Dilbert_X
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For every troll post of mine I'll find 20 of yours - and the mods did give you a free pass.
Your "Muslims should be shot with depleted uranium" sig was gold.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-07-04 17:24:30)

Fuck Israel
Macbeth
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Dilbert_X wrote:

For every troll post of mine I'll find 20 of yours - and the mods did give you a free pass.
To be fair he's on like his fourth or fifth long term account. So he's been mod slapped multiple times.
11 Bravo
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Dilbert_X wrote:

For every troll post of mine I'll find 20 of yours - and the mods did give you a free pass.
Your "Muslims should be shot with depleted uranium" sig was gold.
thats a sig.  sig has nothing to do with posts.  so, you just proved, that right there was trolling.  adding nothing to the discussion except flame.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-07-04 17:37:39)

11 Bravo
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and i was posting in this section 4 years ago, you 3......wonder what changed around that time....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6761
oh marine your 'resignation' from formal debate is sorely missed...

tbh i do not know why in the fuck you consider yourself to be the benchmark of when D&ST was good

those 'halcyon days' of high-intellectual engaging discourse... why? because you could be assed to contribute, rofl.

ego much.
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11 Bravo
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we were fine, now its shit.  hmmmmmmmm.  you say you are smart, do the math.
Uzique
dasein.
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loooooool

i don't say im smart, but sure. im rational and wise-minded enough to 'do some math' and realize your posts have fuck-all to do with the quality of d&st. in fact, it's inverse to what you claim... because your constant bitching and moan-moaning just makes the quality of d&St go down further, not up. the claim that D&ST was good when you posted and stopped being good when you stopped... haha, "do the math".
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i did give my suggestions in this thread without pointing the finger at anyone...that doesnt contribute?  you have to come in and point fingers then derail with your stupid link crap argument with lowing.  rational thinking my ass.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-07-04 17:53:37)

Uzique
dasein.
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i didn't derail this thread at all with link stuff... bertster and lowing's source-thing spilled over... i even said myself i don't care about sources any more than making my initial point about the guy's character. i posted that and let it be, and only carried on arguing with lowing about other points to do with islam. and kept that in the right thread.

anyway im laughing at the suggestion that the 'good days' and 'bad days' of d&st are directly linked and attributed to when you posted and when you 'resigned'. i could understand if you were an actually well-renowned contributor and debater in the forum... but all you're ever known for is sniping and one-word gurgles.

"rational thinking my ass"
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i didnt say it changed when i stopped because i stopped after it changed.  I left for 6 months and came back and it was even worse.

and you dont snipe?  wow dude.  troll some more.  i know the mods love it so keep going.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-07-04 17:59:38)

Uzique
dasein.
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he-ey as long as im being an entertainer rather than an endless-drag and constant irritable moan... right...
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Uzique wrote:

he-ey as long as im being an entertainer rather than an endless-drag and constant irritable moan... right...
you think very highly of yourself.  you bore me tbh.
Uzique
dasein.
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lol no i don't. you're the one that puts across the "you think you're smart" and "i know the mods love it".

i just reply to that.

and look at the guy saying he heralds the golden-days of D&ST and is now retired to his background position of moaning about the pitiable quality of the debates...

i bore you? you bore every one with your constant pissing and moaning. d&st is dead. wow mods are unfair. wow mods are shit. wow this topic is shit. wow this member gets away with things i dont. wow this member ruined that thread so i'll ruin this one. wow i'm gonna go ruin this thread on purpose because every one else is creating drama and i want some too. wah wah wah.
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you ruin damn near every thread.  you roam the entire forum and shit on 90% of the people.  i dont do that.
Uzique
dasein.
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nah you shit on the mods instead. guess im smarter with my targets.
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11 Bravo
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well thats more fun to me than shifty or warman tbh

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-07-04 18:17:22)

Dilbert_X
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11 Bravo wrote:

Uzique wrote:

and you are the building blocks of every good d&st thread! with such astute, erudite contributions!
i do when a thread aint destroyed by you guys.  i can prove that.  many threads in the past were great.  things changed when trolls like you came in.
Maybe you should explain what you mean by 'changed'.
If you mean people with opposing views to yours are putting forward arguments thats too bad.

If you're objecting to people trolling then look at yourself.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-07-04 19:55:37)

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11 Bravo
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ya ok.  now get with your suggestions since you made none or it just proves you are trolling.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Maybe you should explain what you mean by 'changed'.
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lowing
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Bertster7 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

then don't attack the source, attack the information in the source. Who cares if it from a racist ( which I do not claim it is) if you disagree with the information refute it and lay off of your playbook.
Trouble is you present the source as being some kind of authority, when its actually some unabomberesque nutball.
Then you ignore any information which doesn't agree with yours.

You don't present arguments, you present statements and challenge people to prove them wrong.
A group of nutballs, running a load of related sites. Some of which have been shut down.

There's Glen Reinsford of cairbaby.com (shut down) and religionofpeace.com - which seems to be lowings main source for everything.
There's Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, where we can see numerous references to the fact that cairbaby was shut down and a campaign for web blocks imposed by filtering companies to be removed for the religionofpeace site.
There's also Khalim Massoud of Muslims Against Sharia - a hilarious site obviously not run by Muslims. His responses to emails he was sent regarding defamation law suits are quite in line with what one might expect:

Subject: Re: Law suits, ain’t this grand

Are you threatening me, you little biatch? You must have been sucking cousin dad’s xxxx for too long, if you really think that a demented piece of sxxt like you could scare anyone. And if you weren’t that stupid, you’d know that if you’re a Christian or a Jew, we’re praying to the same God, you retarded inbred. Also, you unhealthy fascination with larva is troubling. You should discuss it with a shrink at the free clinic, you dumb piece of white trash (Bill Warner).
From: Khalim Massoud [email protected]
From: Khalim Massoud [email protected]
Muslims Against Sharia
To: BW (Bill Warner)
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject:Re: Law suits, ain’t this grand

You told on me, you little piece of sxxt (Bill Warner)? Obviously a little biatch like you is too much of a chicken sxxt to handle anything herself. I am surprised that you haven’t dug up the “fact” that I’m not a real Muslim, etc. etc. etc..

You (Bill Warner) must have been excessively molested as a child to feel that insecure at your advanced age. Ever considered counseling?

Khalim Massoud
President
Muslims Against Sharia
[email protected]
241732 PO Box, OMAHA, NE 68124
Just a few examples from the website of a Private Investigator who has done some investigating of these dodgy websites. As a result of this, Muslims Against Sharia have had their PO box revoked by the USPS:

http://pibillwarner.files.wordpress.com … &h=485

Some people will persist in using stupid sources, rather than mainstream sources. If only there were some criteria on what sort of sources are acceptable, then it would avoid all this nonsense.

Just because some nutjob has a blog does not make them a credible source. That is something that leads to lots of problems in D&ST and perhaps there should be a stickied thread explaining what constitutes a credible source (the sort of things you would imagine are common sense for most people) and that information taken from sources that do not conform with those guidelines should be taken with a pinch of salt?
http://wbipi.blogspot.com/

Ummmm here is Bill Warner and he spends his time investigating Islamic extremist websites. Islamis extremists that want him dead apparently.

Read all the information to the left especially. Honestly, do you guys really read up on any of the stuff you post as iron clad evidence?

I mean Bill Warner would be someone I would source really. Still trying to figure you guys out.
Jaekus
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Pretty ironic these kinds of disucssions are taking place in this thread.
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

As far as the information I have site, it can be verified based on current events, and media outlets. It also sources its information used. Something you would KNOW if you actually read the information.
The point is, YOU need to do that here.

"I'm right cuz islamwatch.com sez so" isn't an argument, or a debate.

It would be like saying "joos r evul cuz it sez so in 'Mein Kampf' you reed it and go argue with Hitteler"
I never claimed I am right. I claim there is substantial evidence to show Islam in the negative light it basks in. You deny all of it and dismiss it as isolated incidences that have nothing to do with Islam, and when I ask you to support that opinion with some facts, you claim you do not have to because you see no need to waste your time with such bullshit. It is ridiculous how you guys form arguments.
Jaekus
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I have to ask, why do you come onto this forum? All I've ever seen you do is enter this forum, argue with people and it never ever gets anywhere, and they're always the same arguments with no ending, and that's it? You know what they say about repeating the same action and expecting a different result, yeah?

Why don't you venture onto the other forums, maybe take things a bit more light hearted and get to know the community on more than one level?
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lowing is an adult version of pace
Tu Stultus Es
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
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RWF about Islam?

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