Macbeth
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+2,444|5816

Frustrated by their inability to find the notorious killer known as the Grim Sleeper, whose DNA was not in a law enforcement database, Los Angeles police this spring asked the state to look for a DNA profile similar enough to be a possible relative of the killer.

In April, state computers produced a list of 200 genetic profiles of people in the database who might be related to the alleged serial killer. Among the top five ranked as the most likely relatives was a profile that shared a common genetic marker with the crime-scene DNA at each of 15 locations that the crime lab examined.

Scientists knew that a profile with that sort of matching pattern indicated a parent-child relationship.

To winnow the candidates further, and knowing that their suspect had to be a man, they tested the DNA of the 200 offenders whose profiles resembled the crime-scene DNA to determine if any appeared to share the Y chromosome, which boys inherit from their fathers.
There was one match, and it was the same profile that had shared all 15 markers on the first round of testing.


Excitement swept the room at the state DNA laboratory in Richmond where the match was made. Jill Spriggs, chief of the state's Bureau of Forensic Services, recalls a feeling of "amazement" when she learned of the breakthrough: The two rounds of tests almost certainly had located a son of the suspect -- the first high-profile U.S. case cracked by a technique known as familial DNA searching.
That's fucking crazy. Finding serial killers through their relatives is impressive.

If this method existed years ago, the BTK killer would have gotten caught in no time. Still wouldn't have caught Gacy or Dahmer who disposed of their victims properly.

Anyway hell of a breakthrough.
Roger Lesboules
Ah ben tabarnak!
+316|6808|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!
Impressive....

Cant fucking wait for the season 5 of Dexter, damn!
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7010|Great Brown North

Roger Lesboules wrote:

Impressive....

Cant fucking wait for the season 5 of Dexter, damn!
me either





this is why some police associations  here are pushing for people to get their DNA taken when they're born
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6880

Unless I'm understanding this wrong, it does require the killer to have relatives who have been locked up. I'm sure there must be a lot of cases where they're after someone without any felonious relatives.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6779|San Diego, CA, USA
If you are going to Berkley College they are taking your DNA during admission...

How soon before we'll need to give our DNA to get a driver's license?

Imagine all the dead-bead-dads they could find.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5704|Ventura, California
I'm not too sure I like the idea of the government having my DNA. So DNA at birth would benefit the police for crime but what about the cons ?
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Dauntless
Admin
+2,249|6973|London

what about the cons shifty
https://imgur.com/kXTNQ8D.png
jord
Member
+2,382|6908|The North, beyond the wall.
The Government wont be getting my DNA, damned if I'm gonna get caught when I commit crime.
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6809|Columbus, OH
They can obtain your DNA by various means with out you or your relatives knowing, hair strands, stool samples, "used" tissues, skid mark drawers....you name it.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6759|Global Command
Whenever a child comes up missing they extract dna from his/her toothbrush.




yuck.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6779|San Diego, CA, USA

ATG wrote:

Whenever a child comes up missing they extract dna from his/her toothbrush.




yuck.
I wonder how many children they could find if they sampled school-aged kids?

I.e. Dad steals kid from a state then goes to another state, enrolls kid, and viola, match.


Its VERY tempting to allow the government to do this, but as much as there would be benefits I don't want to give up my freedoms for added security.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5409|Sydney

Macbeth wrote:

Frustrated by their inability to find the notorious killer known as the Grim Sleeper, whose DNA was not in a law enforcement database, Los Angeles police this spring asked the state to look for a DNA profile similar enough to be a possible relative of the killer.

In April, state computers produced a list of 200 genetic profiles of people in the database who might be related to the alleged serial killer. Among the top five ranked as the most likely relatives was a profile that shared a common genetic marker with the crime-scene DNA at each of 15 locations that the crime lab examined.

Scientists knew that a profile with that sort of matching pattern indicated a parent-child relationship.

To winnow the candidates further, and knowing that their suspect had to be a man, they tested the DNA of the 200 offenders whose profiles resembled the crime-scene DNA to determine if any appeared to share the Y chromosome, which boys inherit from their fathers.
There was one match, and it was the same profile that had shared all 15 markers on the first round of testing.


Excitement swept the room at the state DNA laboratory in Richmond where the match was made. Jill Spriggs, chief of the state's Bureau of Forensic Services, recalls a feeling of "amazement" when she learned of the breakthrough: The two rounds of tests almost certainly had located a son of the suspect -- the first high-profile U.S. case cracked by a technique known as familial DNA searching.
That's fucking crazy. Finding serial killers through their relatives is impressive.

If this method existed years ago, the BTK killer would have gotten caught in no time. Still wouldn't have caught Gacy or Dahmer who disposed of their victims properly.

Anyway hell of a breakthrough.
Very impressive. So, have they caught the killer?
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5816

Jaekus wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Frustrated by their inability to find the notorious killer known as the Grim Sleeper, whose DNA was not in a law enforcement database, Los Angeles police this spring asked the state to look for a DNA profile similar enough to be a possible relative of the killer.

In April, state computers produced a list of 200 genetic profiles of people in the database who might be related to the alleged serial killer. Among the top five ranked as the most likely relatives was a profile that shared a common genetic marker with the crime-scene DNA at each of 15 locations that the crime lab examined.

Scientists knew that a profile with that sort of matching pattern indicated a parent-child relationship.

To winnow the candidates further, and knowing that their suspect had to be a man, they tested the DNA of the 200 offenders whose profiles resembled the crime-scene DNA to determine if any appeared to share the Y chromosome, which boys inherit from their fathers.
There was one match, and it was the same profile that had shared all 15 markers on the first round of testing.


Excitement swept the room at the state DNA laboratory in Richmond where the match was made. Jill Spriggs, chief of the state's Bureau of Forensic Services, recalls a feeling of "amazement" when she learned of the breakthrough: The two rounds of tests almost certainly had located a son of the suspect -- the first high-profile U.S. case cracked by a technique known as familial DNA searching.
That's fucking crazy. Finding serial killers through their relatives is impressive.

If this method existed years ago, the BTK killer would have gotten caught in no time. Still wouldn't have caught Gacy or Dahmer who disposed of their victims properly.

Anyway hell of a breakthrough.
Very impressive. So, have they caught the killer?
Forgot the link, my bad.

Yeah they managed to arrest him. They linked him to 10 killings and suspect him of 30 more.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5409|Sydney
40 killings??? That's so fucked up in such a massive way.
Macbeth
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+2,444|5816

Jaekus wrote:

40 killings??? That's so fucked up in such a massive way.
That's nothing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mu … of_victims
Dauntless
Admin
+2,249|6973|London

Macbeth wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

40 killings??? That's so fucked up in such a massive way.
That's nothing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mu … of_victims
#1

Sentenced to 1,853 years but could only be imprisoned for 30 which was reduced to 22 after aiding investigators.

https://imgur.com/kXTNQ8D.png
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,814|6336|eXtreme to the maX

Macbeth wrote:

Still wouldn't have caught Gacy or Dahmer who disposed of their victims properly.
Thats a nice Freudian slip thar.
Fuck Israel
rdx-fx
...
+955|6822

-Sh1fty- wrote:

I'm not too sure I like the idea of the government having my DNA. So DNA at birth would benefit the police for crime but what about the cons ?
Then don't join the military.

Have to give a DNA sample there.

Y'know, in case you get blown the hell up, and they have to scoop up your remains in a bucket for later DNA identification.
Or, so they can hand it over to the FBI/NSA/CIA if you decide to go crazy, turn spy, and wipe your ass with your security clearance.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,814|6336|eXtreme to the maX
Its worth remembering how easy it is to plant DNA evidence.
Fuck Israel
loubot
O' HAL naw!
+470|6809|Columbus, OH
very true, some how my evidence is planted in the Ass Thread
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5409|Sydney

loubot wrote:

very true, some how my evidence is planted in the Ass Thread
If only I could plant my DNA in some of those arses.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5468|Cleveland, Ohio

Dilbert_X wrote:

Its worth remembering how easy it is to plant DNA evidence.
yes but dna alone cant do it, right?  i mean, if there was a vid of you buying a soda at a gas station in brisbane at 1am there is no way you killed that woman in sydney around 130am right?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,814|6336|eXtreme to the maX
Not everyone has a video alibi for every hour of their day.

Where were you between 11pm and 8am this morning?
In bed asleep.
Prove it.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-07-10 23:48:52)

Fuck Israel
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5409|Sydney
I can, cause I was at work. But I see your point. It still comes down to proving you were at the scene of the crime at the time, the alibi is really a process of elimination.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5468|Cleveland, Ohio

Dilbert_X wrote:

Not everyone has a video alibi for every hour of their day.

Where were you between 11pm and 8am this morning?
In bed asleep.
Prove it.
i know just saying.  there is more than vid.

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