Hey... how about this?...JohnG@lt wrote:
Sure, compound the problem by putting the offshore drilling industry, which Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas depend on for billions in annual revenue, out of business as well.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Everyone who lost their jobs in the southeast because of it are overreacting? Everyone on cleanup who're getting sick because of it overreact?JohnG@lt wrote:
Still burning carbon to generate the force necessary to fly the plane.
An oil spill of this magnitude has never occurred before and I doubt seriously that it will ever happen again. Yes, it's terrible, but people are overreacting in a huge way.
JohnG@lt wrote:
While it sucks that it's going to hurt Florida Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas pretty badly, perhaps now is the perfect time for people in these states to move their economy away from relying solely on tourism and building new homes for retirees. heavily on offshore drilling. Silver lining perhaps.
Then we will just continue breeding like bacteria and run up against another resource limit.Stubbee wrote:
Fusion power
/problem
The ITER will probably not work.
However I more faith in the EMC2 system being developed based on the Farnsworth fusor.
they have been saying a tokomak reactor will ready in 30 years. they have been saying that for the last 30+ years. After spending billions of dollars it isn't any closer to fruition.Spark wrote:
why so pessimistic about ITER?
Because the reality is we aren't moving away from an oil based economy any time in the near (or foreseeable distant) future and pushing drilling overseas does nothing to solve the problem, it just makes it someone elses problem and enriches other nations at our own expense. I know you agree with me on this too. Damn your Devil's AdvocacyTurquoise wrote:
Hey... how about this?...JohnG@lt wrote:
Sure, compound the problem by putting the offshore drilling industry, which Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas depend on for billions in annual revenue, out of business as well.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Everyone who lost their jobs in the southeast because of it are overreacting? Everyone on cleanup who're getting sick because of it overreact?JohnG@lt wrote:
While it sucks that it's going to hurt Florida Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas pretty badly, perhaps now is the perfect time for people in these states to move their economy away from relying solely on tourism and building new homes for retirees. heavily on offshore drilling. Silver lining perhaps.
Really? I thought everyone was in agreement that 2030-2050 was a reasonable date. In any case there have been quite a few leaps forward in fusion and plasma containment technology but with most cutting-edge science, it slips under the radar.Stubbee wrote:
they have been saying a tokomak reactor will ready in 30 years. they have been saying that for the last 30+ years. After spending billions of dollars it isn't any closer to fruition.Spark wrote:
why so pessimistic about ITER?
I know what you're saying, but I seriously think this is a perfect turning point to push for alternative energy.JohnG@lt wrote:
Because the reality is we aren't moving away from an oil based economy any time in the near (or foreseeable distant) future and pushing drilling overseas does nothing to solve the problem, it just makes it someone elses problem and enriches other nations at our own expense. I know you agree with me on this too. Damn your Devil's Advocacy
an oil rig could blow upburnzz wrote:
Good One, Chief
we are allowing deep water drilling under 1973 shallow water off shore guide lines (established soon after the OPEC embargo) enforced by the agency responsible for collecting the royalties from the oil companies. what could go wrong?
Turquoise wrote:
If we stopped providing tax breaks to the oil industry and replaced them with subsidies and tax breaks for other energy sources (like nuclear power), then we'd move away from our oil addiction slowly but surely.
cleaning up an oil spill vs ultra long term storage of spent but still radio-active uranium fuel rods.... ummmSpark wrote:
I wouldn't say no to tax breaks for nuclear power. Modern fast breeders are becoming very good.
fun factStubbee wrote:
cleaning up an oil spill vs ultra long term storage of spent but still radio-active uranium fuel rods.... ummmSpark wrote:
I wouldn't say no to tax breaks for nuclear power. Modern fast breeders are becoming very good.
we need non polluting solutions like
stirling solar generators
aneutronic fusion power
You're a fool if you believe that is a good idea.FloppY_ wrote:
The world needs to do something similar to what Japan does: Max 1 kid per parent!
For one thing, it's not Japan that has that policy...Deadmonkiefart wrote:
You're a fool if you believe that is a good idea.FloppY_ wrote:
The world needs to do something similar to what Japan does: Max 1 kid per parent!
Back on topic, I can not believe that there was not a contingency plan. That's absurd. I also have a hard time believing that the government has failed to really do anything for the past 7 weeks.
EPIC FAIL
That was corrected above, I believe it was china and not japan...Spark wrote:
For one thing, it's not Japan that has that policy...Deadmonkiefart wrote:
You're a fool if you believe that is a good idea.FloppY_ wrote:
The world needs to do something similar to what Japan does: Max 1 kid per parent!
Back on topic, I can not believe that there was not a contingency plan. That's absurd. I also have a hard time believing that the government has failed to really do anything for the past 7 weeks.
EPIC FAIL
I'll start blaming the government when someone tells me what they could've done, aside from yell at BP.
1-child policy is causing all kinda social issues in China. I'd rather not.FloppY_ wrote:
That was corrected above, I believe it was china and not japan...Spark wrote:
For one thing, it's not Japan that has that policy...Deadmonkiefart wrote:
You're a fool if you believe that is a good idea.
Back on topic, I can not believe that there was not a contingency plan. That's absurd. I also have a hard time believing that the government has failed to really do anything for the past 7 weeks.
EPIC FAIL
I'll start blaming the government when someone tells me what they could've done, aside from yell at BP.
And I guess monkiefart is part of a 3 child family no?
I don't see the problem, the planet is dying from overpopulation and a 2kid+2parents limit would stop population from increasing and the 1kid+2parent families would help the population decline without "killing" anyone...
You don't call people with 8 kids a social issue?Spark wrote:
1-child policy is causing all kinda social issues in China. I'd rather not.FloppY_ wrote:
That was corrected above, I believe it was china and not japan...Spark wrote:
For one thing, it's not Japan that has that policy...
I'll start blaming the government when someone tells me what they could've done, aside from yell at BP.
And I guess monkiefart is part of a 3 child family no?
I don't see the problem, the planet is dying from overpopulation and a 2kid+2parents limit would stop population from increasing and the 1kid+2parent families would help the population decline without "killing" anyone...
Wait, so the average family has 8 kids?FloppY_ wrote:
You don't call people with 8 kids a social issue?Spark wrote:
1-child policy is causing all kinda social issues in China. I'd rather not.FloppY_ wrote:
That was corrected above, I believe it was china and not japan...
And I guess monkiefart is part of a 3 child family no?
I don't see the problem, the planet is dying from overpopulation and a 2kid+2parents limit would stop population from increasing and the 1kid+2parent families would help the population decline without "killing" anyone...
No, the average family has 2Spark wrote:
Wait, so the average family has 8 kids?FloppY_ wrote:
You don't call people with 8 kids a social issue?Spark wrote:
1-child policy is causing all kinda social issues in China. I'd rather not.
Which is a problem how?FloppY_ wrote:
No, the average family has 2Spark wrote:
Wait, so the average family has 8 kids?FloppY_ wrote:
You don't call people with 8 kids a social issue?
No, he doesn't. His continent would rather complain about their immigrants rather than worry about the fact that every nation in the Euro zone is well below the population replacement birthrate level.Spark wrote:
Which is a problem how?FloppY_ wrote:
No, the average family has 2Spark wrote:
Wait, so the average family has 8 kids?
Do you realise the massive implications of a low birth rate in most societies?
