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2010-05-13 05:21:29
ruisleipa
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lowing wrote:

No, protesting against a police force whose members are not  breaking the law any where near to the extent that criminals are, is just fucking stupid.

There is no indications  anywhere that have been produced to suggest there is a greater problem with the police than with the criminal element. Your attentions are turned in the wrong direction.
Is it safe to assume then, since you suspect the police more han you suspect a criminal, that you will call a criminal to your house when you are in trouble instead of the police?
lol I'm not protesting anyything. My attentions are merely and vaguely towards this thread viz. you moaning about something that is totally understandable. If there's a chance cops break the law then why not observe them? You're saying that no-one should care if cops break the law and everyone should trust them implicitly? I don't buy it. There are thousands of documented cases of cops breaking the law (and surely thousands more undocumented) to support my cynicism.

Your last sentence is so ridiculous it's not worth commenting on.
2010-05-13 06:01:47
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

ruisleipa wrote:

lowing wrote:

No, protesting against a police force whose members are not  breaking the law any where near to the extent that criminals are, is just fucking stupid.

There is no indications  anywhere that have been produced to suggest there is a greater problem with the police than with the criminal element. Your attentions are turned in the wrong direction.
Is it safe to assume then, since you suspect the police more han you suspect a criminal, that you will call a criminal to your house when you are in trouble instead of the police?
lol I'm not protesting anyything. My attentions are merely and vaguely towards this thread viz. you moaning about something that is totally understandable. If there's a chance cops break the law then why not observe them? You're saying that no-one should care if cops break the law and everyone should trust them implicitly? I don't buy it. There are thousands of documented cases of cops breaking the law (and surely thousands more undocumented) to support my cynicism.

Your last sentence is so ridiculous it's not worth commenting on.
Never said there were no bad cops........but to film the cops instend of the criminals suggests they are more worried aboutthe cops than the criminal element. When I said you I was speaking generally. YOU sohuld know long by now, than YOU make little difference in my opinions.


As for my last sentence. Why? If these peopel are so worried about hte cops MORE than they are the criminal; element, why would they trust a cop to come out and protect them? After all, there are countless cases of police abuse right. I assume they feel the odds are they will get a bad cop showing up..Best not to call them at all then if they feel that way
2010-05-13 06:06:59
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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So if every cop knows they could be being filmed they might stick to doing their jobs.

From my direct experience I'm FAR more worried about corrupt cops than criminals.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-05-13 06:13:22)

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2010-05-13 06:08:28
ruisleipa
Member
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lowing wrote:

Never said there were no bad cops........but to film the cops instend of the criminals suggests they are more worried aboutthe cops than the criminal element.

As for my last sentence. Why? If these peopel are so worried about hte cops MORE than they are the criminal; element, why would they trust a cop to come out and protect them? After all, there are countless cases of police abuse right. I assume they feel the odds are they will get a bad cop showing up..Best not to call them at all then if they feel that way
as usual yuou take it to ridiculous extremes. We KNOW who the cops are, we DON'T know who the criminals are until they commit crimes. There are already lots of people watching out for criminals. There are not many watching the cops or authority. So why the hell shouldn't they watch them?

They're not MORE worried about cops but they are concerned that the new laws give rise to a greater possibility that the cops could commit illegal acts. Are you seriously suggesting that no-one should be concerned that the police might commit illegal acts? Seriously? So you don't think there should be any police departments responsible for ensuring that the police follow the law, since those resources should be put towards catching 'criminals'?

Also you seem to be totally ignoring the fact that SOME COPS ARE CRIMINALS, so how do you suggest they get caught then?

Your ridiculous troll assumptions, one example of which you give above, are why the vast majority of your arguments are absolute nonsense.
2010-05-13 06:24:15
unnamednewbie13
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2010-05-13 06:51:37
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

ruisleipa wrote:

lowing wrote:

Never said there were no bad cops........but to film the cops instend of the criminals suggests they are more worried aboutthe cops than the criminal element.

As for my last sentence. Why? If these peopel are so worried about hte cops MORE than they are the criminal; element, why would they trust a cop to come out and protect them? After all, there are countless cases of police abuse right. I assume they feel the odds are they will get a bad cop showing up..Best not to call them at all then if they feel that way
as usual yuou take it to ridiculous extremes. We KNOW who the cops are, we DON'T know who the criminals are until they commit crimes. There are already lots of people watching out for criminals. There are not many watching the cops or authority. So why the hell shouldn't they watch them?

They're not MORE worried about cops but they are concerned that the new laws give rise to a greater possibility that the cops could commit illegal acts. Are you seriously suggesting that no-one should be concerned that the police might commit illegal acts? Seriously? So you don't think there should be any police departments responsible for ensuring that the police follow the law, since those resources should be put towards catching 'criminals'?

Also you seem to be totally ignoring the fact that SOME COPS ARE CRIMINALS, so how do you suggest they get caught then?

Your ridiculous troll assumptions, one example of which you give above, are why the vast majority of your arguments are absolute nonsense.
Bottom line, if you want to help your community, help the police. filming their every move hoping to catch them doing something and turning them in, does not do them any good, and it does not do the community any good.

Their are worse crimes committed by bad cops than racially profiling an illegal immigrant. They are not concerned about real criminal activity like a cop drug dealing, or a cop run prostitution ring. They want to catch a cop racially profiling. So get over your bullshit about concerned citizens. They are trying to find laws suits for quit money. Period.
2010-05-13 07:15:11
ruisleipa
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lowing wrote:

Bottom line, if you want to help your community, help the police. filming their every move hoping to catch them doing something and turning them in, does not do them any good, and it does not do the community any good.

Their are worse crimes committed by bad cops than racially profiling an illegal immigrant. They are not concerned about real criminal activity like a cop drug dealing, or a cop run prostitution ring. They want to catch a cop racially profiling. So get over your bullshit about concerned citizens. They are trying to find laws suits for quit money. Period.
If it stops a cop from breaking the law it does good. What's the problem? People spend their time doing loads of pointless shite. This is a less pointless activity than a million others.

Bottom line, cops should be aware that they can get punished for breaking the law as well as everyone else. Cops are still ONLY citizens, like everyone else.

You don't know these people. You're basing your daft assumptions on one newspaper article. The regular generalisations and assumptions based on preconceived notions of others with no or limited personal experience to base that on. I never said anything about concerned citizens (although they may well be - and good on them), I'm merely saying that what they're doing isn't bad and doesn't harm the community, and may benefit it. Just because you think eveyrone does things for lawsuits certainly doesn't mean that is the case.

Maybe the reason they don't go after drug dealing cops is that it's a fuckload easier to watch them for doing illegal stuff this way than instigating a major investigation into drug dealing cops...lol.

You never addressed my questions in the previous post re internal affairs departments etc.
2010-05-13 07:19:19
11 Bravo
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why doesnt everyone just watch everybody then, ruis?
2010-05-13 07:20:50
ruisleipa
Member
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11 Bravo wrote:

why doesnt everyone just watch everybody then, ruis?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhood_watch

?
2010-05-13 07:23:11
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5523|Cleveland, Ohio

ruisleipa wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

why doesnt everyone just watch everybody then, ruis?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhood_watch

?
not every place has that.

no i mean being able to see peoples computes so they are not looking at child porn.  film thru my neighbors windows to make sure they arent doing illegal drugs.  walk thru any business to make sure they are following osha policies.  etc etc etc
2010-05-13 07:30:41
ruisleipa
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11 Bravo wrote:

no i mean being able to see peoples computes so they are not looking at child porn.  film thru my neighbors windows to make sure they arent doing illegal drugs.  walk thru any business to make sure they are following osha policies.  etc etc etc
well, because most people don't know the law for a start. and there's a trade off between, amongst other things, privacy to be taken into account. plus most crimes have fuck all to do with anyone else do they? what do you care if I smoke a reefer?
2010-05-13 07:33:43
11 Bravo
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ruisleipa wrote:

what do you care if I smoke a reefer?
its against the law here.  and it leads to crime because of it.  i am fearful for my life because my neighbor smokes pot.
2010-05-13 07:35:08
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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So your neighbour is a criminal, you're free to strangle him.
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2010-05-13 07:36:48
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5464|Sydney

11 Bravo wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

what do you care if I smoke a reefer?
its against the law here.  and it leads to crime because of it.  i am fearful for my life because my neighbor smokes pot.
And they reckon smoking pot makes people paranoid.
2010-05-13 07:36:54
11 Bravo
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So your neighbour is a criminal, you're free to strangle him.
no but i am going to constantly film him.

i am going to constantly film you at work to make sure you are following every law and procedure also.  everyone should do that.
2010-05-13 07:37:56
11 Bravo
Banned
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Jaekus wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

what do you care if I smoke a reefer?
its against the law here.  and it leads to crime because of it.  i am fearful for my life because my neighbor smokes pot.
And they reckon smoking pot makes people paranoid.
i wasnt being serious...just.  shit dude put down the wine.
2010-05-13 07:39:03
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6391|eXtreme to the maX

11 Bravo wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

So your neighbour is a criminal, you're free to strangle him.
no but i am going to constantly film him.

i am going to constantly film you at work to make sure you are following every law and procedure also.  everyone should do that.
You do that, you'll get bored quickly, but since I'm not a public servant its not going to happen.
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2010-05-13 08:49:45
ruisleipa
Member
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11 Bravo wrote:

its against the law here.  and it leads to crime because of it.  i am fearful for my life because my neighbor smokes pot.
lol

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/ReeferMadnessPoster.jpg
2010-05-13 08:52:10
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5523|Cleveland, Ohio

ruisleipa wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

its against the law here.  and it leads to crime because of it.  i am fearful for my life because my neighbor smokes pot.
lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … Poster.jpg
i dont think that bro, read above ffs.
2010-05-13 08:53:39
ruisleipa
Member
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11 Bravo wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

its against the law here.  and it leads to crime because of it.  i am fearful for my life because my neighbor smokes pot.
lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … Poster.jpg
i dont think that bro, read above ffs.
no I know holmes, I was just lol'ing in a kinda 'I got the joke' way And the poster fit...no probs
2010-05-13 08:56:20
lowing
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ruisleipa wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bottom line, if you want to help your community, help the police. filming their every move hoping to catch them doing something and turning them in, does not do them any good, and it does not do the community any good.

Their are worse crimes committed by bad cops than racially profiling an illegal immigrant. They are not concerned about real criminal activity like a cop drug dealing, or a cop run prostitution ring. They want to catch a cop racially profiling. So get over your bullshit about concerned citizens. They are trying to find laws suits for quit money. Period.
If it stops a cop from breaking the law it does good. What's the problem? People spend their time doing loads of pointless shite. This is a less pointless activity than a million others.

Bottom line, cops should be aware that they can get punished for breaking the law as well as everyone else. Cops are still ONLY citizens, like everyone else.

You don't know these people. You're basing your daft assumptions on one newspaper article. The regular generalisations and assumptions based on preconceived notions of others with no or limited personal experience to base that on. I never said anything about concerned citizens (although they may well be - and good on them), I'm merely saying that what they're doing isn't bad and doesn't harm the community, and may benefit it. Just because you think eveyrone does things for lawsuits certainly doesn't mean that is the case.

Maybe the reason they don't go after drug dealing cops is that it's a fuckload easier to watch them for doing illegal stuff this way than instigating a major investigation into drug dealing cops...lol.

You never addressed my questions in the previous post re internal affairs departments etc.
they are looking for a quick buck, they have no interest in the law, being good citizens or improving their nieghborhoods. So lets just call it like it is shall we?

What about internal affairs? That is a section of the police force that is legit and deals with real issues regarding bad cops, in an attempt to make a community better.I am all for it.

Bit for some jack-off to try and film a cop racially profiling so they can sue is bullshit.
2010-05-13 08:57:38
lowing
Banned
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So your neighbour is a criminal, you're free to strangle him.
sure if he fucks with you and you can get your hands around his scrawny neck. I will applaud the effort.
2010-05-13 10:15:52
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6508|teh FIN-land

lowing wrote:

they are looking for a quick buck, they have no interest in the law, being good citizens or improving their nieghborhoods.
oh and you know this how? Oh that's right, you don't know, you're just making shit up to fit your own narrow view of the world. well done.

:slowhandclap:
2010-05-13 10:36:46
LostFate
Same shit, Different Arsehole
+95|6771|England

lowing wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

Protesting against people who are concerned about police breaking the law is just fucking stupid.
No, protesting against a police force whose members are not  breaking the law any where near to the extent that criminals are, is just fucking stupid.

There is no indications  anywhere that have been produced to suggest there is a greater problem with the police than with the criminal element. Your attentions are turned in the wrong direction.
Is it safe to assume then, since you suspect the police more han you suspect a criminal, that you will call a criminal to your house when you are in trouble instead of the police?
if people don't look for police breaking the rules how would they ever get caught since they are the law?
2010-05-13 10:41:52
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6953

eleven bravo wrote:

by the way, my MOS's (I had two) only qualified me to kill people and pick up cigarette butts and fuck with peoples minds.  Not much I could use in the civilian sector.
CIA is hiring.

 

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