oh ok. /facepalm
Your edit is correct. Every opinion pole I've seen has more than two-thirds in favor of Arizonia enforing existing Federal Laws.rawls2 wrote:
Arizona will suffer for this. It already is. Commerce will suffer and then they'll repeal the law. The truth is, I bet, that the majority of Americans are on the immigrants side. Arizona will end up looking like they did when they were finally forced to recognize a MLK holiday.
edit: Actually looks like the majority do approve of the bill. But still the ones that don't will over power those that do.
If people reaized how much of their taxes go to fund illegals probably more people would be for this.
Well, if they think that's bad, they should try immigrating to most of Europe.ruisleipa wrote:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18552_so-you-want-to-be-american-5-circles-immigration-hell.html
I did, and I have no problem with it now.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Read the bill. It's only 16 pages. It specifically prohibits racial profiling, and it is already federal law that they can check your papers.lowing wrote:
I agree, but man, there are millions of American citizens and legal immigrants that fit the profiling used to enforce this bill. I do not see any way around that. and the visons of a police state checking papers of people on the streets is not an attractive one.west-phoenix-az wrote:
It's true that I want less government, but one thing I expect from the government is border protection.
Turquoise wrote:
Well, if they think that's bad, they should try immigrating to most of Europe.ruisleipa wrote:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18552_so-you-want-to-be-american-5-circles-immigration-hell.html
Keeps the idiots out.11 Bravo wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Well, if they think that's bad, they should try immigrating to most of Europe.ruisleipa wrote:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18552_so-you-want-to-be-american-5-circles-immigration-hell.html
Pretty much... but that's exactly why we need stricter immigration controls.Cybargs wrote:
Keeps the idiots out.11 Bravo wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Well, if they think that's bad, they should try immigrating to most of Europe.
Granted, that will never happen -- plus, it's almost impossible to implement with a country as large as ours.
Seattle police preview future Arizona cop arrests.
All i can say is good luck because you gonna reap what you sow.
All i can say is good luck because you gonna reap what you sow.
Last edited by Stubbee (2010-05-16 21:17:11)
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
That happened in Washington State where the Arizona law isn't in affect yet. I mean you want to also put Rodney King video up here too? I don't think it matters what race there is, unfortunately there are bad apples in the police force and they'll do stupid shit like this.
Police brutality is wrong no matter who it's against.
I wonder though that Illegals will more likely run away from police once the law is in effect because now they might get deported instead of let go.
So does anyone really think if someone commits a crime and doesn't show ID that they should be let go as it it never happened?
So an illegal could speed on the road and not be accountable like you or me?
So an illegal could steal something from a store and not be accountable like your or me?
Why the protected status? Why should illegals have more rights than us Americans?
Police brutality is wrong no matter who it's against.
I wonder though that Illegals will more likely run away from police once the law is in effect because now they might get deported instead of let go.
So does anyone really think if someone commits a crime and doesn't show ID that they should be let go as it it never happened?
So an illegal could speed on the road and not be accountable like you or me?
So an illegal could steal something from a store and not be accountable like your or me?
Why the protected status? Why should illegals have more rights than us Americans?
It doesn't matter when the Seattle event happened.
my point is that the same scene is going to be repeated in Arizona in the near future, unless the courts rule against it.
my point is that the same scene is going to be repeated in Arizona in the near future, unless the courts rule against it.
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
California Penal Code 834b:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisg … n=retrieve
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisg … n=retrieve
834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully
cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization
Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is
suspected of being present in the United States in violation of
federal immigration laws.
(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected
of being present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the
following:
(1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen
of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent
resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time
or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of
immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not
be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and
place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding
documentation to indicate his or her legal status.
(2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien
who is present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal
justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or
leave the United States.
(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United
States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal
status and provide any additional information that may be requested
by any other public entity.
(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city,
county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with
jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent
or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly
prohibited.
Last edited by west-phoenix-az (2010-05-17 10:50:22)
cali towns are boycotting arizona? guess what cali, you get 1/3 of your electricity from them so.....have fun.
simple enough....go back to mexico.
A couple videos worth watching:
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html (total time 3:06)
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html (total time 3:52)
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html (total time 3:06)
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html (total time 3:52)
Speaking of profiling, the anti-Arizona immigration law people have basically profiled cops as dumb and racist.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
And the other 2/3 from us11 Bravo wrote:
cali towns are boycotting arizona? guess what cali, you get 1/3 of your electricity from them so.....have fun.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Not likely. I've been to the coast of California. .. and I've seen them drilling offshore.
BTW, your beaches suck in comparison.
inb4tarballs
BTW, your beaches suck in comparison.
inb4tarballs
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Kmar, tarballs should be your mod note.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
nah, I doubt we'll see any here. Keys, maybe.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
lol yep11 Bravo wrote:
cali towns are boycotting arizona? guess what cali, you get 1/3 of your electricity from them so.....have fun.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station Ownership:
Arizona Public Svc (APS) = 29.10%
Salt River Project (SRP) = 17.49%
Southern California Edison Company = 15.80%
El Paso Electric Co = 15.80%
Public Service Co. of New Mexico = 10.20%
City of Los Angeles = 8.70%
Southern California Public Power Auth = 5.91%
TOTAL = 103%
Arizona Public Svc (APS) = 29.10%
Salt River Project (SRP) = 17.49%
Southern California Edison Company = 15.80%
El Paso Electric Co = 15.80%
Public Service Co. of New Mexico = 10.20%
City of Los Angeles = 8.70%
Southern California Public Power Auth = 5.91%
TOTAL = 103%
Makes sensewest-phoenix-az wrote:
Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station Ownership:
Arizona Public Svc (APS) = 29.10%
Salt River Project (SRP) = 17.49%
Southern California Edison Company = 15.80%
El Paso Electric Co = 15.80%
Public Service Co. of New Mexico = 10.20%
City of Los Angeles = 8.70%
Southern California Public Power Auth = 5.91%
TOTAL = 103%
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Haven't read the entire thread but, has anyone here that is screaming racism, and boycotting AZ admitted that they understand that this law is already a federal law.
This means that not one more piece of ID is required to be carried than federal law already demands, and the cops are required to investigate suspected criminal activity, and as we all know boys and girls entering a country ( any country) is a criminal act. this means if you do not have any ID on when you are pulled over or for any unrelated incident, there is reasonable suspecion to investigate further. No big deal. Not racism aNnd no reason to boycott AZ any more than you would boycott the USA.
This means that not one more piece of ID is required to be carried than federal law already demands, and the cops are required to investigate suspected criminal activity, and as we all know boys and girls entering a country ( any country) is a criminal act. this means if you do not have any ID on when you are pulled over or for any unrelated incident, there is reasonable suspecion to investigate further. No big deal. Not racism aNnd no reason to boycott AZ any more than you would boycott the USA.
The irony of it is, over 1/3 of the Arizona's population consider themselves "Latino". A huge percentage of the police force is Latino.Kmarion wrote:
Speaking of profiling, the anti-Arizona immigration law people have basically profiled cops as dumb and racist.