no i mean in general, not this thread specifically. and all you do is talk down to people so i dunno. you are boring me.Uzique wrote:
err, hey dumbass, 'we' is the western occident and 'they' is the oriental world.11 Bravo wrote:
the shit you talk about the US makes me LOL at this statement.Uzique wrote:
you cannot assign cultural differences to the axis of 'we're right', 'they're wrong'.
the shit you talk without thinking through a single post makes me LOL.
I know they were Islamic terrorists lowing, what is there for me to get over exactly?lowing wrote:
your semantics is of very little difference to those killed on 911 Varegg.Varegg wrote:
That's the clue lowing ... doing it in the name of and not on behalf of ... trying to belittle the fact that extremists are not so faul as long as they don't belong to Islam ... good going lowing ...
These were ISLAMIC terrorists. Get over it.
And from Saudi Arabia most of them ... and trained most likely in Pakistan, how come you don't punish them rather than another random poor Islamic country with not so much money invested in your country?
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
cultural differences? Do you really suggest that, there is a "right" in the killing of someone because they changed religions, or was gay in any culture?Uzique wrote:
you cannot assign cultural differences to the axis of 'we're right', 'they're wrong'.11 Bravo wrote:
yes. none of those excuse cutting off babies heads or womens breasts.Uzique wrote:
wow if you don't consider any of those things, just wow.
there is no one 'correct' society or one 'correct' way to live. western capitalist democracy is not the answer to the meaning of life. also a lot of it is the product of a lack-of-education: a lack of education that we have systematically and purposefully denied them, for whatever self-interested gains we have taken from their countries and people. THINK it THROUGH, marine.
Can you say Western Occident?Uzique wrote:
err, hey dumbass, 'we' is the western occident and 'they' is the oriental world.11 Bravo wrote:
the shit you talk about the US makes me LOL at this statement.Uzique wrote:
you cannot assign cultural differences to the axis of 'we're right', 'they're wrong'.
the shit you talk without thinking through a single post makes me LOL.
I thought it would either be the West or the Occident? But hey, you're the linguist.
Leave the BS offensive attacks out of the thread ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
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It's a case of the Department of Redundency Department! I didn't think you could do that either.Bertster7 wrote:
Can you say Western Occident?
I thought it would either be the West or the Occident? But hey, you're the linguist.
Nothing random about Iraq and it had nothing to do with terrorism. It had everything to do with UN resolutions.Varegg wrote:
I know they were Islamic terrorists lowing, what is there for me to get over exactly?lowing wrote:
your semantics is of very little difference to those killed on 911 Varegg.Varegg wrote:
That's the clue lowing ... doing it in the name of and not on behalf of ... trying to belittle the fact that extremists are not so faul as long as they don't belong to Islam ... good going lowing ...
These were ISLAMIC terrorists. Get over it.
And from Saudi Arabia most of them ... and trained most likely in Pakistan, how come you don't punish them rather than another random poor Islamic country with not so much money invested in your country?
IF the terrorists stayed out of Iraq after Saddam fell, we would not be fighting there now. It would have recovered faster and became a peaceful place to live and grow for the Iraqis. You want to blame us for the terrorists undermining our efforts to stabilize that country. You call us the invaders, yet say nothing of the terrorists that have invaded to disrupt the growth in peace of Iraq.
... are you serious?Bertster7 wrote:
Can you say Western Occident?Uzique wrote:
err, hey dumbass, 'we' is the western occident and 'they' is the oriental world.11 Bravo wrote:
the shit you talk about the US makes me LOL at this statement.
the shit you talk without thinking through a single post makes me LOL.
I thought it would either be the West or the Occident? But hey, you're the linguist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world
'western' here is just an adjectival attachment; to simplfy for people that don't want to deal with nomenclature.The Western world, also known as the West and the Occident (Latin: occidens -sunset, -west, as distinct from the Orient), is a term that can have multiple meanings depending on its context (e.g., the time period, the region or social situation).[1] Accordingly, the basic definition of what constitutes "the West" varies, expanding and contracting over time, in relation to various historical circumstances.
and marine, i probably bore you because you cannot understand very simple history, nor grasp basic concepts. shame.
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yep. thats it. has nothing to do with you always talking down to people. which seems acceptable for some reason.Uzique wrote:
and marine, i probably bore you because you cannot understand very simple history, nor grasp basic concepts. shame.
Yes, I know what it means. I just though it would be like saying the Eastern Orient - which sounds silly to me. But as I said, you're the linguist.Uzique wrote:
... are you serious?Bertster7 wrote:
Can you say Western Occident?Uzique wrote:
err, hey dumbass, 'we' is the western occident and 'they' is the oriental world.
the shit you talk without thinking through a single post makes me LOL.
I thought it would either be the West or the Occident? But hey, you're the linguist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world
actually im a literature student... linguists are scientists, i study the art that is produced as a cultural result. thanks for the ad hominem, though. a redundant tautology for you, perhaps, but a necessary descriptor for those lacking and too lazy to use google. just catering for my audience, here.
marine i have to talk-down to you because there is no practical method of which we can engage on an equal-level. sorry. go read a book.
marine i have to talk-down to you because there is no practical method of which we can engage on an equal-level. sorry. go read a book.
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i dont get you. if you are so smart and most of us are sooooo stoopid. then why are you here?Uzique wrote:
actually im a literature student... linguists are scientists, i study the art that is produced as a cultural result. thanks for the ad hominem, though. a redundant tautology for you, perhaps, but a necessary descriptor for those lacking and too lazy to use google. just catering for my audience, here.
marine i have to talk-down to you because there is no practical method of which we can engage on an equal-level. sorry. go read a book.
go read a book? really? go do something in life other than school then we will talk.
annnnnnnnnnnyway, back on topic....Is anyone gunna do anything to discredit the information in sites like http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ ?
Or are you just going to continue to dismiss it without addressing any of it? Is anyone going to step forward and decree Sharia law as just, tolerant, accepting, inclusive or tolerant. How about it, once and for all, someone needs to post an argument that shows what is post is false and has no basis in reality, that it is just the media out to get Islam.
Or are you just going to continue to dismiss it without addressing any of it? Is anyone going to step forward and decree Sharia law as just, tolerant, accepting, inclusive or tolerant. How about it, once and for all, someone needs to post an argument that shows what is post is false and has no basis in reality, that it is just the media out to get Islam.
be patient lowing this isn't 0800-dial-a-muslim
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Ya mean you have someone lined up that will dismiss all that is done in the name of Islam the religion, sharia law and Islam the culture as nothing more than media hype? They will call shaira tolerant, accepting and full of equal rights and morality? Can't wait. They will prove the other experts IE Islamic leaders wrong, that claim Islam is not a relgion of peace?Uzique wrote:
be patient lowing this isn't 0800-dial-a-muslim
im sure there are lots of muslims out there with half a clue that can dismiss your polemic blind-bullshittery, yes.
beduin has been doing a stellar job these last few months, i salute his patience and tolerance.
beduin has been doing a stellar job these last few months, i salute his patience and tolerance.
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Dismiss yes, that happens all the time, I am asking for someone to actually prove what is cited as wrong. Prove sharia law is tolerant and accepting. See the difference?Uzique wrote:
im sure there are lots of muslims out there with half a clue that can dismiss your polemic blind-bullshittery, yes.
beduin has been doing a stellar job these last few months, i salute his patience and tolerance.
they also need to prove that Muslims with a full clue, IE muslim leaders wrong as well.
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Are you actually gonna post something that shows we are at war with Isam?lowing wrote:
annnnnnnnnnnyway, back on topic....Is anyone gunna do anything to discredit the information in sites like http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ ?
Or are you just going to continue to dismiss it without addressing any of it? Is anyone going to step forward and decree Sharia law as just, tolerant, accepting, inclusive or tolerant. How about it, once and for all, someone needs to post an argument that shows what is post is false and has no basis in reality, that it is just the media out to get Islam.
You are asking for a declaration of war, there isn't one. Political correctness forbids it. However, if you will look at the mission statement of the terrorists and the Koran and Islamic leaders. Kinda hard not to come to that conclusion.nlsme1 wrote:
Are you actually gonna post something that shows we are at war with Isam?lowing wrote:
annnnnnnnnnnyway, back on topic....Is anyone gunna do anything to discredit the information in sites like http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ ?
Or are you just going to continue to dismiss it without addressing any of it? Is anyone going to step forward and decree Sharia law as just, tolerant, accepting, inclusive or tolerant. How about it, once and for all, someone needs to post an argument that shows what is post is false and has no basis in reality, that it is just the media out to get Islam.
Bin Laden has declared his intentions. You do not accept this. IS there a difference between this leader and any other in regards to their stated intentions?
Now get on with it, show where what has been cited is nothing but lies.
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Yes Lowing, SOME muslim's are violent. The religion itself, not so much. Just as SOME christians are violent. We are not at war with Islam as you previously stated. You dismiss the actions of a few christians, then rant about the actions of a few muslims.
The violence within Islam far exceedes that of Christianity. It does not compare. Period. When are you going to call those site s lies? Call sharia law just tolerant and accepting? Or are you not?nlsme1 wrote:
Yes Lowing, SOME muslim's are violent. The religion itself, not so much. Just as SOME christians are violent. We are not at war with Islam as you previously stated. You dismiss the actions of a few christians, then rant about the actions of a few muslims.
Again, you dismiss the actions of some, and rant on the actions of others. Islam does not equal Sharia. How about this, all christians hold the same view as HBC?
Again you dismiss the violence within Islam that far exceeds anything done by Christians.nlsme1 wrote:
Again, you dismiss the actions of some, and rant on the actions of others. Islam does not equal Sharia. How about this, all christians hold the same view as HBC?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages … hammad.htm
How much longer are you going to deny and dismiss or redirect, rather than address?
I already agreed SOME muslims are violent. You are dismissing the violence of christians. It is hypocrisy.