BF2S Forums [Official] North Korean vs South Korea

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Dilbert_X wrote:

What about Okinawa then? Seem pretty keen to keep a base there.

What about Okinawa? Not enough real estate there to move all the US forces from Korea to there.

The Okinawa thing is one base, and it's not to keep a base, it's to relocate a base from one part of the island to another. And that's on Japan, not the US.

Trotskygrad wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

What about Okinawa then? Seem pretty keen to keep a base there.

What about Okinawa? Not enough real estate there to move all the US forces from Korea to there.

The Okinawa thing is one base, and it's not to keep a base, it's to relocate a base from one part of the island to another. And that's on Japan, not the US.

whaaaaaaaat.

I thought that they wanted to remove it.

Moving off island was one of the options, relocation was another. They chose relocation.

Commie Killer wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

The RoK Army would get roflstomped and 2ID would be nothing more than a speedbump

Lol like hell. The North Koreans are stuck in the 60's and 70's. They'd destroy and overrun Seoul, but at the end of the day(litterally 3 days), NK would be stopped. Their entire military is a joke, and their only advantages are that 80% of their troops are by the border, and numbers. People give NK too much credit, its not 1975 anymore.

Have you spent time serving in South Korea? What I stated is pretty much the consensus opinion of the dozens of people I have known that did serve over there.

ghettoperson wrote:

North Korea's standing army is twice the size of the South, and has the potential to call up nearly 5 million men if need be. They may be stuck in the past, but they're nothing to sniff at.

Manpower means little in standard conflict these days ghetto, especially when they have such antique equipment. Look at Gulf War One.

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M.O.A.B wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

North Korea's standing army is twice the size of the South, and has the potential to call up nearly 5 million men if need be. They may be stuck in the past, but they're nothing to sniff at.

Manpower means little in standard conflict these days ghetto, especially when they have such antique equipment. Look at Gulf War One.

You say that when you have 5 million troops sitting on your boarder. It's all very well for you armchair generals on a video game forum to bang on about it, but it's pretty widely acknowledged in military academic circles that the South would be fucked if Kim Jong-Il decided he wanted to play rough.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Why the hell should they do that?

Because its within artillery range?

How would that solve "half their problem"?

Because the reason no one will ever try to antagonise NK too much is because if they do, yes NK will get rolled... after razing Seoul and a significant proportion of the population and the vast majority of the economy to the ground.

NeXuS wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

North Korea's standing army is twice the size of the South, and has the potential to call up nearly 5 million men if need be. They may be stuck in the past, but they're nothing to sniff at.

Manpower means little in standard conflict these days ghetto, especially when they have such antique equipment. Look at Gulf War One.

Man power can mean everything in a war. Troops are the backbone of a military. Also look at the character of the NK Army. They will fight to the death, they don't care what it takes, they will fight no matter what. Sometimes that can mean more than having a few updated tanks. Numbers and fighting will is something else to be reckoned with. Never take a battle lightly. You never know what your enemy is capable of. So just don't assume we can run them over in a few days cause our tanks are shinier.

That makes them a good defensive army.

Kez wrote:

They're already at war, I thought they still fired shots at each other?

but if theres a war, SK are fucked. who would China back?

the chinaman is not the issue here, dude

ghettoperson wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

North Korea's standing army is twice the size of the South, and has the potential to call up nearly 5 million men if need be. They may be stuck in the past, but they're nothing to sniff at.

Manpower means little in standard conflict these days ghetto, especially when they have such antique equipment. Look at Gulf War One.

You say that when you have 5 million troops sitting on your boarder. It's all very well for you armchair generals on a video game forum to bang on about it, but it's pretty widely acknowledged in military academic circles that the South would be fucked if Kim Jong-Il decided he wanted to play rough.

Actually its more widely believed that Seoul would be fucked, not the entire South. The North Korean's have one major offensive attribute, artillery, and that artillery can only shoot so far. NK has shortages of fuel and food, so it couldn't sustain a conflict to begin with, and it also only has a million or so active personnel. The five million number would be bolstered with untrained or extremely poorly trained civilians who would more than likely decide that all the bullshit they've been spoon fed over the years isn't actually worth it when they get into combat.

Furthermore, assuming the US assists SK, they're going to gain air superiority pretty quickly. North Korea might be able to dish out some damage at the start of a conflict, but it will ultimately lose and lose hard. A big army these days doesn't mean what it once did, especially when they're carrying outdated equipment.

Trotskygrad wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

You say that when you have 5 million troops sitting on your boarder. It's all very well for you armchair generals on a video game forum to bang on about it, but it's pretty widely acknowledged in military academic circles that the South would be fucked if Kim Jong-Il decided he wanted to play rough.

Actually its more widely believed that Seoul would be fucked, not the entire South. The North Korean's have one major offensive attribute, artillery, and that artillery can only shoot so far. NK has shortages of fuel and food, so it couldn't sustain a conflict to begin with, and it also only has a million or so active personnel. The five million number would be bolstered with untrained or extremely poorly trained civilians who would more than likely decide that all the bullshit they've been spoon fed over the years isn't actually worth it when they get into combat.

Furthermore, assuming the US assists SK, they're going to gain air superiority pretty quickly. North Korea might be able to dish out some damage at the start of a conflict, but it will ultimately lose and lose hard. A big army these days doesn't mean what it once did, especially when they're carrying outdated equipment.

QFT, a good number of those "5 million" are civilians who carry guns around. The NK army would also suffer mass desertions, like MOAB said.

Doubt there would be mass desertions, but they will definitely be nothing more but cannon fodder.