You can at least find depictions of him from as far back as the 1300's.NAthANSmitt wrote:
How do we know what Mohammed looked like anyway?
That would be funny if Mohammed was a Sikh. Actually no it wouldn't, but you get my point.Cybargs wrote:
From post an image thread:
http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/8206/spuie.jpg
To nathan: How do we know what Jesus, Bhudda and Krishna looked like anyway?
Did you even notice that he's way ahead of his time in fashion?ghettoperson wrote:
That would be funny if Mohammed was a Sikh. Actually no it wouldn't, but you get my point.Cybargs wrote:
From post an image thread:
http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/8206/spuie.jpg
To nathan: How do we know what Jesus, Bhudda and Krishna looked like anyway?
Soooo -This thing happen yet? Body count? Funniest picture?
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
"I did not 'declare' May 20 to be "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." I made a cartoon about the television show South Park being censored.
The cartoon-poster, with a fake 'group' behind it, went viral and was taken seriously.I never started a facebook page; a stranger did and there is nothing I can do about it.
My one-off cartoon of a fictional poster does not work well as a long-term plan. The vitriol this 'day' has brought out, of people who only want to draw obscene images,is offensive to the Muslims who did nothing to endanger our right to expression in the first place. Only Viacom and Revolution Muslim are to blame, so write to them instead!
I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off. Thank you to those who are turning this crazy thing into an opportunity for dialogue, education and solutions.
Sincerely,
Cartoonist Molly Norris"
The cartoon-poster, with a fake 'group' behind it, went viral and was taken seriously.I never started a facebook page; a stranger did and there is nothing I can do about it.
My one-off cartoon of a fictional poster does not work well as a long-term plan. The vitriol this 'day' has brought out, of people who only want to draw obscene images,is offensive to the Muslims who did nothing to endanger our right to expression in the first place. Only Viacom and Revolution Muslim are to blame, so write to them instead!
I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off. Thank you to those who are turning this crazy thing into an opportunity for dialogue, education and solutions.
Sincerely,
Cartoonist Molly Norris"
She got scared. Meh' I don't blame her. Being on the top of a radical Islamic hit list isn't exactly where I want my name. Still they got their panties on too tight...ruisleipa wrote:
"I did not 'declare' May 20 to be "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." I made a cartoon about the television show South Park being censored.
The cartoon-poster, with a fake 'group' behind it, went viral and was taken seriously.I never started a facebook page; a stranger did and there is nothing I can do about it.
My one-off cartoon of a fictional poster does not work well as a long-term plan. The vitriol this 'day' has brought out, of people who only want to draw obscene images,is offensive to the Muslims who did nothing to endanger our right to expression in the first place. Only Viacom and Revolution Muslim are to blame, so write to them instead!
I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off. Thank you to those who are turning this crazy thing into an opportunity for dialogue, education and solutions.
Sincerely,
Cartoonist Molly Norris"
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Meanwhile in Australia? What's happening in Australia?AussieReaper wrote:
Meanwhile in Australia:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6292 … 00x225.jpghttp://trueslant.com/michaelpeck/2010/0 … d-protest/No bombs. No murders. No screaming fanatics shouting “Allah Akbar” as they attempt to remove someone’s head for daring to draw the Prophet Muhammed.
When the Atheists, Humanists and Agnostics association at the University of Wisconsin-Madison decided to defend the right of free speech by drawing stick figures of the Prophet Muhammed on campus sidewalks, the campus Muslim Students Association quickly responded.
They followed the atheists on their blasphemous journey, and whenever a drawing of the Prophet Muhammed appeared, the Muslim students drew boxing gloves on the figure, and changed the name to Muhammed Ali.
So she is taking the threats seriously, and is worried. What better evidence to prove a point than a cowering declaration such as this?ruisleipa wrote:
"I did not 'declare' May 20 to be "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." I made a cartoon about the television show South Park being censored.
The cartoon-poster, with a fake 'group' behind it, went viral and was taken seriously.I never started a facebook page; a stranger did and there is nothing I can do about it.
My one-off cartoon of a fictional poster does not work well as a long-term plan. The vitriol this 'day' has brought out, of people who only want to draw obscene images,is offensive to the Muslims who did nothing to endanger our right to expression in the first place. Only Viacom and Revolution Muslim are to blame, so write to them instead!
I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off. Thank you to those who are turning this crazy thing into an opportunity for dialogue, education and solutions.
Sincerely,
Cartoonist Molly Norris"
Or that or she's alarmed at the intolerant nutjobs who jump at the slightest opportunity to insult Muslims and denigrate them.lowing wrote:
So she is taking the threats seriously, and is worried. What better evidence to prove a point than a cowering declaration such as this?ruisleipa wrote:
"I did not 'declare' May 20 to be "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." I made a cartoon about the television show South Park being censored.
The cartoon-poster, with a fake 'group' behind it, went viral and was taken seriously.I never started a facebook page; a stranger did and there is nothing I can do about it.
My one-off cartoon of a fictional poster does not work well as a long-term plan. The vitriol this 'day' has brought out, of people who only want to draw obscene images,is offensive to the Muslims who did nothing to endanger our right to expression in the first place. Only Viacom and Revolution Muslim are to blame, so write to them instead!
I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off. Thank you to those who are turning this crazy thing into an opportunity for dialogue, education and solutions.
Sincerely,
Cartoonist Molly Norris"
Always useful to have sentences that actually make sense...
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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
So, how many of us would head on over to guard her personally 24/7? I don't blame individuals for backing down in the face of ballistic ignorance. What I don't like corporate cowardice.lowing wrote:
So she is taking the threats seriously, and is worried. What better evidence to prove a point than a cowering declaration such as this?ruisleipa wrote:
"I did not 'declare' May 20 to be "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." I made a cartoon about the television show South Park being censored.
The cartoon-poster, with a fake 'group' behind it, went viral and was taken seriously.I never started a facebook page; a stranger did and there is nothing I can do about it.
My one-off cartoon of a fictional poster does not work well as a long-term plan. The vitriol this 'day' has brought out, of people who only want to draw obscene images,is offensive to the Muslims who did nothing to endanger our right to expression in the first place. Only Viacom and Revolution Muslim are to blame, so write to them instead!
I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off. Thank you to those who are turning this crazy thing into an opportunity for dialogue, education and solutions.
Sincerely,
Cartoonist Molly Norris"
lolSpark wrote:
Or that or she's alarmed at the intolerant nutjobs who the slightest opportunity to insult Muslims and denigrate them.
hmmm...tough call!
Freedom of speech is one of the most important foundations of western democracy ...
... with that said it doesn't mean you HAVE to use it just because you can, I can go all day calling all the people I meet a fucking douchebag and eventually I will meet someone that punches me in the face ... why would he do just that? ... I was only performing my right to say whatever the fuck the I want ...
... with that said it doesn't mean you HAVE to use it just because you can, I can go all day calling all the people I meet a fucking douchebag and eventually I will meet someone that punches me in the face ... why would he do just that? ... I was only performing my right to say whatever the fuck the I want ...
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You don't have to, but you can if you wish it.Varegg wrote:
Freedom of speech is one of the most important foundations of western democracy ...
... with that said it doesn't mean you HAVE to use it just because you can
yeah but being an antagonistic twat and claiming freedom of speech still makes an antagonistic twat innit...
Sure ... but as mentioned you also have to be prepared to get a smack in the face ...Cybargs wrote:
You don't have to, but you can if you wish it.Varegg wrote:
Freedom of speech is one of the most important foundations of western democracy ...
... with that said it doesn't mean you HAVE to use it just because you can
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In the case of extremists... It just proves the point of the cartoon.Varegg wrote:
Sure ... but as mentioned you also have to be prepared to get a smack in the face ...Cybargs wrote:
You don't have to, but you can if you wish it.Varegg wrote:
Freedom of speech is one of the most important foundations of western democracy ...
... with that said it doesn't mean you HAVE to use it just because you can
So if you walk up to a guy and says fuck you douchebag and he smacks you silly he is an extremist? ... or could it be that your action saying just that was an extremist act as well?Cybargs wrote:
In the case of extremists... It just proves the point of the cartoon.Varegg wrote:
Sure ... but as mentioned you also have to be prepared to get a smack in the face ...Cybargs wrote:
You don't have to, but you can if you wish it.
Ask yourself if drawing a cartoon of Mohammed is because you like to draw cartoons or if it is to cause riot amongst a religious group when you know in advance what the result will be ...
Ask yourself why you don't go around badmouthing people calling them names every day?
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Well if I go up to someone and call him a douchebag and he beats me and lands his ass in jail, it's kinda point proven. Sometimes people should just ignore shit thrown at them. I'm pretty sure everyone's been called a dick, cunt, douchebag etc loads of times.Varegg wrote:
So if you walk up to a guy and says fuck you douchebag and he smacks you silly he is an extremist? ... or could it be that your action saying just that was an extremist act as well?Cybargs wrote:
In the case of extremists... It just proves the point of the cartoon.Varegg wrote:
Sure ... but as mentioned you also have to be prepared to get a smack in the face ...
Ask yourself if drawing a cartoon of Mohammed is because you like to draw cartoons or if it is to cause riot amongst a religious group when you know in advance what the result will be ...
Ask yourself why you don't go around badmouthing people calling them names every day?
The cartoons were not random at all, and I do agree their purpose is to piss of muslims. Now who's worst, the instigators or the people who take shit so seriously that they have to put a hit on a fucking cartoon artist?
actually I think she was backing down to the experiences others have had when they trashed Islam.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
So, how many of us would head on over to guard her personally 24/7? I don't blame individuals for backing down in the face of ballistic ignorance. What I don't like corporate cowardice.lowing wrote:
So she is taking the threats seriously, and is worried. What better evidence to prove a point than a cowering declaration such as this?ruisleipa wrote:
"I did not 'declare' May 20 to be "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." I made a cartoon about the television show South Park being censored.
The cartoon-poster, with a fake 'group' behind it, went viral and was taken seriously.I never started a facebook page; a stranger did and there is nothing I can do about it.
My one-off cartoon of a fictional poster does not work well as a long-term plan. The vitriol this 'day' has brought out, of people who only want to draw obscene images,is offensive to the Muslims who did nothing to endanger our right to expression in the first place. Only Viacom and Revolution Muslim are to blame, so write to them instead!
I apologize to people of Muslim faith and ask that this 'day' be called off. Thank you to those who are turning this crazy thing into an opportunity for dialogue, education and solutions.
Sincerely,
Cartoonist Molly Norris"
It's not a matter of who's worst ... the cartoonist was an idiot and whoever threatens his life is an idiot ... I don't respect the behaviour of either two but I do respect both rights to act like idiots ...Cybargs wrote:
Well if I go up to someone and call him a douchebag and he beats me and lands his ass in jail, it's kinda point proven. Sometimes people should just ignore shit thrown at them. I'm pretty sure everyone's been called a dick, cunt, douchebag etc loads of times.Varegg wrote:
So if you walk up to a guy and says fuck you douchebag and he smacks you silly he is an extremist? ... or could it be that your action saying just that was an extremist act as well?Cybargs wrote:
In the case of extremists... It just proves the point of the cartoon.
Ask yourself if drawing a cartoon of Mohammed is because you like to draw cartoons or if it is to cause riot amongst a religious group when you know in advance what the result will be ...
Ask yourself why you don't go around badmouthing people calling them names every day?
The cartoons were not random at all, and I do agree their purpose is to piss of muslims. Now who's worst, the instigators or the people who take shit so seriously that they have to put a hit on a fucking cartoon artist?
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
Hmm... I don't especially respect anyone's right to make death threats.It's not a matter of who's worst ... the cartoonist was an idiot and whoever threatens his life is an idiot ... I don't respect the behaviour of either two but I do respect both rights to act like idiots ...
for fuck's sake what's with me and leaving out random words today
Last edited by Spark (2010-05-25 05:36:26)
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Putting a two million dollar hit on someone is a tad different then saying shit to someone's face.Varegg wrote:
It's not a matter of who's worst ... the cartoonist was an idiot and whoever threatens his life is an idiot ... I don't respect the behaviour of either two but I do respect both rights to act like idiots ...Cybargs wrote:
Well if I go up to someone and call him a douchebag and he beats me and lands his ass in jail, it's kinda point proven. Sometimes people should just ignore shit thrown at them. I'm pretty sure everyone's been called a dick, cunt, douchebag etc loads of times.Varegg wrote:
So if you walk up to a guy and says fuck you douchebag and he smacks you silly he is an extremist? ... or could it be that your action saying just that was an extremist act as well?
Ask yourself if drawing a cartoon of Mohammed is because you like to draw cartoons or if it is to cause riot amongst a religious group when you know in advance what the result will be ...
Ask yourself why you don't go around badmouthing people calling them names every day?
The cartoons were not random at all, and I do agree their purpose is to piss of muslims. Now who's worst, the instigators or the people who take shit so seriously that they have to put a hit on a fucking cartoon artist?
Agreed ... poorly formulated and a bad example by me ... point was as originally stated a few posts further up that even though you CAN you don't have to just to piss people off ... and this guy knew exactly what he was doing and thus will have to live in fear for the rest of life ... was that really worth it just to prove a point?Cybargs wrote:
Putting a two million dollar hit on someone is a tad different then saying shit to someone's face.Varegg wrote:
It's not a matter of who's worst ... the cartoonist was an idiot and whoever threatens his life is an idiot ... I don't respect the behaviour of either two but I do respect both rights to act like idiots ...Cybargs wrote:
Well if I go up to someone and call him a douchebag and he beats me and lands his ass in jail, it's kinda point proven. Sometimes people should just ignore shit thrown at them. I'm pretty sure everyone's been called a dick, cunt, douchebag etc loads of times.
The cartoons were not random at all, and I do agree their purpose is to piss of muslims. Now who's worst, the instigators or the people who take shit so seriously that they have to put a hit on a fucking cartoon artist?
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
If it means so much to that person, I'm sure he knows the risk and is willing to put up with extremist scumbags. Same could be said about artists around the world criticizing totalitarian governments or that journalist who got poisoned at a sushi bar in London.Varegg wrote:
Agreed ... poorly formulated and a bad example by me ... point was as originally stated a few posts further up that even though you CAN you don't have to just to piss people off ... and this guy knew exactly what he was doing and thus will have to live in fear for the rest of life ... was that really worth it just to prove a point?Cybargs wrote:
Putting a two million dollar hit on someone is a tad different then saying shit to someone's face.Varegg wrote:
It's not a matter of who's worst ... the cartoonist was an idiot and whoever threatens his life is an idiot ... I don't respect the behaviour of either two but I do respect both rights to act like idiots ...
They where fighting for way more than drawing cartoons tbh ...
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