Welfare recipients withdrew $1.8 million at casino ATMs

2010-06-26 08:07:36

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Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6833|San Diego, CA, USA

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LA Times wrote:
California welfare recipients using state-issued debit cards withdrew more than $1.8 million in taxpayer cash on casino floors between October 2009 and last month, state officials said Thursday.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger issued an executive order requiring welfare recipients to promise they will use cash benefits only to "meet the basic subsistence needs" of their families. The order also gave the state Department of Social Services seven days to produce a plan to reduce other types of "waste, fraud and abuse" in the welfare program.

Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/polit … 5510.story
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The above image is a debit card that people on Welfare here in California can use just like any other debit card. The card is supposed to be used for "basic subsistence needs", but we all know this is not the case.

1) Why can welfare recipients cash out this debit card?

2) This is free money to poor people...should we just "expect" there will be fraud and abuse because they don't know better?

3) What can be done to eliminate the abuse?

4) Is the response by the governor "request welfare recipients to promise" a lame response? Isn't that like catching your Uncle John at the Blackjack table after you just gave me $2,000 for his mortgage payment to make the same promise?

2010-06-26 08:29:15

#2

Benzin: Member; +576|6284

In Georgia they have something similar, but it isn't a Visa card and it can only be used at grocery stores.

2010-06-26 08:30:42

#3

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6814|Global Command

This is sooo California

2010-06-26 08:31:45

#4

jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

We get £55 a week for basic, out of work welfare. What do ya get over there?

2010-06-26 08:32:43

#5

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6814|Global Command

I couldn't say, but I plan to find out.

If you can't beat 'em...

2010-06-26 08:34:28

#6

jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

I believe it goes up once over the age of 21 here too. £110 every 2 weeks, of which 10% of that will go on Taxi's to get to the welfare centre and back.

2010-06-26 08:44:54

#7

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6866|the dank(super) side of Oregon

why the hell can they cash it out? the poor people cards in Oregon can only be used at grocery/convenience stores to buy food type things.

California puts such an effort into sucking.

2010-06-26 09:01:58

#8

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6934

Reciprocity wrote:
why the hell can they cash it out? the poor people cards in Oregon can only be used at grocery/convenience stores to buy food type things.

California puts such an effort into sucking.

This. Allowing people to withdraw cash on it allows it to be spent of gambling and drugs. At least try to make it difficult for people to abuse the system.

2010-06-26 09:06:40

#9

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6853|Mountains of NC

remember the FEMA cards that handed out during Katrina ..... I saw probably a dozen customers using those cards in my store

my store isn't where they should be using those cards .................... but since they did .... Thanks

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2010-06-26 09:08:38

#10

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|6246|Places 'n such

CapnNismo wrote:
only be used at grocery stores.

Seems the obvious solution...

I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.

2010-06-26 09:10:38

#11

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6866|SE London

jord wrote:
I believe it goes up once over the age of 21 here too. £110 every 2 weeks, of which 10% of that will go on Taxi's to get to the welfare centre and back.

25 I think. Not 21.

Isn't it for only 6 months then they can force you to take any job that's available?

2010-06-26 09:12:04

#12

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|6246|Places 'n such

Bertster7 wrote:
jord wrote:
I believe it goes up once over the age of 21 here too. £110 every 2 weeks, of which 10% of that will go on Taxi's to get to the welfare centre and back.
25 I think. Not 21.

Isn't it for only 6 months then they can force you to take any job that's available?

Think they can make you do voluntary work after a while

I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.

2010-06-26 09:12:19

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6934

SEREMAKER wrote:
remember the FEMA cards that handed out during Katrina ..... I saw probably a dozen customers using those cards in my store

my store isn't where they should be using those cards .................... but since they did .... Thanks

What does your store sell? I like to think bourbon, guns and large knifes. And pornography.

2010-06-26 09:14:16

#14

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6853|Mountains of NC

ghettoperson wrote:
SEREMAKER wrote:
remember the FEMA cards that handed out during Katrina ..... I saw probably a dozen customers using those cards in my store

my store isn't where they should be using those cards .................... but since they did .... Thanks
What does your store sell? I like to think bourbon, guns and large knifes. And pornography.

2 out of 4 .... sometimes 3 out of 4

clicky

2010-06-26 09:23:59

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jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

Bertster7 wrote:
jord wrote:
I believe it goes up once over the age of 21 here too. £110 every 2 weeks, of which 10% of that will go on Taxi's to get to the welfare centre and back.
25 I think. Not 21.

Isn't it for only 6 months then they can force you to take any job that's available?

Yes you're correct it is 25. They probably can force you to take any job that's available, but there are always ways out for the grossly lazy. Watch "Trainspotting", he has to go for an interview, but he has to find the line between doing too well and being accepted, and doing so badly he is clearly not trying and will have his welfare revoked.

2010-06-26 09:29:49

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Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6866|SE London

jord wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
jord wrote:
I believe it goes up once over the age of 21 here too. £110 every 2 weeks, of which 10% of that will go on Taxi's to get to the welfare centre and back.
25 I think. Not 21.

Isn't it for only 6 months then they can force you to take any job that's available?
Yes you're correct it is 25. They probably can force you to take any job that's available, but there are always ways out for the grossly lazy. Watch "Trainspotting", he has to go for an interview, but he has to find the line between doing too well and being accepted, and doing so badly he is clearly not trying and will have his welfare revoked.

I remember that because I got more than my brother (who is over 21) when we were both out of work for a few months - you always want to sign on right away if you ever lose your job, it counts as being employed for state pension contributions.

2010-06-26 09:32:22

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jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

Bertster7 wrote:
jord wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:

25 I think. Not 21.

Isn't it for only 6 months then they can force you to take any job that's available?
Yes you're correct it is 25. They probably can force you to take any job that's available, but there are always ways out for the grossly lazy. Watch "Trainspotting", he has to go for an interview, but he has to find the line between doing too well and being accepted, and doing so badly he is clearly not trying and will have his welfare revoked.
I remember that because I got more than my brother (who is over 21) when we were both out of work for a few months - you always want to sign on right away if you ever lose your job, it counts as being employed for state pension contributions.

I signed on when I left the Army straight away, granted because I had no money, not for state pension contributions

2010-06-26 09:42:34

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Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6866|SE London

jord wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
jord wrote:

Yes you're correct it is 25. They probably can force you to take any job that's available, but there are always ways out for the grossly lazy. Watch "Trainspotting", he has to go for an interview, but he has to find the line between doing too well and being accepted, and doing so badly he is clearly not trying and will have his welfare revoked.
I remember that because I got more than my brother (who is over 21) when we were both out of work for a few months - you always want to sign on right away if you ever lose your job, it counts as being employed for state pension contributions.
I signed on when I left the Army straight away, granted because I had no money, not for state pension contributions

Money, pension - it's all good.

Going to the job centre is not though. I hated going to the job centre. The people who work there are all chumps who only seem capable of helping incompetent losers who have been claiming JSA long term to find loopholes to enable them to continue claiming benefits.

2010-06-26 09:47:27

#19

jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

Bertster7 wrote:
jord wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:

I remember that because I got more than my brother (who is over 21) when we were both out of work for a few months - you always want to sign on right away if you ever lose your job, it counts as being employed for state pension contributions.
I signed on when I left the Army straight away, granted because I had no money, not for state pension contributions
Money, pension - it's all good.

Going to the job centre is not though. I hated going to the job centre. The people who work there are all chumps who only seem capable of helping incompetent losers who have been claiming JSA long term to find loopholes to enable them to continue claiming benefits.

It depends on who you get. If it were like a fixed advisor system then that might be better. I get someone different everytime it seems, all with varying degrees of helpfulness. Maybe Wednesdays the bad day to sign on though...

There's a new Tesco opening up a town over in Accrinton, supposed to be 500 jobs all going to JSA claimants. With further research I found half were part time jobs, not that it matters because you have to be on JSA for at least 6 months to be eligible!

2010-06-26 09:49:34

#20

=NHB=Shadow: hi; +322|6651|California

I want some free cash!!!

2010-06-26 09:51:30

#21

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6866|SE London

jord wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
jord wrote:

I signed on when I left the Army straight away, granted because I had no money, not for state pension contributions
Money, pension - it's all good.

Going to the job centre is not though. I hated going to the job centre. The people who work there are all chumps who only seem capable of helping incompetent losers who have been claiming JSA long term to find loopholes to enable them to continue claiming benefits.
It depends on who you get. If it were like a fixed advisor system then that might be better. I get someone different everytime it seems, all with varying degrees of helpfulness. Maybe Wednesdays the bad day to sign on though...

There's a new Tesco opening up a town over in Accrinton, supposed to be 500 jobs all going to JSA claimants. With further research I found half were part time jobs, not that it matters because you have to be on JSA for at least 6 months to be eligible!

Accrington Stanley, who are they?

Sorry - reminded me of the old milk adverts.

2010-06-26 09:55:41

#22

jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

Bertster7 wrote:
jord wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Money, pension - it's all good.

Going to the job centre is not though. I hated going to the job centre. The people who work there are all chumps who only seem capable of helping incompetent losers who have been claiming JSA long term to find loopholes to enable them to continue claiming benefits.
It depends on who you get. If it were like a fixed advisor system then that might be better. I get someone different everytime it seems, all with varying degrees of helpfulness. Maybe Wednesdays the bad day to sign on though...

There's a new Tesco opening up a town over in Accrinton, supposed to be 500 jobs all going to JSA claimants. With further research I found half were part time jobs, not that it matters because you have to be on JSA for at least 6 months to be eligible!
Accrington Stanley, who are they?

Sorry - reminded me of the old milk adverts.

I know of what you mean from that recent advert in which that guy was doing all the voices to old adverts. I haven't seen the orignial though, being a young, fit and healthy young man with all his life ahead of him

Here's a fact on the populace of Blackburn, my hometown. EVERYONE "knows" someone who plays for Accrington Stanley. Like EVERYONE in or around Hereford "knows" the SAS second man on the balcony in the Iranian embassy siege.

Last edited by jord (2010-06-26 09:56:05)

2010-06-26 10:36:41

#23

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5759|Ventura, California

Welfare users should be given up to 6 months then they no longer receive any more money. Anybody can find a job in 6 months, even if it's being a janitor or something. If they get a cheap job like that they can continue searching for something better, whilst not using AMERICAN taxpayer money to live.

In fact, the government should just give them some shitty job they can just live off of with proper money managing and they receive what their earn.

Then we wouldn't be discussing these losers who used taxpayer money to win millions.

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2010-06-26 10:38:03

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Reciprocity: Member; +721|6866|the dank(super) side of Oregon

the child has an opinion.

2010-06-26 10:38:16

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eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5544|foggy bottom

you guys think 1.8 million is a lot? We waste more than that in 5 minutes on crony defense contracts.

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