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2010-07-02 10:36:27
Uzique
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lowing wrote:

Uzique wrote:

lowing wrote:


ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm have you actually read that article??????????........You might want to before you post something like that. It does little to bolster your argument and a great deal to bolster mine.

"Race relations
Under Islam all ethnicities are equal. Once you have submitted to Allah you are a Muslim – it doesn’t matter what colour you are. End of story."
^^^^^^^^^^
from your article and most of it is similar to this attitude.

Is this how you all feel? Really? We are in trouble.
errrm

what the FUCK is wrong with that attitude? racial and ethnic equality to everyone in a religion? more than christianity can say after the subjugation of black africa and latin america to superior white-european spaniards and the power of rome...
"Once you have submitted to Allah"  now, tell me again how Islam intentions are to co-exist peacefully?
submitting to allah, i.e. joining the muslim faith, is fucking OPTIONAL you donk.

only YOU could read a POSITIVE thing about a religion (e.g. EQUALITY FOR ALL RACE AND ETHNIC MINORITIES) as a sinister, bad thing.
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2010-07-02 10:36:41
lowing
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So you all really do feel that way about England, Islam and that article...Well then, no wonder you refuse to address any information provided. You do not want to lie. I understand
2010-07-02 10:37:43
Bertster7
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lowing wrote:

So you all really do feel that way about England, Islam and that article...Well then, no wonder you refuse to address any information provided. You do not want to lie. I misunderstand
2010-07-02 10:38:29
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

lowing wrote:

Uzique wrote:

errrm

what the FUCK is wrong with that attitude? racial and ethnic equality to everyone in a religion? more than christianity can say after the subjugation of black africa and latin america to superior white-european spaniards and the power of rome...
"Once you have submitted to Allah"  now, tell me again how Islam intentions are to co-exist peacefully?
submitting to allah, i.e. joining the muslim faith, is fucking OPTIONAL you donk.

only YOU could read a POSITIVE thing about a religion (e.g. EQUALITY FOR ALL RACE AND ETHNIC MINORITIES) as a sinister, bad thing.
Tell ya what hero, why don't you read the fuckin article.

read what it said, your race does not matter once you have submitted to Allah. ONCE YOU HAVE SUBMITTED TO ALLAH. IE it does matter before hand.

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2010-07-02 10:39:35
Uzique
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what are you fucking talking about? oh my GOD, hahaha, so so ridiculous.

and don't tell me how to read and interpret a simple article. you're the one needing lessons. you cannot even read an article from an impartial, objective stance- how brainwashed is that? i would sure-hate to have to read every book, essay, website and article through the stained-glass window of my ideology.

the article doesn't say anything evil or sinister about islam. "once" is a CONDITIONAL, i.e. to all members of the islamic faith, race and ethnicity do not matter- "it doesn't matter what colour you are". can you say the same as a christian follower? after coloured-segregation, racial/ethnic-based denominations (e.g. the orthodox churches, black christian movements in the US), can you say that christianity is as 'good' as islam in that respect? islam does not care what race or colour you are; christianity has done for many centuries, and division still exists amongst followers according to colour-stereotypes.

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2010-07-02 10:39:42
lowing
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

So you all really do feel that way about England, Islam and that article...Well then, no wonder you refuse to address any information provided. You do not want to lie. I misunderstand
Sorry Berster, your article and I read it.....there is no misinterpretation. It says exactly what it means.

Fact is you didn't read it before you posted it.

Last edited by lowing (2010-07-02 10:40:00)

2010-07-02 10:41:07
Uzique
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lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

So you all really do feel that way about England, Islam and that article...Well then, no wonder you refuse to address any information provided. You do not want to lie. I misunderstand
Sorry Berster, your article and I read it.....there is no misinterpretation. It says exactly what it means.

Fact is you didn't read it before you posted it.
or rather, the fact is: you cannot read.

once:

–conjunction
6.
if or when at any time; if ever.
7.
whenever; as soon as:

CONDITIONAL / A CONJUNCTION.

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2010-07-02 10:43:53
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

what are you fucking talking about? oh my GOD, hahaha, so so ridiculous.

the article doesn't say anything evil or sinister about islam. "once" is a CONDITIONAL, i.e. to all members of the islamic faith, race and ethnicity do not matter- "it doesn't matter what colour you are". can you say the same as a christian follower? after coloured-segregation, racial/ethnic-based denominations (e.g. the orthodox churches, black christian movements in the US), can you say that christianity is as 'good' as islam in that respect? islam does not care what race or colour you are; christianity has done for many centuries, and division still exists amongst followers according to colour-stereotypes.
Hell no it doesn't say anything sinister about Islam... It talks about how great London will be under Islamic rule... how Islam could accommodate other religions. ( how nice of them)

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2010-07-02 10:46:01
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Sorry Berster, your article and I read it.....there is no misinterpretation. It says exactly what it means.

Fact is you didn't read it before you posted it.
or rather, the fact is: you cannot read.

once:

–conjunction
6.
if or when at any time; if ever.
7.
whenever; as soon as:

CONDITIONAL / A CONJUNCTION.
Ohhhhhhhhhh I see, now we are gunna break out the definition of "ONCE"? lol...give me a break. you agree with that article fine. It is telling of Islamic intentions for London "ONCE" it gets big enough, and you approve.
2010-07-02 10:46:06
Bertster7
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lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

So you all really do feel that way about England, Islam and that article...Well then, no wonder you refuse to address any information provided. You do not want to lie. I misunderstand
Sorry Berster, your article and I read it.....there is no misinterpretation. It says exactly what it means.

Fact is you didn't read it before you posted it.
I read it and understood it.

You read it and completely and totally misunderstood it.

I chose it for precisely that reason (as well as the fact it casts Islam in a fairly positive light - and alludes to how is it misunderstood). To illustrate the personal bias your poor comprehension brings to all these media articles you read about the dangers of Islam.
2010-07-02 10:49:27
lowing
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Sorry Berster, your article and I read it.....there is no misinterpretation. It says exactly what it means.

Fact is you didn't read it before you posted it.
I read it and understood it.

You read it and completely and totally misunderstood it.

I chose it for precisely that reason (as well as the fact it casts Islam in a fairly positive light - and alludes to how is it misunderstood). To illustrate the personal bias your poor comprehension brings to all these media articles you read about the dangers of Islam.
Bullshit. you did not read it before you posted it, you posted it based on the title. Explain how Islam will bring all of this good to London when it does not bring any of it to its own Islamic nations.
2010-07-02 10:56:06
Uzique
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lowing are you a comedian or are you genuinely doing all this by pure accident.

the article is targeted at providing information for people who are already muslims, or who are looking to convert

it is not saying ONCE WE HAVE CONQUERED LONDON, THESE SHALL BE THE CONDITIONS ACCORDING TO ALLAH, PRAISE HIM

you are bat-shit insane, seriously dude. seriously.

Last edited by Uzique (2010-07-02 10:56:47)

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2010-07-02 10:57:26
lowing
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http://www.timeout.com/london/big-smoke … lamic.html <--------your bullshit

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/200 … ondon.html <---------the retort.


also it would appear that not only I "misunderstood" your article... http://www.timeout.com/london/big-smoke … tters.html

see what I did there? I did not only call you out on your bullshit, I provided sources that back up my opinion.....Feel free to try the same.
2010-07-02 10:58:27
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

lowing are you a comedian or are you genuinely doing all this by pure accident.

the article is targeted at providing information for people who are already muslims, or who are looking to convert

it is not saying ONCE WE HAVE CONQUERED LONDON, THESE SHALL BE THE CONDITIONS ACCORDING TO ALLAH, PRAISE HIM

you are bat-shit insane, seriously dude. seriously.
lol yeah yeah yeah, read up

by the way, it might well say, "Conquered London'

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2010-07-02 11:00:18
Bertster7
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lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


Sorry Berster, your article and I read it.....there is no misinterpretation. It says exactly what it means.

Fact is you didn't read it before you posted it.
I read it and understood it.

You read it and completely and totally misunderstood it.

I chose it for precisely that reason (as well as the fact it casts Islam in a fairly positive light - and alludes to how is it misunderstood). To illustrate the personal bias your poor comprehension brings to all these media articles you read about the dangers of Islam.
Bullshit. you did not read it before you posted it, you posted it based on the title. Explain how Islam will bring all of this good to London when it does not bring any of it to its own Islamic nations.
I posted it because I could not believe my luck in finding something so apt, so quickly.

The title "Is London's Future Islamic" would have been a very poor basis for selecting that article - yet combined with the overall tone, it works out very nicely.

I thought you'd read the article? That's what the article does, it explains how Islam could bring positive things to London. Of course any of these changes need to be taken in a local context only. You couldn't properly compare London with most Islamic nations because of massively differing socio-economic climates.
2010-07-02 11:04:15
lowing
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

I read it and understood it.

You read it and completely and totally misunderstood it.

I chose it for precisely that reason (as well as the fact it casts Islam in a fairly positive light - and alludes to how is it misunderstood). To illustrate the personal bias your poor comprehension brings to all these media articles you read about the dangers of Islam.
Bullshit. you did not read it before you posted it, you posted it based on the title. Explain how Islam will bring all of this good to London when it does not bring any of it to its own Islamic nations.
I posted it because I could not believe my luck in finding something so apt, so quickly.

The title "Is London's Future Islamic" would have been a very poor basis for selecting that article - yet combined with the overall tone, it works out very nicely.

I thought you'd read the article? That's what the article does, it explains how Islam could bring positive things to London. Of course any of these changes need to be taken in a local context only. You couldn't properly compare London with most Islamic nations because of massively differing socio-economic climates.
No I couldn't believe MY luck in you posting such bullshit.

Oh I see, you could not make the comparison, yet, you try and do just that. Here is what Islam can do for you..You seem to forget that it has not brought any of that peace love and tolerance anywhwere else, so to claim it can do so in London is bullshit.


Yes it cast Islam in a positive light, yet provides no references, or examples as to where else all of those positives have been on account of Islam.

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2010-07-02 11:07:25
Uzique
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lowing i seriously hope when you're on your deathbed that you look back, with the sagacity of old age, and repent all this blind dumbassery

read the article with your ideological-specs taken off and see it for what it is; it is not a sinister manifesto of london's annexation to islam.
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2010-07-02 11:14:01
lowing
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Uzique wrote:

lowing i seriously hope when you're on your deathbed that you look back, with the sagacity of old age, and repent all this blind dumbassery

read the article with your ideological-specs taken off and see it for what it is; it is not a sinister manifesto of london's annexation to islam.
Nope it is nothing more than an opinion, one that has been long suspected and rarely had a light shown on but not to the point obviously to escape denial or dismissal by you or those that share your admiration for it. It is also an opinion I abhor and you embrace.

Again I ask you to address what has been provided and steer clear of the insults. Good luck with that.

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2010-07-02 11:18:43
11 Bravo
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http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2007/6298
2010-07-02 11:23:20
Bertster7
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lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


Bullshit. you did not read it before you posted it, you posted it based on the title. Explain how Islam will bring all of this good to London when it does not bring any of it to its own Islamic nations.
I posted it because I could not believe my luck in finding something so apt, so quickly.

The title "Is London's Future Islamic" would have been a very poor basis for selecting that article - yet combined with the overall tone, it works out very nicely.

I thought you'd read the article? That's what the article does, it explains how Islam could bring positive things to London. Of course any of these changes need to be taken in a local context only. You couldn't properly compare London with most Islamic nations because of massively differing socio-economic climates.
No I couldn't believe MY luck in you posting such bullshit.

Oh I see, you could not make the comparison, yet, you try and do just that. Here is what Islam can do for you..You seem to forget that it has not brought any of that peace love and tolerance anywhwere else, so to claim it can do so in London is bullshit.


Yes it cast Islam in a positive light, yet provides no references, or examples as to where else all of those positives have been on account of Islam.
I suppose you must've missed the references
Not everything is referenced, not by a long shot, but there most certainly are references.

Nowhere's perfect. Muslim countries have no worse an average standard of living than Christian countries (accounting for differing economic climates in those countries of course).

There are examples of Muslim regions (not necessarily Muslim administered) of some countries having a higher standard of living than of the regions around them. Gujarat in India for example.
2010-07-02 11:27:08
Uzique
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11 Bravo wrote:

http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2007/6298
rofl, that's brilliant. amazing source, amazingly produced/edited video.
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2010-07-02 11:29:01
11 Bravo
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Uzique wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2007/6298
rofl, that's brilliant. amazing source, amazingly produced/edited video.
60 minutes is not a good source?  wow zeek.  sorry man.

you are such a little girl.  all you do is ruin threads with your shit.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-07-02 11:29:28)

2010-07-02 11:32:40
Uzique
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sorry, yeah, the length of a source totally determines how good it is. that's why loose change was irrefutable evidence that bush did 9/11, right?

that website is bullshit, and you know it is. from the graphic at the top right the way down to the content at the bottom. bias bullshit.

i feel genuinely sorry for you if you think you're somehow 'enriching' a thread with that contribution. brb lemme go find some hitler-rally videos.
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2010-07-02 11:32:43
Bertster7
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Uzique wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2007/6298
rofl, that's brilliant. amazing source, amazingly produced/edited video.
Using Islamic Jihadis as sources that Islam is violent and everyone who says otherwise is in denial - priceless.

So a tiny minority (who happen to be extremists) claim Islam is violent whereas the vast majority claim that is not the case. What makes the minority more credible than the overwhelming majority?
2010-07-02 11:33:54
11 Bravo
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Uzique wrote:

sorry, yeah, the length of a source totally determines how good it is. that's why loose change was irrefutable evidence that bush did 9/11, right?

that website is bullshit, and you know it is. from the graphic at the top right the way down to the content at the bottom. bias bullshit.

i feel genuinely sorry for you if you think you're somehow 'enriching' a thread with that contribution. brb lemme go find some hitler-rally videos.
i know the website is BS, but that is where the 60 minutes vid is at.  has nothing to do with the website at all.  i didnt even read the website you idiot.  man you are such a bitch.

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