Listening to music not a valid hobby?

2010-06-24 23:35:05

#1

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

Someone can say they sat around reading a book all day and people would think they're a cultured fellow.
Someone could visit an art gallery and look at paintings all day and people would think they're a cultured fellow.

But if someone said they spent an entire day sitting around listening to music, people would think they're a total loser.

Why is this?

So many people listen to music and enjoy it, how is it so hard to comprehend that people like to take a critical interest in it, the same way with other forms of art like literature or film, for example?

One time a friend of mine could not for the life of him understand how or why I get excited for new music from certain artists. I was shocked.

Am I insane for thinking listening to music is an actual hobby (that I spend a considerable amount of time doing)? Or is it just that a lot of other people don't understand?

2010-06-24 23:38:41

#2

jsnipy: ...; +3,276|6733|...

this is your answer

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2010-06-24 23:57:13

#3

Defiance: Member; +438|6882

Because of all the fine arts, music has been the most grossly embraced by the lowest social statuses. It's the easiest to "enjoy" whereas literature and graphical arts are immediately a interpretive chore which is a wall that must be overcome before one begins to derive pleasure from reading or browsing an art gallery.

Edit: To be clear, that's not to say music doesn't have the depth of other arts, just that you don't see the equivelant of this tripe in books or art galleries, besides Twilight, of course.

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2010-06-25 00:22:14

#4

eskimo_sammyjoe: Did someone say tea?; +112|6446|S.A. Australia

You can't really compare music to art from a gallery because the two are completely different. Art in a gallery is there for a reason; because someone has waded through the crap and found a good painting/sculpture/diorama etc, that is deemed worthy of being shown to the public while anyone can write a song and have it thrown at the masses without any criticism.

To compare properly, you'd need to look at ALL paintings that are done, from useless scribblings and stick figures all the way up to the good stuff that "experts' deem worthy of putting on display.

If you said to someone "oh I enjoy looking through finger paintings and hand traced turkeys", no one would think that you're cultured at all.

Serious Flex

2010-06-25 00:34:02

#5

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

I was using the "cultured" vs. "loser" not in a literal way but in the sense that someone can spend a lot of time on one art form and be looked upon highly and be accepted, while spending a lot of time on another can be frowned upon and shunned.

Art is subjective, you don't need someone's opinion to enjoy something and know whether you yourself like it.

Part of the fun is going through massive amounts of music and coming across some real gems. What if I listen to the 'real gems' all day long, the music that is truly deserving of my time, and not "hand-traced turkeys"? Is that still frowned upon?

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2010-06-25 00:43:42

#6

eskimo_sammyjoe: Did someone say tea?; +112|6446|S.A. Australia

I agree with you that if you say "I enjoy art", or "I enjoy literature" people tend to see these as positive engagements rather than "I like music". I think the difference between saying you like art and you like music is that everyone likes music. I've never met someone who says that they don't like any music at all. We're bombarded with music even when we aren't seeking it, such as radios, on tv and so on, but art and literature are something that must be actively pursued.

Mind you, if you said "I like listening to classical music", people may see that differently too...

Serious Flex

2010-06-25 00:48:05

#7

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

That's very true. It's like what Defiance mentioned earlier, too many retards out there saying "hurr durr I liek muzik!" and then they go driving around blasting Kevin Federline's 'Popozao'.

I guess I'm just fed up with being classified as a moron by default when I say one of my hobbies is listening to music

2010-06-25 00:57:11

#8

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7021|Nårvei

One of my hobbies are listening to music, I can spend an entire day doing nothing else ... with the right kind of music that is therapy

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2010-06-25 01:23:15

#9

Defiance: Member; +438|6882

eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
You can't really compare music to art from a gallery because the two are completely different. Art in a gallery is there for a reason; because someone has waded through the crap and found a good painting/sculpture/diorama etc, that is deemed worthy of being shown to the public while anyone can write a song and have it thrown at the masses without any criticism.

To compare properly, you'd need to look at ALL paintings that are done, from useless scribblings and stick figures all the way up to the good stuff that "experts' deem worthy of putting on display.

If you said to someone "oh I enjoy looking through finger paintings and hand traced turkeys", no one would think that you're cultured at all.

Then they are not different at all. I did not provide an example of a 4 year old smashing their hands on a piano, the equivalent of a scribble figure, I showed you a genuine piece of professionally made and produced music that was deemed worthy of the public by whatever misguided shits call the recording industry home.

2010-06-25 01:45:46

#10

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6927

Music is amazing... it can take you back in time in an instant to remind you of a girl you had forgotten about...or a really great summer or a song that was popular when someone you loved died... Who cares if music is a hobby or not... enjoy it

some people collect dead bugs as a hobby... hopefully they have some cool music to listen to while they do it.

Love is the answer

2010-06-25 01:55:44

#11

DefCon-17: Maple Syrup Faggot; +362|6367|Vancouver | Canada

Catbox wrote:
some people collect dead bugs as a hobby... hopefully they have some cool music to listen to while they do it.

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2010-06-25 02:04:20

#12

eskimo_sammyjoe: Did someone say tea?; +112|6446|S.A. Australia

Defiance wrote:
eskimo_sammyjoe wrote:
You can't really compare music to art from a gallery because the two are completely different. Art in a gallery is there for a reason; because someone has waded through the crap and found a good painting/sculpture/diorama etc, that is deemed worthy of being shown to the public while anyone can write a song and have it thrown at the masses without any criticism.

To compare properly, you'd need to look at ALL paintings that are done, from useless scribblings and stick figures all the way up to the good stuff that "experts' deem worthy of putting on display.

If you said to someone "oh I enjoy looking through finger paintings and hand traced turkeys", no one would think that you're cultured at all.
Then they are not different at all. I did not provide an example of a 4 year old smashing their hands on a piano, the equivalent of a scribble figure, I showed you a genuine piece of professionally made and produced music that was deemed worthy of the public by whatever misguided shits call the recording industry home.

Yeah I see your point. I guess it's easier to make terrible art than it is to make terrible music, but once the terrible music has been made and somehow approved by the "misguided shits that call the recording industry home", it's a lot more difficult to avoid than terrible art is.

Serious Flex

2010-06-25 05:42:26

#13

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6860

Defiance wrote:
Because of all the fine arts, music has been the most grossly embraced by the lowest social statuses. It's the easiest to "enjoy" whereas literature and graphical arts are immediately a interpretive chore which is a wall that must be overcome before one begins to derive pleasure from reading or browsing an art gallery.

Edit: To be clear, that's not to say music doesn't have the depth of other arts, just that you don't see the equivelant of this tripe in books or art galleries, besides Twilight, of course.

Fuck you, that song is amazing

2010-06-25 06:03:39

#14

liquidat0r: wtf.; +2,223|6838|UK

Probably because people often listen to music while doing something else, so they're not used to just listening to music.

Depends what people listen to. I don't really class listening to the radio as a hobby, but I would class taking an interest in lots of music, finding new & old artists and explorer genres as a hobby.

Defiance wrote:
just that you don't see the equivelant of this tripe in books or art galleries

I actually said "fail" out-loud. wtf is that

2010-06-25 07:48:37

#15

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6317|eXtreme to the maX

Its a fairly passive hobby.

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2010-06-25 07:51:46

#16

jord: Member; +2,382|6889|The North, beyond the wall.

It begs the question, can sitting and watching youtube videos of car chases be considered a hobby...

2010-06-25 10:59:29

#17

Defiance: Member; +438|6882

liquidat0r wrote:
Defiance wrote:
just that you don't see the equivelant of this tripe in books or art galleries
I actually said "fail" out-loud. wtf is that

Sorry?

It begs the question, can sitting and watching youtube videos of car chases be considered a hobby...

Not if all you're doing is watching them.

2010-06-25 13:45:46

#18

Phrozenbot: Member; +632|6827|do not disturb

I multitask when I listen to music. PT, cleaning, work on my computer, reading online, etc. I'll turn it off it becomes distracting. Listening to just music all day can be a complete waste of time, no matter how worthy a listen.

2010-06-25 14:40:04

#19

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

But there's a huge difference in having music on in the background while doing other stuff, and listening intently with full attention and focus. You can't enjoy an Oscar-worthy film if it's just playing in the background while you're doing a million other things, the same for Emmy-worthy TV shows.

In order to properly enjoy and appreciate art (which is a hobby of many), IMO, you must be paying full attention.

I suppose the main issue here is a difference in definition. When I say I listen to music as a hobby, most people think that I'm sitting around doing a bunch of other things with some music on in the background. However, I mean it as actually listening and paying attention to it, with as little other distractions as possible.

2010-06-25 14:50:27

#20

JakAttaK: csanva<3; +492|6537|England

I can never just have music on in the background. Since I started the course I was on, I just listen to it as intently as I can, to hear how the song has been made and produced. I still find music really enjoyable, but would it make it anymore of hobby?

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2010-06-25 14:55:14

#21

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

Furthermore, people spend money not only on the music itself, but in upgrading their systems to ensure the best possible listening quality. Is that not what hobbyists do? Spend money to further their hobby and get greater enjoyment out of it, or to deepen their understanding of it?

2010-06-25 15:13:06

#22

liquidat0r: wtf.; +2,223|6838|UK

Defiance wrote:
liquidat0r wrote:
Defiance wrote:
just that you don't see the equivelant of this tripe in books or art galleries
I actually said "fail" out-loud. wtf is that
Sorry?

I was agreeing that the song sucks

/off-topic

2010-06-25 16:41:01

#23

mkxiii: online bf2s mek evasion; +509|6447|Uk

listening to music is an activity most often done while doing something else, and the other thing is what you give most of your attention to

music is a background activity

2010-06-25 16:42:59

#24

mtb0minime: minimember; +2,418|6866

mkxiii wrote:
listening to music is an activity most often done while doing something else, and the other thing is what you give most of your attention to

music is a background activity

...for many people.

But what if you make it a foreground activity? Does it not become a legitimate hobby at that point?

2010-06-26 00:18:28

#25

ROGUEDD: BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.; +452|5600|Fuck this.

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