Dilbert_X
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JG wrote:

Yes, do you know anything you haven't wikipedia'd?
Don't need to really, I just need to know you're routinely wrong about a subject you claim to be expert in.
You could at least check things before you state them, that would be smart though....

I do however know the ECB doesn't target a USD exchange rate and never has.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-05-14 06:16:05)

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Dilbert_X wrote:

JG wrote:

Yes, do you know anything you haven't wikipedia'd?
Don't need to really, I just need to know you're routinely wrong about a subject you claim to be expert in.
You could at least check things before you state them, that would be smart though....

I do however know the ECB doesn't target a USD exchange rate and never has.
I never said it did. I said that it wanted to maintain it's strength. I never said there was a pegged value they were trying to maintain.

I'm done talking to you dilbert. I won't let you troll me like you do to lowing and others.
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Dilbert_X
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JG wrote:

I never said there was a pegged value they were trying to maintain.
V

JG wrote:

The ECB has made it it's goal to maintain a value well above the Dollar for the Euro.
You're wrong, and you can't even admit it.
The only reason you're 'done' is because you've made a complete ass of yourself.
Bet you'll delete this thread like a pussy.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-05-14 06:22:04)

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Dilbert_X wrote:

JG wrote:

I never said there was a pegged value they were trying to maintain.
V

JG wrote:

The ECB has made it it's goal to maintain a value well above the Dollar for the Euro.
You're wrong, and you can't even admit it.
The only reason you're 'done' is because you've made a complete ass of yourself.
Bet you'll delete this thread like a pussy.
Why would I delete the thread? You do understand the difference between stated goals and unstated yes? Maintaining the Euro at or above the $1.30 mark is very significant psychologically for not only the ECB but currency traders as well. I know you're an uncompetitive person but you do understand the concept of competition, right? It's a matter of pride.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JG wrote:

I never said there was a pegged value they were trying to maintain.
V

JG wrote:

The ECB has made it it's goal to maintain a value well above the Dollar for the Euro.
You're wrong, and you can't even admit it.
The only reason you're 'done' is because you've made a complete ass of yourself.
Bet you'll delete this thread like a pussy.
Why would I delete the thread? You do understand the difference between stated goals and unstated yes? Maintaining the Euro at or above the $1.30 mark is very significant psychologically for not only the ECB but currency traders as well. I know you're an uncompetitive person but you do understand the concept of competition, right? It's a matter of pride.
Where did you get the $1.30 figure from?

For an 'uncompetitive person' I'm way ahead of you pal.
And as has already been pointed out, having an uncompetitive currency is not a matter of pride.
A strong currency is not always an advantage - google 'China currency peg US dollar'.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JG wrote:

I never said there was a pegged value they were trying to maintain.
V

You're wrong, and you can't even admit it.
The only reason you're 'done' is because you've made a complete ass of yourself.
Bet you'll delete this thread like a pussy.
Why would I delete the thread? You do understand the difference between stated goals and unstated yes? Maintaining the Euro at or above the $1.30 mark is very significant psychologically for not only the ECB but currency traders as well. I know you're an uncompetitive person but you do understand the concept of competition, right? It's a matter of pride.
Where did you get the $1.30 figure from?

For an 'uncompetitive person' I'm way ahead of you pal.
And as has already been pointed out, having an uncompetitive currency is not a matter of pride.
A strong currency is not always an advantage - google 'China currency peg US dollar'.
Depends on import/export economy.

China wants to keep the yuan weak to keep exports high. EU on the otherhand... is more of an import economy tbh, besides the auto industry and textiles, I do not believe Europe as a whole exports a lot of things =/
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Which is why they need to devalue the Euro, or at least let it float so imports don't get too high.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JG wrote:

I never said there was a pegged value they were trying to maintain.
V

You're wrong, and you can't even admit it.
The only reason you're 'done' is because you've made a complete ass of yourself.
Bet you'll delete this thread like a pussy.
Why would I delete the thread? You do understand the difference between stated goals and unstated yes? Maintaining the Euro at or above the $1.30 mark is very significant psychologically for not only the ECB but currency traders as well. I know you're an uncompetitive person but you do understand the concept of competition, right? It's a matter of pride.
Where did you get the $1.30 figure from?

For an 'uncompetitive person' I'm way ahead of you pal.
And as has already been pointed out, having an uncompetitive currency is not a matter of pride.
A strong currency is not always an advantage - google 'China currency peg US dollar'.
EUR/USD Collapses Below 1.30

The EUR/USD has extended yesterday's selloff, collapsing below 1.30 as negative psychological forces strike the Euro. If there were alarm bells, they would be ringing right about now. A perfect combination of events has now given investors ample reason to dump the EUR/USD after weathering headwinds from Greece for so long. Speaking of Greece, fresh austerity program protests have turned violent, casting the feasibility of implementing these measures in a pale light. Yesterday rumors circulated that Spain will need over 200 billion Euros to shore up its own finances. However, we stress that this news is purely speculative, yet significant damage has been done anyways. To make matters worse, Moody's announced today that it is reviewing Portugal for a possible downgrade. The triple whammy has ratcheted up conversations of contagion and the fact that all eyes are on the EU doesn't help matters much. In fact, the IMF president announced that the risk for contagion is considerable. So there you have it, a perfect storm of psychological forces have left the Euro at the mercy of fear. One needs to look no further than the EUR/GBP to gain an understanding of the extent of the Euro's relative weakness at the moment. The fiscal crisis, if we may call it a crisis now, has finally bled into equity markets and the S&P futures look set to open today's session lower again. Meanwhile, the U.S. advance non-farm payrolls number finally turned positive, coming in a bit stronger than expected along with an upward revision for the previous release. This gives investors even more incentive to rush to the dollar amid uncertainty, placing further downward pressure on the EUR/USD. The EU will light up the news wire again tomorrow with an ECB meeting on tap. Although it is highly unlikely that Trichet & Co. will tighten considering the circumstances, the ECB could try to calm the fire and allow the EUR/USD to settle. The UK will also have its parliamentary election tomorrow, meaning the FX markets should be in for an active 24-48 hours.

Technically speaking, the EUR/USD is now trying to stabilize along its psychological 1.28 level with key March 2009 lows not so far away. Although the EUR/USD gave up on 1.30 very quickly, if politicians can manage to calm the markets then the currency pair may be inclined to hover back towards 1.30 over the near-term due to its psychological significance. As for the topside, the EUR/USD faces a marathon of downtrend lines along with intraday highs and the psychological 1.29 and 1.30 levels.
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So its a psychological figure in the minds of some traders and analysts, not a central plank of ECB strategy.
Keep digging, might see your head pop up here soon
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Which is why they need to devalue the Euro, or at least let it float so imports don't get too high.
Why? Services are much more significant than industrial plants. Insignificant overhead, lower ramp up time for newly developed products, mobility etc. Factories had their place, and still do in places where the labor is cheap. They're inconsequential in developed countries where we've turned ourselves into the middlemen of the world.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So its a psychological figure in the minds of some traders and analysts, not a central plank of ECB strategy.
Keep digging, might see your head pop up here soon
They're all connected. Why did the ECB bail out Greece last week? To placate traders who saw risk in Greece's bonds and drove the price of derivatives (insurance against default) through the roof. You can scoff all you want but it's the traders that keep our economies running.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Dilbert_X
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

So its a psychological figure in the minds of some traders and analysts, not a central plank of ECB strategy.
Keep digging, might see your head pop up here soon
They're all connected. Why did the ECB bail out Greece last week?
Because for political reasons they don't want Greece falling out of the Euro.

If your theory on the Euro-USD rate were right then Greece should have been kicked out, not propped up - which had the effect of causing the Euro to drop in value.
With Greece gone the Euro would most likely have gone up and Germans would have paid less for their summer holidays.

You can scoff all you want but it's the traders that keep our economies running.
Not really.

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JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Which is why they need to devalue the Euro, or at least let it float so imports don't get too high.
Why? Services are much more significant than industrial plants. Insignificant overhead, lower ramp up time for newly developed products, mobility etc. Factories had their place, and still do in places where the labor is cheap. They're inconsequential in developed countries where we've turned ourselves into the middlemen of the world.
Heard of India?
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JohnG@lt wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Europe is doing fine, it's just Greece that's having problems.
Yes, but the ECB made it a problem for the rest of you by making you subsidize their debt.
Not really. Not for me. ECB only applies to Eurozone countries. Britains commitment to supporting the Euro is negligible at most.

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Which is why they need to devalue the Euro, or at least let it float so imports don't get too high.
Why? Services are much more significant than industrial plants. Insignificant overhead, lower ramp up time for newly developed products, mobility etc. Factories had their place, and still do in places where the labor is cheap. They're inconsequential in developed countries where we've turned ourselves into the middlemen of the world.
Heard of India?
Why do you ask that?

Isn't much of India's growth based on the service industry? All the offshore IT support, call centres etc.
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India has taken a huge slice of the European service industry, thanks to their cheap labour costs.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

China has taken a huge slice of the American service industry, thanks to their cheap labour costs.
Fixed for accuracy.
Dilbert_X
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So the service industry argument is BS, thats the point.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So the service industry argument is BS, thats the point.
No.

Quite the opposite...

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