Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6284|Vortex Ring State
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10461048.stm

Seems like a odd piece of legislation, however it shows just how pervasive the internet is these days.

Makes it seem like that they're going to have QoS issues sometime soon.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6415|North Tonawanda, NY

Trotskygrad wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10461048.stm

Seems like a odd piece of legislation, however it shows just how pervasive the internet is these days.

Makes it seem like that they're going to have QoS issues sometime soon.
Is this significantly different (in concept) from having electricity available to residences?

Last edited by SenorToenails (2010-07-01 08:16:19)

Trotskygrad
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+354|6284|Vortex Ring State

SenorToenails wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10461048.stm

Seems like a odd piece of legislation, however it shows just how pervasive the internet is these days.

Makes it seem like that they're going to have QoS issues sometime soon.
Is this significantly different (in concept) from having electricity available to residences?
yeah it is, considering that electricity does not involve the problems of using it to exploit other people across the globe (not saying that finns will, but just saying (in concept)
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6756
their internet infrastructures are so new that they make the old copper-wire telecoms systems seem stone-age.

i think it's a pretty good piece of legislation - it may sound funny to make broadband a 'legal right', but it's just the technical terminology for a piece of legislation that is pushing forward a pretty noble and commendable technological advance. hard to find complaints, really.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6906|London, England
It's not that far fetched for a developed country. It's basically just making sure the communications infrastructure remains solid throughout the country

The way the make it sound by saying that "we're making sure all Finns have the right to broadband" makes it sound all soppy and utopian. Really it's just some more building codes to abide to, making sure houses are well connected ... just like electricity and water and gas and all that.

It's good for the economy to have a well developed infrastructure in all areas of the country. Communication is one part of it, and the internet a part of that.
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6901|do not disturb

It is believed up to 96% of the population are already online and that only about 4,000 homes still need connecting to comply with the law.
That few? So what will prevent people who have a cheap connection and use it sparingly from refusing to pay for their internet?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6906|London, England

Phrozenbot wrote:

It is believed up to 96% of the population are already online and that only about 4,000 homes still need connecting to comply with the law.
That few? So what will prevent people who have a cheap connection and use it sparingly from refusing to pay for their internet?
I think you're getting confused abit, all they're doing is ensuring all houses/dwellings/shacks/whatever in Finland have the ability to acquire a decent broadband connection. It's upto the person to then subscribe to an ISP and all that shit.

Just like regular utilities, except more restricted. You can generate your own power and get your own water if you wanted to, not so much for internet... no, you more or less need an ISP for this shit.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6415|North Tonawanda, NY

Trotskygrad wrote:

yeah it is, considering that electricity does not involve the problems of using it to exploit other people across the globe (not saying that finns will, but just saying (in concept)
Wait, what?  This is just an availability of a utility measure, is it not?  What you DO with that utility is up to you.  And besides, electricity is needed for the computers to function on the internet...so I suppose you could argue in the same fashion that it does...but it's a shitty argument.
TheDonkey
Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt
+163|6002|Vancouver, BC, Canada
We have some friends that live in the middle of nowhere (40 minutes drive through country roads once you leave a suburb-city), and they can only get dial-up, unless they pay $1500 to get new lines installed.

I'm assuming what this bill says is that ISP's MUST provide Broadband to all parts of the country without installation fees and crap, you'd just pay for the service.
HollisHurlbut
Member
+51|6283

TheDonkey wrote:

I'm assuming what this bill says is that ISP's MUST provide Broadband to all parts of the country without installation fees and crap, you'd just pay for the service.
Which just means that although you won't pay for your specific line install, everyone will pay out the ass for their monthly bill.

Nothing is free.

Also, does this now mean that any DoS attacks are elevated to a crime against humanity in Finalnd?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

Phrozenbot wrote:

It is believed up to 96% of the population are already online and that only about 4,000 homes still need connecting to comply with the law.
That few? So what will prevent people who have a cheap connection and use it sparingly from refusing to pay for their internet?
I think the small number of people without broadband there was what inspired the bill to start with.  Once a utility becomes that common, then it's often assumed that everyone should have access to it.

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