Des.Kmal
Member
+917|6837|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
What you do is rate a kit/weapon, the overall benefit of it and the unlocks out of 10. And hoe much you use it and how annoying it is to be killed by it.

The first one is, Engineer/jackhammer.

I give it an 8.7/10, it would get a 10/10 but the repair points are hard to get and it has no long range benefit at all... none.

What do you guys think of it?

I use it the most out of all the kits, and I like it the most. It is very annoying to be killed by a mine out of no where though.

Last edited by Kmal1 (2006-04-30 14:39:34)

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Duncan1234
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+5|6822
sniper/L96A1

I give it 9/10 its highly accurate n i gd 4 long range shots(well most snper rifles r) but i think the mag cud be bigger a 10 round mag wud be better than 5

i use sniper kit most, but its not my best kit. it is annoyin when u get shot frm a range n u dont no where it came frm n u go bak 2 luk 4 tht shooter n u get slotted by him again
Des.Kmal
Member
+917|6837|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Lol, I meant rate the one I put up,

Engineer
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+139|6892|Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia
engineer/jackhamer 7/10 okay
but
engineer/M11-87(reg. shoty) is the best 9/10
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6905
I like the MP7 a little better than the jackhammer.  You have more range with the MP7.  I have to agree repair points are a little hard to come by. You should get one for removing a mine/claymore.

I give it a 8.5/10.
:]-[: El_Shiznit
Member
+3|6968|Florida
Engineer.  That's my kit.

The Jackhammer is probably the worst engineer weapon in my book.  It doesn't have the power that the NOR and M11 have.  And the MP7 along with every other submachine gun in the game are now superb weapons post-1.2.  It may have an power advantage over the S12K which functions basically the same, but for some reason, it seems the firing rate is much faster on the S12K as compared to the Jackhammer.  This is more important most of the time in my opinion because the damage per shot on both the Jackhammer and S12K are both high and it usually will come down to who fires those 7 shots first.

I give it a 6/10 cause it is still a good overall weapon though there's better in the class.

NOR>M11>S12K>MP7>MK3A1
(And yes, I know the NOR and M11 are basically the same.  But the NOR is more obscure and I like that )

Engineer is a generally disliked kit.  Repair points won't come in masses unless you're in an armor column or have some persistent spec op enemies.  But I'm on armor whore basically, so to me, engineer is standard.  The main weapons are going to excel in close quarter combat, but from a distance, they are nearly useless.  Engineers should play more defensively when not in armor.  Laying mines helps and surprising enemies that walk around a corner is effective for the kit.  Unfortunately, the majority of BF2 players seem to not know the meaning of defense.

9/10 for me
4/10 for everyone else




So how do we move on to new kits?

Last edited by :]-[: El_Shiznit (2006-05-01 00:18:03)

xbrandomx
Member
+9|6869
medic- you can medic whore.

10/10

Bonus(es):
1. make somebody walk infront of you up stairs and revive them
2. revive a friend before capping a flag so hopefully they'll start shooting at him and you can get the kill
3. heal points
4. a good solid kit (nades and good gun... need anything else?)
5. everybody around you can stay in-tact for you to accomplish something
6. most of the guns are good (gotta love the G36-E and the AK101)

Last edited by xbrandomx (2006-05-01 02:46:23)

TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|6843|Birmingham, UK
I used to hate being Engineer. Now I love it! Sadly, I have to wait until I'm Sergeant Major until I can get the Engineer unlocks. The S12K is amazing, and when I've picked up a Jackhammer - simply the best! Can't wait until I get to 50000 points! I'd give it 9.2/10!
Also, for the range use the pistol! Great weapon! Out-sniping snipers with a pistol is my favourite...

Last edited by TheDarkRaven (2006-05-01 02:51:27)

The1_Knightmare
Alt+F4 For God-Mode
+14|6845
The M4 beats all the other shotgun, but that's Euro Force.

Medic:
Heal, revive friends, great guns.
G36E>L85A1>Ak47>AK101>M16 (i cant stand the M16's burst, but for some reason, love the G36E's burst).

I would say i's only cons are it cant fight vehicles, no armour (who needs it anyway) and in SF, no special equipment.

EDIT: Forgot Famas. That goes inbetween G36E and L85A1.

Last edited by The1_Knightmare (2006-05-01 03:49:59)

savking
Member
+37|6806|England
i also used to h8 enginer but now im inlove with the mines n all the shot guns! i love the first shot gun unlock (duno name) aparently u can unload all the rounds in just under 2 secs
=TH=[Eleanor]-NL-
The Karma Collector!
+233|6909|The Netherlands
medic 10/10 for sure, it's just not fair how much points a medic (a good one) can make in a round compared to for example an Assault. I also find it weird that the Medic has got a better assault rifle (G36E) than the Assault, for example the F2000. And another thing, the GL suck big time in this version, I'd say go for the Medic all the time: Good assault rifle, healing yourself and healing others and reviving. + It has granades which are a lot more useful than those !#@$ GL again...
Des.Kmal
Member
+917|6837|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

=TH=[Eleanor]-NL- wrote:

medic 10/10 for sure, it's just not fair how much points a medic (a good one) can make in a round compared to for example an Assault. I also find it weird that the Medic has got a better assault rifle (G36E) than the Assault, for example the F2000. And another thing, the GL suck big time in this version, I'd say go for the Medic all the time: Good assault rifle, healing yourself and healing others and reviving. + It has granades which are a lot more useful than those !#@$ GL again...
Yeah, I know. I feel bad know when I use medic because I get n the upwards of 80 to 90 points each round. On this site called IGN, I have been called a stawhore because of my stats...

Oh well...

Should there be a new kit now?

How about... ... support. I am sure that will bring up some controversy.

I give it a 9/10. With teh PKM you are almost unstoppable, and just chunk ammo bags at everyone you see, you can get in the high 100's.

Support kit.
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TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|6843|Birmingham, UK

=TH=[Eleanor]-NL- wrote:

medic 10/10 for sure, it's just not fair how much points a medic (a good one) can make in a round compared to for example an Assault. I also find it weird that the Medic has got a better assault rifle (G36E) than the Assault, for example the F2000. And another thing, the GL suck big time in this version, I'd say go for the Medic all the time: Good assault rifle, healing yourself and healing others and reviving. + It has granades which are a lot more useful than those !#@$ GL again...
Like I have said time and time again - give the F2000 a tear gas launcher instead of the GL. But no grenades. Make it different.
SaladForks
/ph34r
+129|6801|Eastern USA
Anti-Tank, 8.5/10

It has good Anti-Vehicle weapons, which can also count as far range Anti-Infantry.

The DAO/P90 are good for Close/Med ranges

Pistol is there if you need to pin-point shoot enemies.

Body Armor helps.

I think it's a great all around kit.
<b|k> lukie
Member
+7|6941|Germany
Antitank 100%

Regardig infantry:
Eryx: long, mid and close range weapon
DAO12: short and perhaps mid range weapon
Pistol: long, mid and close range weapon
Knife:

4 weapons if you have to kill much enemy infanty. Eryx -> DAO12 -> pistol -> knife

Body armor helps surviving firefights, but you run out of stamina quickly.

Most important point: AT can fight EVERYTHING except airplanes: Armor, transport, helos, Infantry and snipers.
My_pet_squirrel
Have you seen my nutz?
+126|6839

DSRTurtle wrote:

I like the MP7 a little better than the jackhammer.  You have more range with the MP7.  I have to agree repair points are a little hard to come by. You should get one for removing a mine/claymore.

I give it a 8.5/10.
if they were to do that it means that you should only be able to place less than 6 i mean 6 repair points is too many
SaladForks
/ph34r
+129|6801|Eastern USA

<b|k> lukie wrote:

Antitank 100%

4 weapons if you have to kill much enemy infanty. Eryx -> DAO12 -> pistol -> knife

Most important point: AT can fight EVERYTHING except airplanes: Armor, transport, helos, Infantry and snipers.
Yeah, I should probably raise my 8.5 to a 9.5 or 10.

Also, don't forget that unlock, the P90. I've seen it work wonders close-med range.

And for the last part, Infantry and Snipers are the same category
Marinejuana
local
+415|6804|Seattle
spec ops 10/10 - g36c

fastest/almost most accurate primary

you get to take out all their armor in the most humiliating ways

you get a silenced pistol - THESE ARE SO DEADLY (tap your finger like eddie van halen once youve aimed)

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medic 11/10 g36e or L85

Putting any effort into getting points out of this kit is almost stat padding. I've stopped using it because I feel too guilty.

The L85 is better for being low-key and long range. The g36e is better all around for CQ but using the bursts makes you a bit more of a target than when popping heads on single shot with the L85.

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Anti-tank 9/10 p90

The only problem here is that anyone carrying a carbine or assault rifle will probably win the shoot out if u both face off at once.

This just means you have to be sneaky and maybe a little bit distant from your targets. This happens to be ideal because its also the best strategy for firing on armor.

Plus, anybody standing or lying still gets instant death from the eryx.

This is one of the only guns in the game where you can just get repeated hits while firing full auto at medium range, so it also works to leap out from around corners shooting instantly.

I also like the other smgs, but 50 bullets has saved me so many times when 1 infantry turned out to be 3.
DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6905

My_pet_squirrel wrote:

DSRTurtle wrote:

I like the MP7 a little better than the jackhammer.  You have more range with the MP7.  I have to agree repair points are a little hard to come by. You should get one for removing a mine/claymore.

I give it a 8.5/10.
if they were to do that it means that you should only be able to place less than 6 i mean 6 repair points is too many
Why?  Depending on the map you can easily get 30 - 40 heal or ammo points in a round.  Getting 25 repair points is much harder.  I got 17 in a round earlier this week.  I have gotten something like 70 ammo points in a round before.  Thanks to a bunch of snipers and AT guys on a Warlord map.

Last edited by DSRTurtle (2006-05-01 18:11:11)

FesterTheMolester
BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums
+157|6859|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer

Kmal1 wrote:

=TH=[Eleanor]-NL- wrote:

medic 10/10 for sure, it's just not fair how much points a medic (a good one) can make in a round compared to for example an Assault. I also find it weird that the Medic has got a better assault rifle (G36E) than the Assault, for example the F2000. And another thing, the GL suck big time in this version, I'd say go for the Medic all the time: Good assault rifle, healing yourself and healing others and reviving. + It has granades which are a lot more useful than those !#@$ GL again...
Yeah, I know. I feel bad know when I use medic because I get n the upwards of 80 to 90 points each round. On this site called IGN, I have been called a stawhore because of my stats...

Oh well...

Should there be a new kit now?

How about... ... support. I am sure that will bring up some controversy.

I give it a 9/10. With teh PKM you are almost unstoppable, and just chunk ammo bags at everyone you see, you can get in the high 100's.

Support kit.
8.7/10 

pkm is unstoppable, you can ammo whore, and easily end up with more team points than combat points
this makes for a hella good score, and a good team player, especially during the beginning of karkand, where everyone is nade whoring,  you throw mad ammo bags, and start off with 10 points before even risking your ARMOR PLATED body, thats right, takes quite a bit to kill you as well



marinejuana wrote:

medic 11/10 g36e or L85

Putting any effort into getting points out of this kit is almost stat padding. I've stopped using it because I feel too guilty.

The L85 is better for being low-key and long range. The g36e is better all around for CQ but using the bursts makes you a bit more of a target than when popping heads on single shot with the L85.
no doubt, easily racking up 500-700 daily, with no effort what-so-ever, i never got many heal points(still dont have my vet first aid) but crazy revives and kills- I <3 G36E, ridiculously accurate, close range and semi-far, best burst weapon i the game-my opinion
10/10

Last edited by FesterTheMolester (2006-05-01 18:21:24)

Des.Kmal
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+917|6837|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Next kit... how about... assault.

I give it a 7.9/10 because there is no team points in it what so ever. Except kill assist. lol

Rate away.
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FesterTheMolester
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Kmal1 wrote:

Next kit... how about... assault.

I give it a 7.9/10 because there is no team points in it what so ever. Except kill assist. lol

Rate away.
yea, i only use it cuz i love the gl kills, not much more saisfying than that, WHAM

f2000= 7/10

g3= 7.5/10
Des.Kmal
Member
+917|6837|Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Argh! I hate the dumb knub gl whores. Almost as bad as the claymore whores... almost....

Next kit...? Uh... ... have we done all of them?
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DSRTurtle
Member
+56|6905
I like the F2000 and the G3.  I give it 8/10.  Flashbangs are great for gettign away from armor or giving your AT guys a chance against it
Longbow
Member
+163|6866|Odessa, Ukraine
Medic , 10\10

AK-101 , M16A2 , AK-47 , L85A1 , G36E ( only newbs are fond of easy kills with two bursts , Pro's use default weapons )

Assault , 9/10 ( it would be 10/10 , but patch 1.20 made GL using very uneffective , only direct hit kills full health enemy )

M16A2 , AK-101 , AK-47 , G3 ( no GL , with attached GL it would be better , maybe even 1st place in my list ) , F2000 ( just hate this gun , it suck at close range and isn't so accurate as M16A2 )


didn't include EF weapons in list , because just used them only in test mode with bots (don't have credit card for purchase and download EF )

Last edited by Longbow (2006-05-02 13:13:50)

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