Aren't they updating the Ac130?
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Somalia - Took out some civilians.JohnG@lt wrote:
We're saying this trash doesn't belong in DST because it is neither debate nor serious talk. Who gives a flying fuck about the AC-130s replacement? Has it even been used since Vietnam?eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
So you're saying wait until the planes can't fly before we start to ponder what the replacement will be?
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ya sureDilbert_X wrote:
Somalia - Took out some civilians.JohnG@lt wrote:
We're saying this trash doesn't belong in DST because it is neither debate nor serious talk. Who gives a flying fuck about the AC-130s replacement? Has it even been used since Vietnam?eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
So you're saying wait until the planes can't fly before we start to ponder what the replacement will be?
i dunno, lol
Skinnies with guns are civilians dont ya know11 Bravo wrote:
ya sureDilbert_X wrote:
Somalia - Took out some civilians.JohnG@lt wrote:
We're saying this trash doesn't belong in DST because it is neither debate nor serious talk. Who gives a flying fuck about the AC-130s replacement? Has it even been used since Vietnam?
o right...ya my bad. and dilberts extensive combat experience would tell him that tbh.
Thats funny, how many Americans own guns but consider themselves civilians?Cybargs wrote:
Skinnies with guns are civilians dont ya know11 Bravo wrote:
ya sureDilbert_X wrote:
Somalia - Took out some civilians.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/01/0 … qaeda.html
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all i see is speculation gj dogbertDilbert_X wrote:
Thats funny, how many Americans own guns but consider themselves civilians?Cybargs wrote:
Skinnies with guns are civilians dont ya know11 Bravo wrote:
ya sure
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/01/0 … qaeda.html
funny i guess aussies are retards
Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-07-13 23:38:26)
I don't see speculation (except from the military), just witness reports.
Witnesses said 31 civilians, including two newlyweds, were killed in the helicopter assault. A Somali Defence Ministry official identified the helicopters as American.
A local tribal elder told Agence France-Presse that 19 civilians were killed, while witnesses said at least four civilians were killed in a reported second strike that day near Afmadow.
The AC-130 gunship, used extensively in Vietnam, is capable of firing thousands of rounds per minute using its machine guns and cannons, according to the military technology website of the Federation of American Scientists. Sources said many bodies were seen on the ground after the strike, but there is as of yet no confirmation of the identities.
The targets were believed to include the senior al-Qaeda leader in East Africa, and an al-Qaeda operative wanted for his involvement in the 1998 bombings of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-07-13 23:42:24)
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"The report could not be independently verified"
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"The report could not be independently verified"
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Most probably because journalists couldn't get in there.11 Bravo wrote:
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"The report could not be independently verified"
But of course anything the military say is fact
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and anything you say is fact...specially cuz you were there. derp derp
Didn't say that, now provide independent verifcation of the military side of the story plz.
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If they take up arms in an armed conflict they'd still be declared as hostiles derp.Dilbert_X wrote:
Thats funny, how many Americans own guns but consider themselves civilians?Cybargs wrote:
Skinnies with guns are civilians dont ya know11 Bravo wrote:
ya sure
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/01/0 … qaeda.html
In a war zone, pick up a gun you're declared hot.
Edit: Even the UN has called Somalia a failed state. How can anyone trust their bullshit lol.
Last edited by Cybargs (2010-07-13 23:55:00)
why? i didnt post it to try and prove something. derpDilbert_X wrote:
Didn't say that, now provide independent verifcation of the military side of the story plz.
Pretty F'ing sure they didn't have an AC-130 in the air when Operation Gothic Serpent went to shit.
If they had, Shugart and Gordon probably wouldn't have died trying to defend that crash site by themselves.
Thank "Free Willy" Clinton for that - his whole policy with the military seemed to be 'send enough so I can look like I'm doing something, but not so much that I have to actually make hard decisions and interrupt my blowjobs to give a speech on CNN explaining things'
If they had, Shugart and Gordon probably wouldn't have died trying to defend that crash site by themselves.
Thank "Free Willy" Clinton for that - his whole policy with the military seemed to be 'send enough so I can look like I'm doing something, but not so much that I have to actually make hard decisions and interrupt my blowjobs to give a speech on CNN explaining things'
Aye. If you remember General Garrison's speech in BHD (going by the movie here, heh), says he requested light armour and AC130 support, but Washington, in all its wizdom, decided against this... too high profile.
Also, didnt you know? Bravo took out Aidid.
Also, didnt you know? Bravo took out Aidid.
noice
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ … t/ac-x.htm
Something entirely new.
Assuming it survives budget cuts.
IIRC, the intent has been to look at smaller aircraft for counterinsurgency ops, like the AC-27 and others.
Something entirely new.
Assuming it survives budget cuts.
IIRC, the intent has been to look at smaller aircraft for counterinsurgency ops, like the AC-27 and others.
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That is what I heard in Jane's Defense website, the AC-130U were upgrading comms or sensors....can't find the article though. Most of JDW information is locked down for paying customers, bastardsaerodynamic wrote:
Aren't they updating the Ac130?
Yes, we know, the brains trust running the military operations in Somalia wanted to use AC130s to level central Mogadishu - that would have helped a lot.rdx-fx wrote:
Pretty F'ing sure they didn't have an AC-130 in the air when Operation Gothic Serpent went to shit.
If they had, Shugart and Gordon probably wouldn't have died trying to defend that crash site by themselves.
Thank "Free Willy" Clinton for that - his whole policy with the military seemed to be 'send enough so I can look like I'm doing something, but not so much that I have to actually make hard decisions and interrupt my blowjobs to give a speech on CNN explaining things'
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Having had no USAF experiance or Government funding experiance or any kind of inside knowledge on the innter workings of multi billion dollar military deals I shan't be speculating, Pace.
I'd buy this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50
It can circle-strafe and everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50
It can circle-strafe and everything.
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-07-14 06:15:54)
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Nope, it wasn't over there. They were denied the support because of fears it would escalate things. This was prior to the Blackhawk Down incident.Dilbert_X wrote:
Somalia - Took out some civilians.JohnG@lt wrote:
We're saying this trash doesn't belong in DST because it is neither debate nor serious talk. Who gives a flying fuck about the AC-130s replacement? Has it even been used since Vietnam?eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
So you're saying wait until the planes can't fly before we start to ponder what the replacement will be?
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It was there later though.JohnG@lt wrote:
Nope, it wasn't over there. They were denied the support because of fears it would escalate things. This was prior to the Blackhawk Down incident.Dilbert_X wrote:
Somalia - Took out some civilians.JohnG@lt wrote:
We're saying this trash doesn't belong in DST because it is neither debate nor serious talk. Who gives a flying fuck about the AC-130s replacement? Has it even been used since Vietnam?
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