers and certain action games.

2010-07-23 21:33:48

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jsnipy: ...; +3,276|6742|...

pads are great for racing and fighting games

2010-07-23 21:40:09

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unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6991|PNW

I prefer joysticks for racing if I don't have a wheel.

2010-07-24 14:27:13

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LividBovine: The Year of the Cow!; +175|6599|MN

mtb0minime wrote:
Even when using a controller I still do pretty well against people who play nothing but consoles. I'd say it's more than just the physical actions of aiming with a mouse vs. a controller; a lot of these people have no "common sense" (gaming-wise) and no inkling of tactics. Too many years of playing against stupid AI in singleplayer missions makes them treat online humans as equally worthless.

True this. I really never played console games much, but my brother in-law and his buddy did, a lot. They asked me to join them playing Goldeneye when it came out. I hated every minute of it really. The whole trying to circle strafe and aim with 2 joysticks was driving me crazy. Of course they were both complaining about not being able to hit me. I think the console trains you to think about what is on the screen only. In PC FPS you really are more in tune with everything around you.

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2010-07-25 01:44:42

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DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6900|Disaster Free Zone

LividBovine wrote:
mtb0minime wrote:
Even when using a controller I still do pretty well against people who play nothing but consoles. I'd say it's more than just the physical actions of aiming with a mouse vs. a controller; a lot of these people have no "common sense" (gaming-wise) and no inkling of tactics. Too many years of playing against stupid AI in singleplayer missions makes them treat online humans as equally worthless.
True this. I really never played console games much, but my brother in-law and his buddy did, a lot. They asked me to join them playing Goldeneye when it came out. I hated every minute of it really. The whole trying to circle strafe and aim with 2 joysticks was driving me crazy. Of course they were both complaining about not being able to hit me. I think the console trains you to think about what is on the screen only. In PC FPS you really are more in tune with everything around you.

N64 only has 1 joystick...

2010-07-25 02:18:04

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6372|what

DrunkFace wrote:
LividBovine wrote:
mtb0minime wrote:
Even when using a controller I still do pretty well against people who play nothing but consoles. I'd say it's more than just the physical actions of aiming with a mouse vs. a controller; a lot of these people have no "common sense" (gaming-wise) and no inkling of tactics. Too many years of playing against stupid AI in singleplayer missions makes them treat online humans as equally worthless.
True this. I really never played console games much, but my brother in-law and his buddy did, a lot. They asked me to join them playing Goldeneye when it came out. I hated every minute of it really. The whole trying to circle strafe and aim with 2 joysticks was driving me crazy. Of course they were both complaining about not being able to hit me. I think the console trains you to think about what is on the screen only. In PC FPS you really are more in tune with everything around you.
N64 only has 1 joystick...

And three handholds.

Motherfucking octopus be playing with that joystick, yo!

2010-07-25 02:36:22

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Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6840|London, England

fps is the only genre pc gaming cares about anyway

2010-07-25 02:39:36

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DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6900|Disaster Free Zone

Mekstizzle wrote:
fps is the only genre pc gaming cares about anyway

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