I think lowing would have owned a fleet of slaves if he had lived in the mid 19th century
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I think plagiarism, adultery, deceit, lies and cheating kinda sorta go to the heart of ones character, does it not? If not, what does?Turquoise wrote:
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asplowing wrote:
I am sorry, was there something I posted that was untrue? It has all been documented turquoise. He cheated on his wife, and he cheated on his PHD.Turquoise wrote:
Revisionist history seems to be very popular in this forum....
Alright, I'll give you the adultery and the plagiarism in the dissertation. My bad.
We definitely disagree on his overall character though.
What does it say about your character if you cheat on your wife and children ( consistently mind you)?
Last edited by lowing (2010-07-21 17:09:46)
Once again no surprise here. Tell ya what, surprise us all, and actually post a rebuttal to what has been presented.eleven bravo wrote:
I think lowing would have owned a fleet of slaves if he had lived in the mid 19th century
i would have...just to bang the chickseleven bravo wrote:
I think lowing would have owned a fleet of slaves if he had lived in the mid 19th century
While writing the declaration of independence in your spare time right?11 Bravo wrote:
i would have...just to bang the chickseleven bravo wrote:
I think lowing would have owned a fleet of slaves if he had lived in the mid 19th century
we're all african11 Bravo wrote:
i would have...just to bang the chickseleven bravo wrote:
I think lowing would have owned a fleet of slaves if he had lived in the mid 19th century
Tu Stultus Es
well thats if you believe the bibleeleven bravo wrote:
we're all african11 Bravo wrote:
i would have...just to bang the chickseleven bravo wrote:
I think lowing would have owned a fleet of slaves if he had lived in the mid 19th century
Oops.
She should sue for racism.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10716237The White House has apologised to a black US official fired after a video appeared to show her making racially charged remarks about a white farmer.
Agriculture department official Shirley Sherrod was exonerated in the full video, which surfaced on Tuesday.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the apology reflected "the feelings" of President Barack Obama.
Meanwhile, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack has offered Ms Sherrod a new position.
Mr Vilsack told reporters at a White House press conference that he accepted responsibility for the affair.
"I did not think before I acted and for that reason this poor woman has gone through a very difficult time," Mr Vilsack said.
Mr Vilsack said he had apologised to Ms Sherrod, who had accepted his apology and "was extraordinarily gracious".
In the edited video clip, Mrs Sherrod appears to say that in 1986 she did not give a Georgia farmer all the assistance she could to save his farm because black farmers were losing their land and he was white.
Mrs Sherrod was videoed giving a speech in March at a dinner of a Georgia chapter of the NAACP, a prominent civil rights group.
The clip was picked up on by conservatives as evidence of anti-white racism in President Barack Obama's government and within the NAACP, an organisation seen as Democratic-leaning.
Mrs Sherrod was promptly sacked, her remarks condemned by the administration and the NAACP.
But the video of her full speech, which surfaced on Tuesday evening, shows her explaining she learned from the incident that poverty, not race, is the key factor in rural development. She also said she ultimately worked hard to save the farmer's land.
"Working with him made me see that it's really about those who have versus those who haven't," she told the NAACP in March.
"They could be black, they could be white, they could be Hispanic. And it made me realise then that I needed to help poor people - those who don't have access the way others have."
The NAACP said the organisation had been "duped" by conservative groups.
"We have come to the conclusion we were snookered... into believing she had harmed white farmers because of racial bias," President Benjamin Todd Jealous said in a statement.
"It makes me feel better that the apology is finally coming," Mrs Sherrod said after the White House said sorry. "I accept their apology."
In interviews on Tuesday Mrs Sherrod complained that government officials would not heed her explanation and accused them of ousting her because they were afraid of a conservative media backlash.
She should sue for racism.
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-07-21 17:17:31)
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A lot of people have inner demons. Some are worse than others. I try to take in all of a person's accomplishments along with their flaws in order to evaluate their character.lowing wrote:
I think plagiarism, adultery, deceit, lies and cheating kinda sorta go to the heart of ones character, does it not? If not, what does?Turquoise wrote:
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asplowing wrote:
I am sorry, was there something I posted that was untrue? It has all been documented turquoise. He cheated on his wife, and he cheated on his PHD.
Alright, I'll give you the adultery and the plagiarism in the dissertation. My bad.
We definitely disagree on his overall character though.
What does it say about your character if you cheat on your wife and children ( consistently mind you)?
I honestly don't think that plagiarism or cheating negates the accomplishments that MLK made.
Gandhi had a darker side as well. He was a failure as a father to his son Harilal, but that doesn't outweigh what he achieved for his people as a whole.
In short, everyone has flaws. Sometimes, they are terrible ones, but you have to take the good with the bad, and vice versa.
That he was continuing a long tradition of powerful men having mistresses.lowing wrote:
What does it say about your character if you cheat on your wife and children ( consistently mind you)?
He did plagiarize his PHD essay, and cheat on his wife, those are indisputable facts. The reason why it doesn't change his legacy is: the cheating on his wife and the plagiarism didn't have any relation to the civil rights movement.
or mitochondrial DNA...11 Bravo wrote:
well thats if you believe the bibleeleven bravo wrote:
we're all african11 Bravo wrote:
i would have...just to bang the chicks
A little late to the party.Dilbert_X wrote:
Oops.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10716237The White House has apologised to a black US official fired after a video appeared to show her making racially charged remarks about a white farmer.
Agriculture department official Shirley Sherrod was exonerated in the full video, which surfaced on Tuesday.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the apology reflected "the feelings" of President Barack Obama.
Meanwhile, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack has offered Ms Sherrod a new position.
Mr Vilsack told reporters at a White House press conference that he accepted responsibility for the affair.
"I did not think before I acted and for that reason this poor woman has gone through a very difficult time," Mr Vilsack said.
Mr Vilsack said he had apologised to Ms Sherrod, who had accepted his apology and "was extraordinarily gracious".
In the edited video clip, Mrs Sherrod appears to say that in 1986 she did not give a Georgia farmer all the assistance she could to save his farm because black farmers were losing their land and he was white.
Mrs Sherrod was videoed giving a speech in March at a dinner of a Georgia chapter of the NAACP, a prominent civil rights group.
The clip was picked up on by conservatives as evidence of anti-white racism in President Barack Obama's government and within the NAACP, an organisation seen as Democratic-leaning.
Mrs Sherrod was promptly sacked, her remarks condemned by the administration and the NAACP.
But the video of her full speech, which surfaced on Tuesday evening, shows her explaining she learned from the incident that poverty, not race, is the key factor in rural development. She also said she ultimately worked hard to save the farmer's land.
"Working with him made me see that it's really about those who have versus those who haven't," she told the NAACP in March.
"They could be black, they could be white, they could be Hispanic. And it made me realise then that I needed to help poor people - those who don't have access the way others have."
The NAACP said the organisation had been "duped" by conservative groups.
"We have come to the conclusion we were snookered... into believing she had harmed white farmers because of racial bias," President Benjamin Todd Jealous said in a statement.
"It makes me feel better that the apology is finally coming," Mrs Sherrod said after the White House said sorry. "I accept their apology."
In interviews on Tuesday Mrs Sherrod complained that government officials would not heed her explanation and accused them of ousting her because they were afraid of a conservative media backlash.
She should sue for racism.
evolution nagger. people came from africa11 Bravo wrote:
well thats if you believe the bibleeleven bravo wrote:
we're all african11 Bravo wrote:
i would have...just to bang the chicks
Tu Stultus Es
yeah and the cop should sue Henry Lewis Gates, but I doubt there would be any support for that in this forum. In fact even after the FACTS came out about Gates behavior there was still little in the way of condemnation for it from this membership. Double standard yields it ugly head yet again.Dilbert_X wrote:
Oops.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10716237The White House has apologised to a black US official fired after a video appeared to show her making racially charged remarks about a white farmer.
Agriculture department official Shirley Sherrod was exonerated in the full video, which surfaced on Tuesday.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the apology reflected "the feelings" of President Barack Obama.
Meanwhile, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack has offered Ms Sherrod a new position.
Mr Vilsack told reporters at a White House press conference that he accepted responsibility for the affair.
"I did not think before I acted and for that reason this poor woman has gone through a very difficult time," Mr Vilsack said.
Mr Vilsack said he had apologised to Ms Sherrod, who had accepted his apology and "was extraordinarily gracious".
In the edited video clip, Mrs Sherrod appears to say that in 1986 she did not give a Georgia farmer all the assistance she could to save his farm because black farmers were losing their land and he was white.
Mrs Sherrod was videoed giving a speech in March at a dinner of a Georgia chapter of the NAACP, a prominent civil rights group.
The clip was picked up on by conservatives as evidence of anti-white racism in President Barack Obama's government and within the NAACP, an organisation seen as Democratic-leaning.
Mrs Sherrod was promptly sacked, her remarks condemned by the administration and the NAACP.
But the video of her full speech, which surfaced on Tuesday evening, shows her explaining she learned from the incident that poverty, not race, is the key factor in rural development. She also said she ultimately worked hard to save the farmer's land.
"Working with him made me see that it's really about those who have versus those who haven't," she told the NAACP in March.
"They could be black, they could be white, they could be Hispanic. And it made me realise then that I needed to help poor people - those who don't have access the way others have."
The NAACP said the organisation had been "duped" by conservative groups.
"We have come to the conclusion we were snookered... into believing she had harmed white farmers because of racial bias," President Benjamin Todd Jealous said in a statement.
"It makes me feel better that the apology is finally coming," Mrs Sherrod said after the White House said sorry. "I accept their apology."
In interviews on Tuesday Mrs Sherrod complained that government officials would not heed her explanation and accused them of ousting her because they were afraid of a conservative media backlash.
She should sue for racism.
For the record, I thought Gates was an asshole.
The discussion is about conservative pressure groups editing a video to make someone appear to say something they hadn't.lowing wrote:
yeah and the cop should sue Henry Lewis Gates, but I doubt there would be any support for that in this forum. In fact even after the FACTS came out about Gates behavior there was still little in the way of condemnation for it from this membership. Double standard yields it ugly head yet again.
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nope. although that would explain my hang loweleven bravo wrote:
evolution nagger. people came from africa11 Bravo wrote:
well thats if you believe the bibleeleven bravo wrote:
we're all african
we're all cousins
Tu Stultus Es
For the most part I agree. However, when one builds an image of morality and righteousness for themselves, then preaches it, all with a goal of forwarding an agenda, I find it harder to excuses their trespasses, as those trespasses are more meaningful and their message has less credibility and merit.Turquoise wrote:
A lot of people have inner demons. Some are worse than others. I try to take in all of a person's accomplishments along with their flaws in order to evaluate their character.lowing wrote:
I think plagiarism, adultery, deceit, lies and cheating kinda sorta go to the heart of ones character, does it not? If not, what does?Turquoise wrote:
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/mlking.asp
Alright, I'll give you the adultery and the plagiarism in the dissertation. My bad.
We definitely disagree on his overall character though.
What does it say about your character if you cheat on your wife and children ( consistently mind you)?
I honestly don't think that plagiarism or cheating negates the accomplishments that MLK made.
Gandhi had a darker side as well. He was a failure as a father to his son Harilal, but that doesn't outweigh what he achieved for his people as a whole.
In short, everyone has flaws. Sometimes, they are terrible ones, but you have to take the good with the bad, and vice versa.
How would you react to a book written by Mark Sanford on the sanctity of marriage, or a book written by Don King on the integrity of a good clean fight?
Last edited by lowing (2010-07-21 17:40:48)
Or a book by George Bush on honesty in politics?
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I see ya got the point, now how about addressing it?Dilbert_X wrote:
Or a book by George Bush on honesty in politics?
Trouble is you're blind to one side of the argument, so there is no real point arguing.lowing wrote:
I see ya got the point, now how about addressing it?Dilbert_X wrote:
Or a book by George Bush on honesty in politics?
Fuck Israel
que?eleven bravo wrote:
we're all cousins
tu sabes
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thats all i got dude