Preparation for Memorial Day

2010-05-30 21:12:26

#1

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6806|San Diego, CA, USA

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It is the VETERAN, not the preacher, who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the VETERAN, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the VETERAN, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the VETERAN, not the campus organizer, who has given us freedom to assemble.

It is the VETERAN, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the VETERAN, not the politician, Who has given us the right to vote.

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It is the VETERAN who salutes the Flag,

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It is the VETERAN who serves under the Flag,

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ETERNAL REST GRANT THEM O LORD, AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEM.

We can be very proud of our young men and women in the service no matter where they serve.

God Bless them all!!!

2010-05-30 21:24:37

#2

blademaster: I'm moving to Brazil; +2,075|6903

may they rest in peace.. or all those who have died protecting this country

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2010-05-31 00:05:41

#3

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6974

God bless them all for their incredible courage,sacrifice and bravery.

Love is the answer

2010-05-31 00:26:01

#4

S3v3N: lolwut?; +685|6776|Montucky

For all the ones that didn't come home.... You will never be forgotten.

Semper Fi

2010-05-31 00:50:35

#5

Little BaBy JESUS: m8; +394|6406|'straya

ruisleipa wrote:
blademaster wrote:
all those who have died protecting this country
is that anyone at all after WWII?

I may not agree with much of the US foreign policy, but don't belittle the sacrifice of ordinary men and women just because you don't believe in what they died for.

2010-05-31 01:00:27

#6

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6480|teh FIN-land

No no no, please don't misunderstand me. I fully appreciate that the biggest sacrifice one can make is to give their life for something/someone. but the same applies to troops who have died for many other countries, including the UK. They haven't died to protect a country. They've died through fuck ups and as tools and playthings for the country's elite. There's a difference. By all means, please remember the dead. But don't dishonour them by assuming everyone who has died in the military died for their country. More likely they died for politicans, and that is certainly true when we consider the vast majority of conflicts the West have been involved in since WWII. Yes it's terrible to see a friend die, or to know someone who dies, of course it is, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I knew one guy, a Finnish soldier serving in the UN, who died when Israel bombed the bunker he was in - a UN observation post. OK, he volunteered to be part of a UN force. But I can remember him while thinking his death was a waste of a life and didn't achieve anything in the end, not really, it was just a fuck up and he became a pawn in a bigger game of international statesmanship and HR atrocities. So, I'm not belittling the sacrifices anyone made. But I am saying that it's disingenous to assume they died for their country or any higher good, and just because a certain soldier might think they are fighting for their country or to make the world a better place or whatever doesn't make it so.

TBH that stuff Harmor posted 'It is the veteran...' etc is just militaristic bullshit. Most veterans, if you mean people who have been in the armed forces, haven't fought anyway, even if they've been in the forces when there's been a war on, they're just tools in the massive machine of a nation's military. Would a cook receive the same level of appreciation as a front-line soldier? Or should they? In fact I'd suggest that most (?) veterans who HAVE fought didn't fight for their country but for the men beside them, wouldn't you agree?

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2010-05-31 06:36:07

#7

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5615|London, England

ruisleipa wrote:
No no no, please don't misunderstand me. I fully appreciate that the biggest sacrifice one can make is to give their life for something/someone. but the same applies to troops who have died for many other countries, including the UK. They haven't died to protect a country. They've died through fuck ups and as tools and playthings for the country's elite. There's a difference. By all means, please remember the dead. But don't dishonour them by assuming everyone who has died in the military died for their country. More likely they died for politicans, and that is certainly true when we consider the vast majority of conflicts the West have been involved in since WWII. Yes it's terrible to see a friend die, or to know someone who dies, of course it is, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I knew one guy, a Finnish soldier serving in the UN, who died when Israel bombed the bunker he was in - a UN observation post. OK, he volunteered to be part of a UN force. But I can remember him while thinking his death was a waste of a life and didn't achieve anything in the end, not really, it was just a fuck up and he became a pawn in a bigger game of international statesmanship and HR atrocities. So, I'm not belittling the sacrifices anyone made. But I am saying that it's disingenous to assume they died for their country or any higher good, and just because a certain soldier might think they are fighting for their country or to make the world a better place or whatever doesn't make it so.

TBH that stuff Harmor posted 'It is the veteran...' etc is just militaristic bullshit. Most veterans, if you mean people who have been in the armed forces, haven't fought anyway, even if they've been in the forces when there's been a war on, they're just tools in the massive machine of a nation's military. Would a cook receive the same level of appreciation as a front-line soldier? Or should they? In fact I'd suggest that most (?) veterans who HAVE fought didn't fight for their country but for the men beside them, wouldn't you agree?

Fuck off moron.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-05-31 07:30:03

#8

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7067|Nårvei

@ruis: You should seriously learn when to shut the fuck up ... let them honor them that made the ultimate sacrifice in peace and go spew your nonsense elsewhere ...

And to everybody else: This is a memorial thread, NOT a debate thread ...

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2010-05-31 07:32:35

#9

Shem: sɥǝɯ; +152|6784|London (At Heart)

JohnG@lt wrote:
ruisleipa wrote:
No no no,...wouldn't you agree?
Fuck off moron.

He has a point you know.

He's just saying that people are generally a pawn in a larger game of chess, which is true for alot of soldiers of almost all conflict.

Though this doesn't belittle the respect that should be given for them.

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2010-05-31 07:50:01

#10

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6480|Escea

RIP all who died.

2010-05-31 08:11:20

#11

mikkel: Member; +383|6859

Varegg wrote:
And to everybody else: This is a memorial thread, NOT a debate thread ...

People have blogs for that. It's pretty tame to come in here and indiscriminately delete posts that don't conform to or agree with the topic.

2010-05-31 08:42:47

#12

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7067|Nårvei

mikkel wrote:
Varegg wrote:
And to everybody else: This is a memorial thread, NOT a debate thread ...
People have blogs for that. It's pretty tame to come in here and indiscriminately delete posts that don't conform to or agree with the topic.

True ... and it's equally lame to not recognize a memorial thread for what it is ... memorial!

Is it really that much to ask for to leave a couple of thread each year alone?

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2010-05-31 09:12:09

#13

pace51: Boom?; +194|5431|Markham, Ontario

I SALUTE YOU... CANADA! YAY CANADA!

Our world war two contributions ended in disaster, but we kicked ass in the first war!

I'm actually putting serious thought into joining the Canadian forces. I looked into a carreer as I pilot. My visions excellent, and everything else, the only problem is I can't do math that great. So the Candian armed forces look pretty good, a paratrooper, If I get elite enough, would be a nice accomplishment. Just a thought... but...

2010-05-31 09:13:49

#14

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5615|London, England

pace51 wrote:
I SALUTE YOU... CANADA! YAY CANADA!

Our world war two contributions ended in disaster, but we kicked ass in the first war!

I'm actually putting serious thought into joining the Canadian forces. I looked into a carreer as I pilot. My visions excellent, and everything else, the only problem is I can't do math that great. So the Candian armed forces look pretty good, a paratrooper, If I get elite enough, would be a nice accomplishment. Just a thought... but...

You guys did yourselves proud at Juno Beach. Don't knock Canadian contributions in WWII

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-05-31 09:16:48

#15

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5517|foggy bottom

everday is a memorial.

Tu Stultus Es

2010-05-31 09:18:23

#16

pace51: Boom?; +194|5431|Markham, Ontario

JohnG@lt wrote:
pace51 wrote:
I SALUTE YOU... CANADA! YAY CANADA!

Our world war two contributions ended in disaster, but we kicked ass in the first war!

I'm actually putting serious thought into joining the Canadian forces. I looked into a carreer as I pilot. My visions excellent, and everything else, the only problem is I can't do math that great. So the Candian armed forces look pretty good, a paratrooper, If I get elite enough, would be a nice accomplishment. Just a thought... but...
You guys did yourselves proud at Juno Beach. Don't knock Canadian contributions in WWII

Yes, we did good. It sucks how we lost a lot of guys, our beach was probably the second worst after Omaha. Dieppe was a disaster, but... I actually really love Canada. Most of the time, when something bad happens, its cause we listened to Britain

Other than the whole railroad thing.

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blademaster wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

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Varegg wrote:

mikkel wrote:

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pace51 wrote:

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